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Post by oldgas on Mar 30, 2021 16:22:29 GMT
If you do get a reply then it will be a double edge one as per usual. The more disruption to the cause the better no matter who or what it effects that is the ultimate goal and always has been for protests. These people are the biggest two faced hypocrites on the planet and lead sad lives......I suspect. Sorry to pull you up on use of English, but your post makes no sense. What is a "double edge reply"? Genuine question. Then "The more disruption to the cause the better" Are you suggesting that those demonstrating seek to disrupt their demonstrations in trying to achieve their stated aim?? Now that would bring a whole new interpretation of Machiavellianism. 😁 But moving along,the demos are no longer illegal under lockdown rules. To wit: "Changes to coronavirus lockdown rules that came into force yesterday (Monday) mean protesting is now an exception to the ban on large gatherings. However, this is on the condition that the organisers take precautions to protect against COVID-19." Will be interesting how the Police handle this. But what a terrible position to put the police in. The government (sic) really shouldn't be doing this. Drop the wording, it all goes away. Yep, if they remove the sentence allowing demonstrations the problem would be solved. Is that what you were thinking, Mystic Meg?
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Post by oldgas on Mar 30, 2021 12:43:52 GMT
Absolutely back to topic. First Bus have suspended bus services in and around Bristol City centre from 4pm today to 5am tomorrow morning. Health care and Nurses amongst others could well be affected. Workers that went into Bristol this morning on the bus now have to find alternative transport home from work this evening. And people have been defending this type of action - perhaps they're NIMBYS. This is an 'effing' nuisance oldie whether you like it or not. It genuinely saddens me that our City is back in the spotlight again for all the wrong reasons. If you do get a reply then it will be a double edge one as per usual. The more disruption to the cause the better no matter who or what it effects that is the ultimate goal and always has been for protests. These people are the biggest two faced hypocrites on the planet and lead sad lives......I suspect. Oh, without doubt, said the chap with limited ability to assimilate information and a similarly limited vocabulary. At least, according to Mystic Oldie.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 30, 2021 12:39:24 GMT
I do and I will. what do you suspect from that? Honestly? That your ability to assimilate information is extremely limited, matched only by your obvious limited vocabulary. But back to topic. Splendid, the plan’s working perfectly.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 30, 2021 11:09:26 GMT
Your usual response. I used to believe you. Enjoy the weather I do and I will. what do you suspect from that?
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Post by oldgas on Mar 30, 2021 9:18:16 GMT
Christ, not you as well. Understand this, he has no evidence to ‘Suspect’ anything. Is it really that difficult? Your comments on here are indicative, circumstantial, but indicative. On that basis, I suspect. Contrary to you of course who has consistently called me a Marxist, A failed Marxist, a coward, a head of a multi national conglomerate. I don't bother with you generally because you you have an innate ability to appear a very stupid man. I cannot know that for a fact, but based upon your comments on here, I suspect that to be true. Now run along old chap. I enjoy winding you up!
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Post by oldgas on Mar 30, 2021 9:17:04 GMT
Christ, not you as well. Understand this, he has no evidence to ‘Suspect’ anything. Is it really that difficult? But he’s going from his experience of your posts. In addition, in line with the definition from Cambridge - you only need to think or believe something to suspect. Therefore anyone can suspect whatever they want. They might be wrong, but they can suspect it. Clearly it is that difficult, but always happy to help 😊 Aaah , but you yourself have accused me of being a WUM, I've told you I enjoy winding people. Therefore you don't know if my posts truly reflect my thoughts, in the same way as Oldie doesn't actually know the first thing about me so is unable to suspect anything. For example, Oldie withdrew from this forum for a few weeks. I could have made myself look silly by saying on here I suspected he got so overwrought arguing with me that he decided to take time out. Two things, first I had absolutely no evidence to suggest that because he has never said and second, how arrogant would that appear when I think it was because of me he took a break. Oldie could havve left left for any number of reasons. He could have suffered ill health for example. I hope it wasn't that but I've never commentated because I didn't know. The best I could have done is speculate. And that is all Oldie has ever done, speculate on the sort of person I am, because he has based everything on my posts, which you have all said at on time or another are wind ups. Glad to help.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 29, 2021 19:44:01 GMT
Well yeah, exactly. That’s why he said “I suspect”. Did you really just spend time googling the word suspect to then just confirm all along what he’s been saying? Christ, not you as well. Understand this, he has no evidence to ‘Suspect’ anything. Is it really that difficult?
