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Post by faggotygas on Jul 17, 2017 11:10:02 GMT
Please move mods. Couldn't give a f**k who plays vs us in a friendly. There's no rule about posts being interesting
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Post by faggotygas on Jul 13, 2017 16:29:21 GMT
Reminded me of Joe Kuffour. Lots of ability, but wasn't really a striker, or a winger, or a midfielder. Hard to know what to do with him.
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Post by faggotygas on Jul 13, 2017 11:15:42 GMT
I can't see them doing that. It takes them turnstile operators long enough as it is to clear through all the people that turn up at the last minute. The only proper way of getting around that is to have a digital card style season ticket which flashes up a picture of the season ticket owners face to the operator when the barcode or chip is scanned. I'm sure it wouldn't be popular though. Occasionally when I can't attend I give mine to my mother who otherwise wouldn't be able to afford to go and that not only makes a paid for ticket go to waste but it stops people in a financially difficult situation from seeing the team we all love. I wouldn't be too keen on having my details and accompanying picture on file like that either. Wouldn't need to be as complicated as that with a digital system, duplicate issues would have the same ticket number so the system would just check if the same ticket number has been used before for that game.
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Post by faggotygas on Jul 11, 2017 11:03:26 GMT
Very good, but did this really deserve a shouted subject?
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Post by faggotygas on Jul 6, 2017 12:19:40 GMT
£25k is ridiculous money. Bare in mind we brought Sinclair in on about £700 pw initially, and even now he's probably still on about £2k. We made Taylor our top earner on what I'm guessing would be about £5k. We'd be talking like two thirds (if not all) of our budget on one player, who yes was superb for us, but is in his mid thirties. He's the exact opposite of everything DC is trying to build. If he goes to Plymouth or Blackburn, good luck to him, but for me he's not worth that wage or financial gamble. Totall, he's not worth 5 good strikers
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 27, 2017 11:04:16 GMT
When people get the idea that they do not have to work as hard because the other half is going to take care of them (make up the shortfall), and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work hard for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation. Socialist idealogy is a fantastic dream, but sadly as proved over many many attempts just doesn't work. Undoubtably.
But on the other side of the coin, having no fall-back position stifles innovation, and leads to social issues. There is a balance to be had.
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 26, 2017 8:53:54 GMT
Over a never ending period if monetary policy is not allowed to tighten. With the house price inflation we've seen over the last few years, compared to interest on cash savings, you need to be increasing the amount you have put aside for a deposit by 8-9% a year just to stay still.
Surely its clear that if people are having to borrow money to pay for their kids houses, the market is unsustainable? Borrowing money to borrow more money to chase price rises, that's a bubble. We will end up with very expensive houses that can't be sold as few can afford to buy. This can only result in an almighty crash, as confidence in valuation evaporates.
We need controlled monetary policy tightening (higher interest rates)to bring asset price inflation back to sustainable levels, but with weak business investment levels we can only get that (without causing a recession) through managed fiscal loosening. This will also give us somewhere to go should brexit cause an inflation shock, which I think is pretty likely. I don't understand why others cannot see this.
Correct. However I would define fiscal loosening as increased government spending on houses. Build 200,000 Homes a year for 5 years, does a couple of things. Brings downward pressure on house prices, creates employment and release capital for business investment rather than mortgages. Unless you vote Tory of course, where government intervention is an anathema Couldn't agree more, although any injection of wage inflation will help balance things out.
We aren't the only ones saying this, I've been to talks with various economists (and Andrew Neil of all people) over the last year where this was strongly advocated as a sensible intervention in a broken market. The only thing holding it back is ideology.
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 26, 2017 7:33:37 GMT
will your savings account be sufficient to allow for continued 10%+ house price inflation? 10%+ over what period? If there are shortfalls I can take money from my house. I will still have time to work. Putting a little bit aside for the kids makes sense surely. Even if it's to pay for driving lessons. Those lessons may open up employment opportunities. Over a never ending period if monetary policy is not allowed to tighten. With the house price inflation we've seen over the last few years, compared to interest on cash savings, you need to be increasing the amount you have put aside for a deposit by 8-9% a year just to stay still.
