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Post by oldgas on Apr 7, 2021 21:42:00 GMT
Nice attempt at deflection. The posts on the gas guzzler thread are relevant, prove I was able to susectct Oldies decision to leave th forum. All you have to do, instead of producing the above crap, is re-post them here. PS. Who is, or was Gas 78? No no, it is you who is deflecting. You said you wouldn't make yourself silly to claim something about his reasoning for leaving. Then I showed you proof, and now you're trying to justify it that it was ok. You can't have it both ways. As for Gas 78 - I don't know. It might surprise you that I don't know anyone on the forum personally. Admit it - you've made a right fool of yourself and you're digging frantically to get out of it. How embarrassing. Who's going to start editing your posts next, I wonder? No admission from me old son. Just put those posts up or shut up. I understand gas78 may have been an alter ego. Any knowledge?
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Post by oldgas on Apr 7, 2021 21:24:01 GMT
Nice attempt at deflection. The posts on the gas guzzler thread are relevant, prove I was able to susectct Oldies decision to leave th forum. All you have to do, instead of producing the above crap, is re-post them here.
PS. Who is, or was Gas 78?
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Post by oldgas on Apr 7, 2021 18:56:58 GMT
I suppose I was being naive in asking you that. Perhaps it would be better if Gassy just put the 2 posts on here for all to read. I don't suppose he's going to do that and lose face. As I said, he had to leave the other forum because he made an idiot of himself, he won't want to do that again. What are you even on about at this point? I'm genuinely lost. From what you've said this is my understanding: I went onto other forum, edited your post on there. Then, I took that post and imported it onto this forum. And then I logged onto the other forum under a different name? Are you'd genuinely all with it? You realise how idiotic all of that is? You're digging the worlds deepest hole because you refuse to admit that you made yourself look silly in what you said about Oldie. If the posts make me lose face, show them here. Seeming as you're the only person who has any idea what you're going on about - show us. If you're not going to, then stop wasting my time with childish, pathetic accusations. Just put the 2 posts you referred to on here. They're in the Bexit and the Whole Wide World. Oldies on P45, mine on P49. Instead of trying to spread confusion and obfuscation just put the posts up for everyone to see. I don't see why you won't do it. Unless you've got something to hide.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 7, 2021 7:58:26 GMT
This suggests you have read the posts mentioned. what did you think? It doesn't suggest that at all, although I did read them at the time. To be honest I've lost track of what your argument with Gassy is. You'll need to remind me. I suppose I was being naive in asking you that. Perhaps it would be better if Gassy just put the 2 posts on here for all to read. I don't suppose he's going to do that and lose face. As I said, he had to leave the other forum because he made an idiot of himself, he won't want to do that again.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 6, 2021 17:23:09 GMT
You admitted to editing my post on the other forum and importing the edited section on here. Please don’t deny it. The challenge still stands for you to import both Oldies post (p45) and mine which references his (p49) in their entirety and let people make their own decisions. You have done,everything you can to deflect from this challenge; I can’t understand why a know-all like you wouldn’t take the opportunity to prove your point. I suspect you will be waiting a bit, maybe worth doing it yourself. This suggests you have read the posts mentioned. what did you think?
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Post by oldgas on Apr 6, 2021 11:41:33 GMT
Oh right , I’d not noticed before . So there you go oldgas , don’t write a load of bloody rubbish or untruths and you won’t get edited . 😂 A request too far?? Sorry😁 A bit of advice Oldie: Practice what you preach.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 6, 2021 11:40:45 GMT
If posts are edited by Mods this should clearly be displayed and the reason why . Although you did accuse me of editing one of your posts before which I can categorically state is untrue or if it was it was by accident/ unintentional ( I wouldn’t know how to if I tried!) . You aren’t able to edit posts, only mods or the original poster. People can see if I’ve edited a post as it’ll say in the bottom right of that post “edited by x”. I don’t tend to put a reason as then the discussion becomes the edit rather than the discussion, but if people really want it - then fine. This has happened about 3 times al year so it’s much less than anyone thinks. I’d prefer it if people would just write posts that didn’t need to be edited though - we all know who I’m talking to. You admitted to editing my post on the other forum and importing the edited section on here. Please don’t deny it. The challenge still stands for you to import both Oldies post (p45) and mine which references his (p49) in their entirety and let people make their own decisions. You have done,everything you can to deflect from this challenge; I can’t understand why a know-all like you wouldn’t take the opportunity to prove your point.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 6, 2021 8:04:47 GMT
Last time I went there we won 6-0! Me too! The trouble is we went to Shrewsbury the following Tuesday evening and got mullered 4-0. A certain Alex Rodman was the chief architect, I seem to remember.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 5, 2021 19:00:06 GMT
If I were you I’d donate it to OTIB.