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Post by oldgas on Mar 29, 2021 19:05:59 GMT
But a great way to sum it all up Baggs Maybe the Police Officer could hold up a placard in reply saying..... "Actually we quite like the general public. We will not suppress the legitimate protests of the people as long as they are.. 1. Peaceful 2. Legal 3. Not during a pandemic that is killing 10s of thousands of people " Absolutely spot on, bang on the money and so reasonable that even reactionary, left wing couldn’t object.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 29, 2021 19:04:05 GMT
You just said, in effect, that you have no idea with regard to my life experiences. You are therefore totally wrong to suspect that yours are more varied, in depth or by any other measure because you just don’t know. It seems, therefore, that my grasp and usage of theEnglish language is at least the equal of yours. As for my experiences of the NF and the Anti-Nazi League and the other raggle taggle groups that came along for the crack, it is difficult to decide which group was the more repulsive. on the one hand you had the NF Neanderthals who, despite their odious views looked like they had a passing acquaintance with soap and water, and most of them were in work. Fairly low grade as you might expect, but at least they were making a contribution. The others were to a person dirty, smelly, unkempt social security scrounges who seemed to be in the vanguard of obscene body piercings and specialised in stinking of BO. A comparison with fox hunting comes to mind when describing these incidents, “the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible” At what point are you going to comprehend, "I suspect"... The rest of your rant is there for all to read and exposes you for what you are. dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/suspectHerewith the definition of’Suspect’ As you can see, whilst one may suspect something about someone or something, they can’t be entirely sure because they are not in possession of all the facts. Lets now examine your suspicions regarding me. You have admitted that you know nothing about me beyond my user name and my avatar. You know absolutely nothing about my background, education, hobbies, apart from football, obviously, my employment history, family etc etc. You are therefore in no position to suspect anything about me. All you can do is make baseless suppositions about me. As for the rest of what you describe as my rant; all I can do is relay what I witnessed first hand. I’m sorry if that doesn’t chime with your dewy-eyed ideal but there you go. Facts as they say, are facts.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 28, 2021 19:27:07 GMT
Just read this. A touch arrogant I think. We’ve heard all about your international business success, no doubt based on a kind of Not For Profit, Marxist. Rotherhood of man basis. I am very comfortable with my values, thank you very much. As for life experiences, you don’t have the first idea of the things I’ve done in my life or the people I’ve met or the things I have witnessed first hand, so please less the I’ve had a fuller more rounded life than you suggestion. France / Eric You can like this as much as you like, but his and mine contributions to this thread alone absolutely expose our differing values. In terms of life experiences, I used the term "I suspect" because of course I don't know. Strange that the use of the English language passes so many people by. But I do recall this. I asked Oldgas some time ago (given our generation) if he recalled the National Front activities of the late 60s to 70s. He said he did, whilst saying he disagreed with them he went on to rant about the appearance and nature of those that opposed and demonstrated against them. There can be no illigitmate demonstration against an organisation such as that. Not in appearance, nature and absolutely not in values. Values...indeed You just said, in effect, that you have no idea with regard to my life experiences. You are therefore totally wrong to suspect that yours are more varied, in depth or by any other measure because you just don’t know. It seems, therefore, that my grasp and usage of theEnglish language is at least the equal of yours. As for my experiences of the NF and the Anti-Nazi League and the other raggle taggle groups that came along for the crack, it is difficult to decide which group was the more repulsive. on the one hand you had the NF Neanderthals who, despite their odious views looked like they had a passing acquaintance with soap and water, and most of them were in work. Fairly low grade as you might expect, but at least they were making a contribution. The others were to a person dirty, smelly, unkempt social security scrounges who seemed to be in the vanguard of obscene body piercings and specialised in stinking of BO. A comparison with fox hunting comes to mind when describing these incidents, “the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible”
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Post by oldgas on Mar 28, 2021 15:18:00 GMT
Is that what you truly believe? Really? Thats akin to me saying those rioters are Remainers personified. You really are very strange.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 28, 2021 14:50:12 GMT
Apologies to oldie , meant oldgas ,! What similar, but different views you both have 😄 Purdown We share the same generation but little in terms of values and I suspect life experiences. Just read this. A touch arrogant I think. We’ve heard all about your international business success, no doubt based on a kind of Not For Profit, Marxist. Rotherhood of man basis. I am very comfortable with my values, thank you very much. As for life experiences, you don’t have the first idea of the things I’ve done in my life or the people I’ve met or the things I have witnessed first hand, so please less the I’ve had a fuller more rounded life than you suggestion.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 28, 2021 12:58:39 GMT
JB needs to be careful here.Im getting a bit hacked off with him calling the officials after every loss. We can all see what happened, but there’s not a blind bit of difference anyone can make by constantly moaning. If we were given an offside goal or an iffy penalty would he be ranting? I doubt it. it won’t be our problem come next week when he’s *** off to Preston taking his staff with him, Alan Coughlin. Never mind, the compo will help pay the wages of Garner and Tisdale. Don't hang your hat on the chance of any compo. Bartons agent will have insisted on a clause that if a club from a higher level comes calling he will be free to walk. You’re probably right. Gets better every day, doesn’t it?