Surely its clear that if people are having to borrow money to pay for their kids houses, the market is unsustainable? Borrowing money to borrow more money to chase price rises, that's a bubble. We will end up with very expensive houses that can't be sold as few can afford to buy. This can only result in an almighty crash, as confidence in valuation evaporates.
We need controlled monetary policy tightening (higher interest rates)to bring asset price inflation back to sustainable levels, but with weak business investment levels we can only get that (without causing a recession) through managed fiscal loosening. This will also give us somewhere to go should brexit cause an inflation shock, which I think is pretty likely. I don't understand why others cannot see this.
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 25, 2017 22:22:32 GMT
War is just another example of government spending on large scale projects and government intervention in markets improving the economy. Discuss! Can hardly say government intervention ,more like world then jap intervention . Of course the reality is we will never know but can speculate as if im correct din't fdr's first attempt fail ,then the war came along and it succeeded. Not trying to trivialise world war but it's one of the few things that guarantees very high employment and results in more people spending ,as they don't know if tomorrow will ever come Anyway, I've realised that I've been side tracked. My problem with current economic policy is that we have anti inflationary fiscal policy with inflationary monetary policy, in an environment (brexit) that is likely to be inflationary, but probably in a highly unbalanced way. That makes me think that we have real problems ahead.
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 25, 2017 22:00:34 GMT
If your prepared to accept a private health service,massive debt by goin to univerity,zero hours contracts,massive class sizes for working class people and no chance of getting on the housing ladder for your children and grandchildren then stick with old etonians but young people are rising up against such things. Maybe you dont have kids and have a good job and maybe inheritence so it dosnt affect you? But thank god young people are waking up and realising they can change things for the better., Zero hours contracts are very useful for lots of people. My children will get on the housing ladder as I have saved for them since birth and am working hard to pay my own mortgage. The University thing is pie in the sky! will your savings account be sufficient to allow for continued 10%+ house price inflation?
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 25, 2017 21:57:05 GMT
War is just another example of government spending on large scale projects and government intervention in markets improving the economy. Discuss! Can hardly say government intervention ,more like world then jap intervention . Of course the reality is we will never know but can speculate as if im correct din't fdr's first attempt fail ,then the war came along and it succeeded. Not trying to trivialise world war but it's one of the few things that guarantees very high employment and results in more people spending ,as they don't know if tomorrow will ever come What mean is, when push comes to shove even the great freedom loving US resorted to central control and massive government intervention to maximize productivity. The UK has a big productivity issue.
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 23, 2017 15:44:13 GMT
that chart is interesting as it corresponds with what i believe and that is youngsters will vote labour as they believe they will be better off for less effort ,however once they get a bit older the realise the lie and change sides to keep more of what they earn . As for prawns they are carved from the devils arse grapes and people who eat them should be forced to watch the teds every week Well, that's one interpretation of the data.
Perhaps the young are just more in need of hope? Which only one party was selling.
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 23, 2017 15:42:52 GMT
On the other hand what would have happened if he hadn't repealed prohibition and the war never happened ,a lot of money came in to the us from countries buying arms and munitions from the us That is one of the great unanswered questions. Did LBJ's reforms really end the Great Depression, or was it WW2? We'll never know for sure. War is just another example of government spending on large scale projects and government intervention in markets improving the economy. Discuss!
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 23, 2017 10:02:31 GMT
I know what you are saying, but I can't agree. Your idea that all Tory voters are part of the prawn sandwich brigade is way off the mark. There has always been working class tory voters.
A lot of my friends are from working class backgrounds, as am I, and a lot of my friends are Tory voters. They worry about their jobs, their safety, and protection of their way of life. They are essentially change adverse, and instinctively see Labour as radical and risky, and the Tories as safe. They don't trust Labour to handle the economy, or be strong enough on security and immigration. This must be due to the right wing bias of the working class media, who deliberately generate fear in people - and when people are afraid, they tend to edge to the right.
However, a highly media savvy, centre ground party won a lot of these people over in the late 90s.
Im aware that my post was very simplistic,a lot of tory voters hate prawns for a start! I can't accept that anybody hates prawns.
There's an interesting breakdown on how people voted in the GE here: yougov.co.uk/news/2017/06/13/how-britain-voted-2017-general-election/
"As noted at the start of the campaign, the class divide in British politics seems to have closed and it is no longer a very good indicator of voting intention."
