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Post by miltongas on Apr 16, 2023 7:41:15 GMT
I felt the ref had to give the pen. He’d given free kicks for a number of very soft fouls and the challenge on Evans was a bit stronger. You do also wonder if the keeper’s antics had got on his nerves so he wasn’t feeling too generous towards them. We deserved the point and could have got 3 if we’d scored earlier. After about 20 mins there was only going to be one winner I thought. Looking at their goal, Finley seemed to claim he was chopped down in the box before they scored. He needed treatment afterwards so I wonder if that affected his game because he wasn’t great from them on. A good point earned.
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Post by miltongas on Apr 15, 2023 18:34:38 GMT
MK to survive. I’ve got close friends who live there so it’s a good weekend away opportunity.
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Post by miltongas on Mar 26, 2023 10:08:13 GMT
I imagine that a number of factors are at play. The excitement of the run in last season must have boosted sales - even after early bird sales went off line. There will be some who have felt underwhelmed by this season - it’s been a slog at times as we all know. And the cost of living crisis will inevitably have hit some harder than others and there will be people who simply cannot justify a season ticket. I know that I had to think about the cost more than in previous seasons before I renewed so others must have made the decision the other way and chosen not to. With that in mind I’d say 3000 was a reasonable start.
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Post by miltongas on Mar 24, 2023 22:34:46 GMT
Can we play them every week?
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Post by miltongas on Mar 20, 2023 21:48:11 GMT
Disappointing that some knuckle draggers still about. She probably one of the best refs we've had down the Mem this season. Sad state of affairs. Society has plenty of sexists, homophobes, racists etc. etc. and I guess it’s inevitable some of them will appear in a crowd of 8000 people. Shame they darken our club’s (or any club’s) reputation with their views.
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Post by miltongas on Mar 18, 2023 14:08:48 GMT
I like Gibson but don't think we should have a loan player as captain Agreed. Should be Belly but Joey is running out of players he hasn’t had a pop at 🤣 In that respect Gibson is expendable.
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Post by miltongas on Mar 18, 2023 7:47:16 GMT
Someone has to pick up the poisoned chalice so I’ll have a go. Especially as I can’t make the game. Will we continue our run of playing well against one of the better teams or will Tuesday’s defeat have knocked our confidence. One thing I do know is we need to score. Our record of scoring goals is poor recently. Anyway I’ll be optimistic and go for a 2-1 home win. Collins and Marquis to see us there. UTG
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Post by miltongas on Mar 12, 2023 12:11:57 GMT
This is what I don't understand. You have made a good point in a balanced way. Illegal immigration is an issue that needs to be dealt with. Calling them swarms and deporting them to Rowanda is not something I would have expected from a sitting government in this country, even the Tories. Some posters on here are unable or unwilling to understand that it is possible to think immigration is an issue while at the same time recognising that there are very dangerous echos from the past. Indeed some of the language used by some on this thread is nasty. So many people who are proud we beat the Nazis are incredibly intolerant of others. Or some posters are getting a bit carried away, I can't see any real signs we're turning into Nazi Germany in the UK just because the Tories are trying to stop the Chanel Crossing. Isn’t that how it starts Topper? In 1945 William L Shirer, the American journalist, interviewed people in Germany. Most wouldn’t admit to voting Nazi but those who did claimed that they had no idea Hitler meant it. They thought it was just an election ploy to grab votes and that after he was elected he wouldn’t really try to implement his policies. Of course if they’d realised they wouldn’t have voted for him. Again, a parallel between language and action which we need to be vigilant over. That’s why Ian Kerhsaw’s (excellent in my opinion) documentary was called The Nazis: A warning from history.
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Post by miltongas on Mar 12, 2023 11:52:11 GMT
I’m going to leave it here, but the irony of all this is freedom of speech, I have held back quite a bit, and wouldn’t dare say my full thoughts on here in fear of being called a racist (I am not). There’s a bit of food for thought. Football, politics don’t mix. You’ve held back? But you’re not racist. So what have you held back - moderate views?
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Post by miltongas on Mar 12, 2023 11:38:14 GMT
Sorry Batesy but you are wrong. Language matters. Th e dehumanisation of refugees and the language that links ALL of them to criminals is appalling. It leads directly to the actions you clearly support such as killing them in the sea. For parallels see any genocide in history that starts with the language of hate before it becomes physical action we’re not killing them at sea, and why you do you think I would support such actions. Quite strong words your putting it my mouth, yet your miles off the mark in that respect. So let’s just open up the borders then? Let everyone in. Let’s allow full gangs to just walk in our country, set up base where ever, and leave them to it. I hate the conservatives, but I back them on this 1. They need to back it up with actions. I was using your words to prove the link between actions and language. The language you used correlates directly to the actions you also used. That is the point. I don’t believe in open borders but I believe we could and should do more to help refugees (and those equally vulnerable in society). We could easily open safe routes and proper systems to allow those in genuine need to settle here.
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Post by miltongas on Mar 12, 2023 11:24:25 GMT
So what's the alternative to the present proposed Government policy, just open up our borders to anybody who wants to move to the UK and then let the whole population of Albania take over the country? I see there are suggestions in the press that Germany are going to follow the proposed Rwanda route, so they are clearly having similar issues. It's easy to criticise the Government, not so easy to come up with an alternative plan, Labour don't seem to many any at present. Build asylum centres in France to document and assess the claims. Legitimate ones can be allowed to enter the UK with the correct documentation and legal permission to live, work and contribute. Anyone making a fraudulent claim will not be allowed. France has made this offer but it doesn’t suit the governments blanket anti-immigration agenda. It’s not Labour’s job to suggest policy. That’s why we have a government - Labour’s job is to hold the government to account for their actions.
