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Post by Gastafari on Aug 27, 2022 16:12:50 GMT
Pretty terrible game but at least it's a point.
7 points from our first 6 games is alright.
We've already got a couple of wins on the board with a pretty thin squad at the moment.
Room for plenty of improvement but a decent start to the season imo
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 27, 2022 15:59:58 GMT
Wonder if Joey has defenders in his sights. 2 or 3 needed. Has to be. Without Connor Taylor and now Connoly out for at least 2 months the Defence is a lot weaker than it was last year. No Elliot Anderson, Sammy Nicholson or Luke Thomas either. McCormick still 2 maybe 3 weeks away. This squad currently is nowhere near as strong as the one that finished last season. I trust Joey to bring in some more absolute gems in the next week.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 27, 2022 14:11:20 GMT
Connolly has a stress fracture according to BBC Bristol. Any idea how long that keeps him out? Months I would imagine
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 27, 2022 14:10:14 GMT
That's who I meant, got confused by the 2. Mark Gavin was the Right Winger
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 26, 2022 23:45:05 GMT
Anybody seen Mark Gavin?
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 26, 2022 22:30:35 GMT
Sterling was poached from QPR. I know he came from qpr, but wasn't he about 15?? So they still count him as coming through the academy. Even if it was the later years. Didn't Lockyer start at Cardiff?? We say he came through it academy though. If that's the case then Chelsea have had about 100 since John Terry!
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 26, 2022 22:29:31 GMT
It wasn't 20 years at all.
Even if it was apart from Trent can you name me another Liverpool player to make the grade since Jamie Carragher or Steven Gerrard? That's been about 25 years. How longs Klopp been there? 8 years? Again Trent is the only one, and he's going out and buying the likes of Harvey Elliott and Carvalho from Fulham, just like he did with Southampton with all their best players.
Man City's a bit different as just over 20 years ago they were playing in the 3rd Divsion so can't really compare, but since they've had the cash which is near enough 15 years already, apart from Phil Foden, who else has come through?
What's De Bruyne and Salah got to do with anything? They weren't from the academy they were bought.
Anyway my point was regardless, if you want to look at where the best youngsters are coming from it's Chelsea, as they've got 7/8 in the 1st team squad already and providing top talent for others. We've just gone and bought one this week.
Must have been nearly that. I can remember them saying Terry was the last one to come through at one stage and that was after he retired! Don't follow Liverpool, but Sterling is an obvious one?? Don't get me wrong there wasn't an array until now since John Terry but it wasn't 20 years. Carlton Cole and Ryan Bertrand are 2 examples who both came after John Terry, Ok not generational talents but Bertrand won 3 trophies. League Cup, FA Cup and Champions League.
As Pirate mentioned, Sterling was poached from QPR. Like Joe Gomez from Charlton, Harvey Elliott from Fulham etc.
Anyway it's turning into a pretty pointless discussion. I was only stating that imo Chelsea's academy right now should be the go to one, in regards to getting players
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 26, 2022 18:55:50 GMT
Chelsea used to get pelters with only JT coming through, while being succesful.
Yet Liverpool only have Trent to have come through, and Man City only have Phil Foden while winning things, yet nobody bats an eyelid!
Regardless of the transfer embargo, these guys will have come through anyway.
Because it was about 20 years with Chelsea🤣. Plus they had player's like De Bryne and Salah from quite young and didn't play them! They would only every play recognized player's. If Man City and Liverpool are still like that in ten to fifteen years time, people will say something!! It wasn't 20 years at all.
Even if it was apart from Trent can you name me another Liverpool player to make the grade since Jamie Carragher or Steven Gerrard? That's been about 25 years. How longs Klopp been there? 8 years? Again Trent is the only one, and he's going out and buying the likes of Harvey Elliott and Carvalho from Fulham, just like he did with Southampton with all their best players.
Man City's a bit different as just over 20 years ago they were playing in the 3rd Divsion so can't really compare, but since they've had the cash which is near enough 15 years already, apart from Phil Foden, who else has come through?
What's De Bruyne and Salah got to do with anything? They weren't from the academy they were bought.
Anyway my point was regardless, if you want to look at where the best youngsters are coming from it's Chelsea, as they've got 7/8 in the 1st team squad already and providing top talent for others. We've just gone and bought one this week.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 25, 2022 22:01:53 GMT
Apart from Phil Foden, is there anybody else that's come close to their 1st team? I see Delap has gone on loan to Stoke, he's looks quite a good prospect but I wouldn't say Man City are 'Extremely Good'.
Compare that to Chelsea who have Reece James, Mason Mount, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Trevor Chalobah, Connor Gallagher, Callum Hudson-Odoi and Armando Broja all in their 1st team, who all bar Hudson-Odoi had succesful loan spells.