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 23, 2017 9:06:40 GMT
Ive never bothered with general chat or political stuff on here before. But what an eye opener!! as a child i stood on the terraces with my dad,all working people who stood for working values and were all strong trade union supporters and of course labour party voters. How times have changed and how football crowds have moved from ordinary working class people to the rather precious prawn sandwich brigade that now frequent our terraces and actually support the upper class eton toffs that look down on all but the wealthy elite. No wonder so many on here are desperate for a new ground so they can sit in there £500 a season seat and thank there lucky stars that no working class scum are anywhere to be seen. At chelsea i couldnt quite work out what had happened to chelsea fans but now i get it and its happening at bristol rovers. Very very sad I know what you are saying, but I can't agree. Your idea that all Tory voters are part of the prawn sandwich brigade is way off the mark. There has always been working class tory voters.
A lot of my friends are from working class backgrounds, as am I, and a lot of my friends are Tory voters. They worry about their jobs, their safety, and protection of their way of life. They are essentially change adverse, and instinctively see Labour as radical and risky, and the Tories as safe. They don't trust Labour to handle the economy, or be strong enough on security and immigration. This must be due to the right wing bias of the working class media, who deliberately generate fear in people - and when people are afraid, they tend to edge to the right.
However, a highly media savvy, centre ground party won a lot of these people over in the late 90s.
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 22, 2017 21:46:58 GMT
QE does not increase government spending. The Chief Secretary to the Treasury did in fact leave a note when Labour were kicked out. I do believe it said something like, "Sorry, but we've spent all the money. There is nothing left".......or words to that effect. You have to stop issuing debt at some point. Are you aware that at the moment, the interest alone that we pay on our current debt is more than we spend on Defence and Education combined! BTW, interest payments are not excessive. Historically, as a percentage of overall spending, they are rather low. fullfact.org/economy/interest-payments-national-debt/
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 22, 2017 21:24:37 GMT
No, more like what FDR did to end the Great Depression But we are not in a 'Great Depression' ? Not my point. There's nothing wrong with government intervention when the clear flaws in capitalism raise thier heads. It's happened here, in the US a number of times (Standard Oil, AT&T) , and the New Deal was similarly an attempt to redress an equality imbalance following austerity. Just as now. Even Adam Smith recognised the need.
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 22, 2017 21:18:36 GMT
QE does not increase government spending. The Chief Secretary to the Treasury did in fact leave a note when Labour were kicked out. I do believe it said something like, "Sorry, but we've spent all the money. There is nothing left".......or words to that effect. You have to stop issuing debt at some point. Are you aware that at the moment, the interest alone that we pay on our current debt is more than we spend on Defence and Education combined! Ha, explain to me how QE is not government spending? It's a branch of government spending money to buy gilts. The difference, to the real economy? It's also the only thing that has kept gilt yields positive. Think of that, UK debt so in demand that we are able to create money out of fresh air, without yields going through the roof! But monetary policy only takes you so far, of course.
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 22, 2017 19:00:29 GMT
Economically, excessive concentration of wealth is a problem. There is only so much money that an individual can spend, meaning that money gets taken out of useful circulation and simply inflates asset prices, such as London housing. When the system isn't working properly, it's for governments the intervene for the greater good of the nation.You mean like Mao did in China, or Stalin in Russia, or should we look at a more recent version of these methods you claim to be good, like Venezuela? How are things going over there? No, more like what FDR did to end the Great Depression
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 22, 2017 18:41:27 GMT
Put simply i believe ordinary people are all people except the very wealthy. I believe a labour party following its founding principles stand up for such people. I believe tony blair and his cronies badly let down the labour movement.Ok so if you read my list the items before bLair was mentioned were things that pre bLair labour government did ,which were if im correct labour governments running labour principles ,again according to your posting i am an ordinary person who should f**k off and not watch rovers any more There are lots of well off labour mp's and supporters ,what is wrong with being wealthy ,i struggle to make ends meet ,however i'm happy with my lot and don't begrudge anyone their wealth. Can you imagine the chaos it would cause if those extremely well off people refused to spend a penny for a few weeks Economically, excessive concentration of wealth is a problem. There is only so much money that an individual can spend, meaning that money gets taken out of useful circulation and simply inflates asset prices, such as London housing. When the system isn't working properly, it's for governments the intervene for the greater good of the nation.
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