It can’t be long before the anti-Pearson bed sheet protests start.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 5, 2021 7:56:39 GMT
What’s Henry got to do with this? As for Gassy, he’s already admitted he edited my post by putting up the part e wanted. I didn’t run off to the other forum whingeing and whining. I was banned without warning from here and was surprised to see how reasonable they were on the other forum. glad you recognise you’re a Marxist Leftie. PS Found any racists lurking under your bed lately? Yeah, I edited your posts recently. I took out your accusation of Blair being a war criminal, as that's dangerous. I edited your post when you called Megan Markle a "little bitch". I may have done some others too, if I find things to be offensive or just out of order - I'll edit the post to adjust the language and still deliver your point. I've done the same to a Grover post a while ago (that blueridge noticed and pointed out). Not sure why you seem to think this is some fantastic hand you've built here, it's really not. You know, you could just post like a grown up so I wouldn't have to edit your posts.. PS, nice deflection btw So you admit to editing posts. interesting.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 3, 2021 15:21:18 GMT
*sigh* I’m actually taking the weekend off from the forum (and rovers) but thought I’d answer the bullshit from OldGas quickly. I haven’t swerved anything. I responded to your post, you didn’t reply - so how did I swerve. I also cannot edit posts on the other forum, only on here. I thought that much was simple and obvious. I go onto the other forum when someone points me to something on there, and that’s it. And finally, you mentioned the other forum - not me. I quote your post, which referred to the other forum. Therefore it’s you - but I guess that is too difficult to understand for you. Enjoy your weekend. So put the 2 posts on here and let others decide. Living rent free in my head? That’s almost funny. The only place you’ll ever live rent free is in a squat.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 3, 2021 15:16:48 GMT
*sigh* I’m actually taking the weekend off from the forum (and rovers) but thought I’d answer the bullshit from OldGas quickly. I haven’t swerved anything. I responded to your post, you didn’t reply - so how did I swerve. I also cannot edit posts on the other forum, only on here. I thought that much was simple and obvious. I go onto the other forum when someone points me to something on there, and that’s it. And finally, you mentioned the other forum - not me. I quote your post, which referred to the other forum. Therefore it’s you - but I guess that is too difficult to understand for you. Enjoy your weekend. The bloke is a complete fool , always claiming people are editing his posts and saying people are posting under different names . All without absolutely any proof what so ever . That other chap ‘Henry’ was saying I was posting under a different name and he’d worked out who it was 😂. I asked for proof ( at its complete hogwash) and he’s disappeared. Towngas ran off to the other forum whinging and whining how everyone on here was picking on him , yet comes on here saying how he’s socking it to all us Marxist Lefties . I’ll give him some credit though , he’s good for the comedy element. What’s Henry got to do with this? As for Gassy, he’s already admitted he edited my post by putting up the part e wanted. I didn’t run off to the other forum whingeing and whining. I was banned without warning from here and was surprised to see how reasonable they were on the other forum. glad you recognise you’re a Marxist Leftie. PS Found any racists lurking under your bed lately?