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Post by oldgas on Mar 28, 2021 12:19:23 GMT
Nice to know the ref has cost us again and there May be a conspiracy Call Mike Jones! JB needs to be careful here.Im getting a bit hacked off with him calling the officials after every loss. We can all see what happened, but there’s not a blind bit of difference anyone can make by constantly moaning. If we were given an offside goal or an iffy penalty would he be ranting? I doubt it. it won’t be our problem come next week when he’s *** off to Preston taking his staff with him, Alan Coughlin. Never mind, the compo will help pay the wages of Garner and Tisdale.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 27, 2021 20:30:17 GMT
We are down I’m afraid, relegated without so much as a wimper.
I only hope that the clowns in the boardroom have got it right with Barton, but I’m afraid they’re taking the p1ss out of WAQ, who I believe is a genuine football man who desperately wants the club to succeed.
When we’re relegated I hope Barton is able to persuade our better players to stay and can clear out the dross we’ve accumulated and replace them with some skilled battlers who can give the team a spine and some desire to facilitate a quick return. If our good players decide it’s not for them then we’re *** for a couple of seasons while we build from the start.
Here’s hoping. Looking forward to aways at Grimsby, Scunthorpe and Morecombe. Oh goody!
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Post by oldgas on Mar 27, 2021 15:55:31 GMT
What about assholes throwing fireworks at horses, that nothing as well? A copper forcefully smacked a woman round the head with a baton There has been absolute disgusting scenes from all sides So what? How do you know the woman wasn't shoving the copper and shouting and swearing at him? The whole peaceful demo descended into an orgy of violence later in the evening. I assume you accept the bother was started by the demonstrators? As for it being a woman, so what? They're always screaming about their feminist values and being treated equally, so if she was stupid enough to be right at the front of the trouble makers she can hardly complain if she got belted. you can't have it both ways.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 27, 2021 15:50:07 GMT
Threatening to arrest a kid for carrying a placard because of its wording??..Jesus Christ. Best one I ever saw was a young lady carrying a placard that said "Trump, I would call you a c*nt, but you have no warmth and lack depth" That still makes me laugh Maybe the threat of imprisonment for destruction of a statue just may prevent the thugs from doing it. Surely that's not a bad thing. In respect of a kid carrying a placard containing abusive language if he/she was asked to remove it by the Police and they did what's the issue. If they refused and were then threatened with arrest again what's the issue. But it's a 16year old female. Apparently they get a free pass th display offensive messages from the liberal left. I don't like the bloke, but if Tommy Robinson or whatever name he goes by were to carry a similar placard the left would be screaming dementedly for his arrest. And probably castration.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 27, 2021 13:04:18 GMT
What about assholes throwing fireworks at horses, that nothiee I left at 6 o clock , as I put in a post if u care to take time to look . It was perfectly peaceful then , do have a nice day oldie , the sun is shinning ☀️ I fail to understand the relevance of what time you left the demo. The fact is you attended a mass gathering in breach of current legislation and against the medical advice of the experts advising the government. It may well have been peaceful when you left at 6pm, but I never said you did anything violent. My question was. "Do you consider assholes throwing fireworks at horses as nothing"? A simple enough question about acts carried out by people attending the same unlawful demonstration as you. A question ion you seem reticent to answer. Thank you for your salutation. I shall enjoy the sunshine with a clear conscience because I didn't attend an illegal gathering or hoy pyrotechnics at innocent humans and animals.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 27, 2021 10:45:34 GMT
It was peaceful , I saw no violence . Nothing remarkable , just a run of the mill demo . Seems attending a protest got more of a reaction than Cummings from some. Glad it went well, what’s the general feeling like there? I didn’t realise the bill would mean you can get 10 years for attending a protest, but only 5 years for rape. Is that true?! Rape is an arrestable offence which means a person on first conviction could receive a sentence of 5 years. Of course that is very often the minimum, but that is for the Judge to decide because it is an indictable only offence. I would imagine the bill, if ever enacted, would have a 10 year clause written into it. However I doubt this would be indictable only and is far more likely to be a 'Triable either way' This means the accused can elect to appear before the Crown Court or the Magistrates can send it to the CC if they think their sentencing powers are insufficient. In practice of course a rapist will usually be imprisoned for more than 5 years, while it will be very rare a demonstrator gets any prison time, let alone 10 years. The only time they'll get the Peter is if they've used the demo as a cover for causing damage, affray, assault etc. In my view and happy to be proved wrong.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 27, 2021 10:19:51 GMT
Seems attending a protest got more of a reaction than Cummings from some. Glad it went well, what’s the general feeling like there? I didn’t realise the bill would mean you can get 10 years for attending a protest, but only 5 years for rape. Is that true?! I know that if found guilty you could b liable to 10 yrs imprisonment for destruction of a statues etc , which I find unbelievable , before I left the mood was good plenty of chanting singing , age group of most protester very young , I saw no disturbances , other than the police telling a female protester of around 16 years old she would be arrested if she didn’t discard the placard she was carrying which had the word f...... y on it , 🥱 that caused a bit of a stir , apart from that nothing ! What about assholes throwing fireworks at horses, that nothing as well?
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