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Post by miltongas on Mar 12, 2023 11:16:46 GMT
[br The debate is about the parallels of language between Germany in 1930s and the current tory government. The Germans used divisive language that alienated the Jews as a threat to ordinary Germans. The current government uses language that alienates the refugees (not illegal because you cannot be an illegal asylum seeker) as a threat to ‘our’ ordinary people. The targets may have changed but the actions and language remain the same. And many of the ‘anti-illegals’ group would definitely have been anti-Jewish refugees in the 1930s. As many (including the Daily Mail and it’s family owners) were. Language and actions are completely different things. You could compare the 2 if we were out there with a pin popping there dinghies in the middle of the channel, but we don’t. That would be a comparison. Talk is cheap, and something needs to be done about it. Can’t just let in everyone, terrorists, sex traffickers, drug traffickers, sex offenders, these people need to be checked, and tracked at our own expense. Sorry Batesy but you are wrong. Language matters. Th e dehumanisation of refugees and the language that links ALL of them to criminals is appalling. It leads directly to the actions you clearly support such as killing them in the sea. For parallels see any genocide in history that starts with the language of hate before it becomes physical action
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Post by miltongas on Mar 12, 2023 10:51:59 GMT
Ffs That's exactly what the National Socialists said about Jews in Germany in the 1920s/30s. Look it up what have Jews got to do with todays boat crossings? Jews keep getting mentioned to me, yet I never mentioned them, as others have said, there’s no comparison. [br The debate is about the parallels of language between Germany in 1930s and the current tory government. The Germans used divisive language that alienated the Jews as a threat to ordinary Germans. The current government uses language that alienates the refugees (not illegal because you cannot be an illegal asylum seeker) as a threat to ‘our’ ordinary people. The targets may have changed but the actions and language remain the same. And many of the ‘anti-illegals’ group would definitely have been anti-Jewish refugees in the 1930s. As many (including the Daily Mail and it’s family owners) were.
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Post by miltongas on Mar 12, 2023 10:43:08 GMT
Swap the words ‘illegals’ and ‘immigrants’ for the word ‘Jews’ and then read it im not talking about Jews, I’m talking about the illegal immigrants, that have no right to be here. So you wouldn’t be so full of hatred to Jews but other minorities are fine. Nice.
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Post by miltongas on Mar 12, 2023 10:25:41 GMT
For information and clarity: I believe the ‘holocaust’ was a German policy developed at the Wannsee Conference in January 1941 when the higher level Nazis, those just below Himmler and Hitler met to develop the policy of exterminating the Jews. It set in train the next 4 years. Hideous. Some of those present and involved in the policy were members of local government and West German politics in the 1960s. Wannsee is a suburb of Berlin. UTG! Sorry to be a pedant but Wannsee was Jan 1942.
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Post by miltongas on Mar 12, 2023 10:12:01 GMT
So we should continue letting in 40,000 ILLEGAL immigrants into our country every year and rising year by year. Us tax payers are paying for these “intruders” to live a better life than me, im in full time work, paying my way, trying to support my family while another boat full of immigrants, usually a boat full of blokes in there 20’s, no wife or children on board, and usually not running away from war. These people (not all) are here for a free ride, and I have had enough of hearing stories of these people coming to our country and intimidating our people, abusing our laws, and I have to pay for that. When they get to France they are in a safe place, but get nothing. They come here and get everything. Why wouldn’t you make that trip across the channel. We’re all talking about freedom of speech, that’s my view, and so many other peoples view, sadly not many are brave enough to say it, because it’s now a minority view. Gary Lineker is a 2 faced tit. Knows what his contract is, and is constantly pushing his views and making his job untenable. But the publicity the guys getting will line his pocket a bit more. Swap the words ‘illegals’ and ‘immigrants’ for the word ‘Jews’ and then read it
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Post by miltongas on Mar 12, 2023 9:30:00 GMT
Absolutely Wareham, it is the dragging in of the Nazis and the Holocaust that went over the top, across the red line. But that isn’t what he said. He didn’t mention Nazis or The Holocaust. What he highlighted was the language parallels. The divisive language being used today does mirror the language of Germany. The ‘them’ and ‘us’ terminology. The ‘threats to our culture’ the idea of a ‘war’ between one side and another are all phrases that have been used by the current government and were used in 1930’s Germany.
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Post by miltongas on Mar 11, 2023 11:31:24 GMT
Well done Rovers, what ever your political view you should be allowed to express it. Freedom of speech !!! UTG Not when you are being paid over a million a year and know the company's policies you shouldn't!! He would know, what he can and can't say. He would have attended courses on it, I have previously for rubbish jobs! A lot of employer's will check social media, before employing people know. If your employer pays you to stay impartial on social media, it's not hard to stick to it! Freedom of speech, is just a cop out and an excuse. He knew he was breaking the rules and gets paid enough to stick to them! Do you feel the same and get as hot under the collar about people like Alan Sugar who is very vocal in his support for the government? It has to be applied consistently and that has definitely not happened on this occasion.
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Post by miltongas on Mar 5, 2023 21:33:03 GMT
I realise this is a massive generalisation but I imagine some of those who are happy to play the system in their favour will then complain that the club doesn’t invest in x, y or z and yet probably cannot see the link between the two.
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Post by miltongas on Mar 4, 2023 15:53:50 GMT
Grew into that half. Looked better as it went on.
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