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Post by oldgas on Apr 3, 2021 13:15:21 GMT
I see you've swerved this post. I wonder why? Perhaps its because it shows the reason why Oldie left that forum and that was what I commented on. You say you don’t spend any time on that forum, but you were on there long enough to edit my post then put it on here, as well as removing your posts where you’d been found out and admonished by the Mod.. So go on, as you think Oldies post on page 45 and my post on 49 prove your point, reproduce them on here. You have said I only mentioned Oldie and the rest of the post is about Yatton. I didn’t even mention Yatton.Prove you’re right. You don’t usually dodge such an opportunity. Again, I wonder why? Why on earth should I be a topic of conversation? The reasons I took a break from this and the other forum were combination of personal pressures and a need to reset, I found myself becoming angry and thats a dead end. My reasons though are irrelevant in the greater scheme of things and I would appreciate you refraining from speculating on a public forum. Thank you in advance. The topic of this conversation was my comment on your post on another forum which some on here jumped on with undisguised delight because it was apparently my GGMI moment, whatever that is. Chiefly your mate Gassy, who is quite content to snoop around on other forums for posts which he can edit to prove what he’s saying. Unfortunately for him he had made himself a total prat on that other forum by posting rubbish (what’s new) under a different name. Unluckily for him someone realised what he was up to and called him out with the result he was admonished by one of the mods. All the posts in question have now been removed. I wonder who did that? In order to defend myself I’ve also gone onto the other forum and seen for myself what he’s trying to do. It’s unfortunate if you feel uncomfortable your post is being discussed but you’ve got your mate Gassy to thank for that. Gassy’s a big boy and you should let him answer for himself. I suggest you go back to your PM conversation and advise him he’s on his own. All he has to do to prove his point is transfer those 2 posts here. For information they’re on pages 45 and 49 of the Brexit and the whole wide world thread. I really don’t understand his reticence, normally he would be all over this like a tramp on chips.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 3, 2021 12:18:16 GMT
The libertarian term has been hijacked by those on the far right in the US . Claiming they are libertarians because they should be free to think and say what they like ( normally racist stuff ) and have the right to have guns etc Who gives a flying what the Yanks have done? All that does is give fools in this country who have been manipulated by the far left the confidence to accuse anyone they don’t like of being racist.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 3, 2021 11:22:06 GMT
What do you understand it to mean? Too simple a statement as there are many subgroups, some with conflicting ideals. In basic terms, someone who wants minimum state involvement, low taxes and individualism. Some would reverse the welfare state, some want to end capitalism and some think we are free to exploit natural resources. What have I written to give you that thought and do you see it as a positive, negative or neutral term? What is your definition? I’m not using the term in a derogatory manner. You seem an open-minded person who I don’t think welcomes over interference by the state where it isn’t required, and believe people should be free to make a success of themselves without the state seeking to confiscate the result of their success to redistribute according to some left wing dogma. That’s pretty much how I feel, as well as being happy to pay towards the health service and to help those in genuine need but not to provide lazy, idle **** with a lifestyle choice off the back of my labours.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 3, 2021 11:16:16 GMT
Why didn’t you put the whole of my post on here rather than a segment you know doesn’t represent the totality of the post and was obviously chosen by you to try and prove you’re point? Also, why don’t you put up Oldies final post on that thread, the one to which I referred and let people make their own minds up. Go on, it’s on page 45 of the Brexit and the whole wide world thread. Once again, you have already been called out on that forum for devious behaviour and you seem to have disappeared from there and taken your posts with you. Something to hide? Because thats the only part that was relevant to Oldie, the rest was about Yatton. Prove me wrong. I haven't needed to prove a point, you've made it yourself for all to see. Regarding Oldie's post on there, it might actually surprise you that I don't go on there very often - only when I'm accused of things, so I haven't seen it. As you seem to know it so well, why don't you bring it up? The fact is that you used someones personal life to score a political point, then you bragged about how you wouldn't do something like that. It's genuinely disgusting that you'd do that for your own gain. Will you apologise to Oldie? Will you admit that this makes you look "silly" - as you put it? They can call me out whatever they want, I'm here - always have been. It was they who left the forum, they know where to find me. Or actually, turns out they don't. As another poster on here said to me at the time, "living in their heads rent free". Common theme among you lot. I see you've swerved this post. I wonder why? Perhaps its because it shows the reason why Oldie left that forum and that was what I commented on. You say you don’t spend any time on that forum, but you were on there long enough to edit my post then put it on here, as well as removing your posts where you’d been found out and admonished by the Mod.. So go on, as you think Oldies post on page 45 and my post on 49 prove your point, reproduce them on here. You have said I only mentioned Oldie and the rest of the post is about Yatton. I didn’t even mention Yatton.Prove you’re right. You don’t usually dodge such an opportunity. Again, I wonder why?