Then look at the ones they've sold like Fikayo Tomori, Marc Guehi, Tariq Lamptey, Timo Livramento and Tammy Abraham.
Currently we also have Josh Grant and Luke McCormick who came from the same Chelsea Academy like a lot of those.
If there's a club to go to for young players, and with Wael's obvious connections then it's Chelsea.
Palmer has come off the bench for them last season and this season. Not many have broken through yet though. Chelsea only had a load break through, because they were under a transfer embargo. Before that Terry was the last player to break through🤣. Just goes to show, that player's can break through, when they are given a go! Chelsea used to get pelters with only JT coming through, while being succesful.
Yet Liverpool only have Trent to have come through, and Man City only have Phil Foden while winning things, yet nobody bats an eyelid!
Regardless of the transfer embargo, these guys will have come through anyway.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 25, 2022 20:53:25 GMT
Agreed the youth level at Manchester city is extremely good, if you know parents with kids at youth level football they'll all tell you Man City are one of the best teams in the country who recruit and produce some of the best. The next Phil Phoden has to be amongst the ranks worth loaning out. Apart from Phil Foden, is there anybody else that's come close to their 1st team? I see Delap has gone on loan to Stoke, he's looks quite a good prospect but I wouldn't say Man City are 'Extremely Good'.
Compare that to Chelsea who have Reece James, Mason Mount, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Trevor Chalobah, Connor Gallagher, Callum Hudson-Odoi and Armando Broja all in their 1st team, who all bar Hudson-Odoi had succesful loan spells.
Then look at the ones they've sold like Fikayo Tomori, Marc Guehi, Tariq Lamptey, Timo Livramento and Tammy Abraham.
Currently we also have Josh Grant and Luke McCormick who came from the same Chelsea Academy like a lot of those.
If there's a club to go to for young players, and with Wael's obvious connections then it's Chelsea.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 23, 2022 21:31:21 GMT
Maybe he's better, but he's on loan. If McCormick signs and has a good few seasons with us, it will be better in the long run. Plus if he has a good year or two, we could make a profit on him. Plenty of potential to develop and he will be our player. I like McCormick as a player, but if Wombles fans are right and he is trying to force a move after happily signing a 3 year deal, id question his attitude and commitment. I would say that Joey wanting him back and also willing to pay a decent fee to get him back, say's a lot more about what LM's attitude and commitment is like!
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 22, 2022 23:23:20 GMT
I watched pretty much every game of that relegation season, but is it just me or can anyone else not remember anything about him at all? Maybe I've just shut my mind off from it all Him and Sammy Nicholson were the only shining lights.
Think it says a lot about his character just as much as his ability if Joey wants him back after only working with him for a few months in that terrible season.
He reminds me a lot of Mason Mount. Hardworking, covers a lot of ground closing down and pressing, can win the ball back, full of energy, but can also run with the ball, create and score goals.
I think him and Mason Mount are also very good pals, both the same age, both were at Chelsea from the age of 6 and played together all through the academy age groups before McCormick was released from Chelsea last summer.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 22, 2022 6:21:01 GMT
Walter1147, over the course of the full 90 mins Pompey deserved to win. BUT after we fought back to make it 1-1 it was anyone's game and from our perspective the two penalty decisions were gross miscarriages of justice and we are aggrieved. At the end of the day that's football. It must be hard supporting the historic giant of the South Coast now overtaken by Southampton, Brighton and Bournemouth. That all said I enjoyed my day out and would rather go somewhere with a bit of atmosphere and good old school boozers than some of the other away days. Pompey have been underachievers and crap since the 1980s apart from a spell under Harry Redknapp, when they borrowed loads of money they didn't have the capacity to repay, and indeed did not pay it back. Credit to their fans though. They stick with them. They went into administration in the late 90's as well. We raided them for David Hillier, Robbie Pethick and Andy Thomson. It winds me up actually. Clubs like us who try to live within in our means seem to always be worse off than clubs like Portsmouth who seem to get into financial difficulties reguarly yet always manage to wriggle out of it and end up better off.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 22, 2022 3:38:19 GMT
Few free agents i think JB may be considering: Izzy Brown (second striker) Andre Wisdom (right back) Grant Ward (right midfielder) Joesph Dodoo (left winger) Jacob Davenport (defensive midfielder) Elijah Dixon-Bonner (central midfielder) Jerome Sinclair (centre forward) Jamie Hanson (defensive midfielder) Brandon Pierrick (left winger) Josh Clarke (right back) Callum Rowe (left back) Jon Flanagan (right back) Issac Vassell (centre forward) James Weir (central midfielder) Jordan Willis (centre back) Oliver Pendlebury (defensive midfielder) George McEachran (centre midfielder) Said to someone recently I think Izzy Brown is the sort of player Joey could possibly get the best out of. If you look at his record it doesn't look great, but still only 25 and there is tremendous ability in him waiting to be unlocked. Would be a risk, but one possibly worth taking if he was affordable. Possibly George McEchran could be one Joey could get hold of as well. Joey seems to have an eye for former England youth internationals, Anthony Evans, Jordan Rossiter and now Lewis Gibson all made plenty of appearances for England in the different age groups. McEchran was part of the England U17's World Cup winning squad with Lewis Gibson, along with the likes of Marc Guehi, Connor Gallagher, Phil Foden and Callum Hudson-Odoi.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 22, 2022 3:17:39 GMT
Bristol as a City, and both Bristol clubs don't exactly do ourselves any favours.