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Post by oldgas on Apr 3, 2021 10:26:36 GMT
I’ve said I consider you a Libertarian. Surely as such you can recognise, given the way protesting has developed in this country, there is a need for legislation to deal with this change. In that sense, I don’t think the legislation will be draconian, and will help ensure that everybody else in the area, and the vast majority to boot, aren’t overly inconvenienced. I wouldn't call myself a libertarian, at least as far as I understand the term. What do you understand it to mean?
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Post by oldgas on Apr 3, 2021 9:44:28 GMT
I wouldn't call myself a libertarian, at least as far as I understand the term. I've been labelled Libertarian by posters on here, I can only assume it as some sort of dig. Most people have Libertarian stances, certainly socially, most people commenting on these threads judging by their posts have skepticism of authority, Governmental and state power. I would hazard a guess that most are also in favour of freedom of choice, individualism and voluntary association. That's basically what a Libertarian is. Which is what I meant. I heard Grover wanted to be a Librarian, but he never got past the section on how to manage a haulage company.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 3, 2021 9:42:03 GMT
I know he's plugging a book, but interesting use of language none the less. "Boris Johnson and several top Tories have been savaged in a waspish memoir by the prime minister's former deputy. Sir Alan Duncan, who was Mr Johnson's number two when he was foreign secretary, calls the current prime minister an "embarrassing buffoon". But he is also scathing about many senior Conservative government ministers, including former prime ministers David Cameron and Theresa May. Sir Alan, who quit as an MP in 2019 after 27 years in the Commons, unleashes his barbs in his diaries entitled The Thick Of It, which is being serialised in the Daily Mail." news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-among-top-tories-savaged-in-book-by-pms-former-deputy-12264314Sad thing about those descriptions by Alan Duncan is that we knew most of that, but still people voted for them. Yeah, as opposed to Milliband, (He of the huge stone with his 10 Commandmants chiselled onto it and erected in the rear garden of No. 10) Corbyn, Clegg, Swinson. Who would YOU have wanted as PM?
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Post by oldgas on Apr 2, 2021 19:01:13 GMT
I was pointing out that a total Communist state like China books no argument and was quite happy to slaughter protesters by crushing them with tanks the last time they had a mainland riot. With communism there is no meeting half way. The state is in control, is always right and therefore demonstration is a crime against the state and will be ruthlessly put down. To describe that as a diatribe and waffle is therefore ridiculous. As for Hong Kong, you must be aware there were a number of conditions and guarantees signed up to by the Chinese when we handed the province over. They have had to abide by them to maintain international credibility while they built their power. Now they are mostly unassailable both militarily and through world trade influence they had the excuse they needed and dealt with the Hong Kong protests. They put their troops in there and I don’t suppose they’ll ever leave. Hong Kong has gone, and I don’t suppose Taiwan will last as long as another decade before they’re subsumed. To say that the laws on protesting in this country being adjusted to account for the new wave and level of lawlessness to deal with those factors can be equated with the actions of China, however loosely, is ridiculous. I can’t believe that a libertarian like yourself would be anything other than horrified by China’s actions, and would expect you to condemn anyone who lauds the communist system as anything other than horrendous and a blight on humanity. But there you go. Not the incident itself but your way of equating it in the earlier post, then you claim I am trying to equate it. On the subject of China, yes I am appalled by their actions, historically and now, and have grave concerns over their growing influence worldwide. To suggest that I am in any way 'lauding' is wrong. If you are trying to imply I am then you have misread what I have said. I’ve said I consider you a Libertarian. Surely as such you can recognise, given the way protesting has developed in this country, there is a need for legislation to deal with this change. In that sense, I don’t think the legislation will be draconian, and will help ensure that everybody else in the area, and the vast majority to boot, aren’t overly inconvenienced.
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