Its not just Football either but sport in general in the City is very poor. Both in regards to facilities, infrastructure and success.
Bristol in relation to it's size must be the biggest underachieving City in Europe if not the World.
Other Cities of similar size like Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle and Sheffield the Football clubs are seen as institutions and are part of the culture of the City and maybe I'm generalising a little but imo the locals care about their Football teams a lot more as do the local councils.
Imo for some reason there is just a general apathy all round not only from the supporters of both Bristol Football clubs, but other sports as well, the Rugby club has hardly ever won anything apart from a John Player Cup in the 80's and a Challenge Cup a few years ago, while a tiny place in comparison like Bath have had a lot more sucesss. Gloucestershire CC apart from a bit of One Day success in the late 90's, early 2000's have never won anything, and the county ground is one of the smallest. While smaller Cities like Nottingham, Brighton and Cardiff have Test Match venues. It's like the City doesn't care. Even in the new Hundred tournament, our region, which would incorporate Gloucestershire and Somerset is the only area that hasn't got a franchise, again its like we don't care or cant be bothered.
So you can't really blame some Bristolians for not supporting their local teams when all the City's sports teams combined have never done anything and with sh*t facilities like The Mem and a tiny Cricket ground there's no wonder why we don't progress.
We need to look at ourselves and try a lot harder to entice people, with better facilities and a bit of success I am sure the Bristolians will support their local clubs. At the moment a lot look elsewhere.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 21, 2022 6:43:48 GMT
Let’s also remaining grounded to the fact that Barnsley were also in the champ playoffs only 2 season ago. On wards and up wards. These players under Barton have shown in the past they often bounce back from adversity. 3 points Saturday! But they lost 3-0 at home yesterday. I don't like the idea of normalising 3-0 defeats. The fact they were in the champ play offs not long ago just shows how much they have dropped in a short period. Let's not forget they had Luke Thomas playing, a player who couldn't get in our team for most of last season. Hopefully with a few more additions we'll look a lot stronger. We're also above Barnsley in the table. As we are with Forest Green too. All about results over the whole season, not individual games against certain teams.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 20, 2022 19:38:52 GMT
To me it looks like Anderson kicked through their lad for their pen. And Collins initiated the contact as he tends to do. So as unpopular as this may sound, I think the ref may have got both of them right. That's a pen. Shove in the back as well.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 20, 2022 17:27:12 GMT
Don't lose confidence. This time last year Anthony Evans hadn't signed, and Connoly and the Geordie genius didn't arrive until January. Surely Joey has earnt our trust over his recruitment. I'm certain he'll bring quality in again, whether it's the 6 he claimed he wants by the end of August, or if he just brings 4 in by the end of this window and then 2 in the new year. We'll be fine. see Connor Taylor is now first choice at Stoke. Flint has been relegated to the subs bench already. No real surprise. Would of been great to have him back again, but I suppose we've done our job in helping him progress to now starting in The Championship. The loans of him and the Geordie Genius will hopefully be a good advertisement for us and other clubs will have no hesitation sending prospects to us in future.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 20, 2022 17:05:50 GMT
JBs 6/7 is now already down to 5 …. According to his post match interview on Radio Bristol… Seriously starting to lose confidence in who / what is coming through the door… will only take one good one though and I will be back on Cloud Nine. Don't lose confidence. This time last year Anthony Evans hadn't signed, and Connoly and the Geordie genius didn't arrive until January. Surely Joey has earnt our trust over his recruitment. I'm certain he'll bring quality in again, whether it's the 6 he claimed he wants by the end of August, or if he just brings 4 in by the end of this window and then 2 in the new year. We'll be fine.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 20, 2022 16:34:40 GMT
Can't read to much into results after 5 games of the season.
Imo league tables don't usually take shape until at least Oct/Nov, sometimes even later.
I think Harrogate were top of League 2 last year at November, while we were about 17th.
Forest were bottom of The Championship in October, got promoted.
6 points from our 1st 5 games isn't too bad, with new players to come in the next 10 days.
I'm confident Joey can pluck some more gems for us
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