Gills v Gas Matchday thread

Of course we were but we know all too well, as gasheads, that cup games and play offs aren’t a strong or lucky point. I still maintain that in both promotion seasons, we had our fair share of what snooker pundits call the rub of the green and it seems to balance out over the 45 or whatever amount of games we now play. I was on tenterhooks at both games, the mariners games was terrible for me and I thought puddynwas a gonner then up pops Ellis to score, thank god. The penalties were hell for me. 
The Daggers game ? I said to my friend we we going up automatically that day and I was convinced of it. He thought me mad. In the melee when we scored, my phone, money and keys went all over only to all be handed back, every penny too. 
Goimgmomto the pitch and awaiting the score from Accrington was hard but when the result came in I was in 7th heaven but i have followed both clubs results since then and feel empathy with them. Must be very hard to miss out on promotion when you habe beaten the team that went up, twice. 
Yes, agreed, it was results over a season but neither promotion was convincing and neither did we show we were a cut above many teams. You can have great individuals but I’d they don’t play for each other, like it *seems* is happening now, then you have nothing. Luck also plays a major part. 
When we beat the 82 to the 3rd tier league champions, we showed grit, determination, guile and something very special. I don’t see that right now but neither am I melthing down or thing of hara kiri

Every team that's ever got narrowly promoted can identify moments of good luck, and any team that gets narrowly relegated has hard luck stories.

But

When we got promoted from the conference we would have gone up automatically but for that last minute goal when Puddy either dropped a clanger or got pushed, depending on your take. We were some way clear of the third placed team so surely by that token had we got beaten on penalties at Wembley we would have been considered extremely unlucky?

You could consider that we were a little lucky to pip Accrington, yes, but we would have still had our chance in the playoffs, and we finished top half last year. Surely if we had not merited promotion, we would have come straight back down?

We have had some really bad luck over the years, notably Mansfield, which there is no doubt we should have won. Cancel that one out with the league 2 promotion, if you want But if you see things the way you seem to, you will doubtless not believe us to have been unlucky to have been relegated

When we beat City to win the 3rd Div didn't we rely on them blowing a large lead and the Derby decider being postponed a couple of times when they were in better form than when it was eventually played? My point being that it's easy to look back on history with tinted glasses and think everything was great but you could also say a bit of luck/fate played a part. I don't see why when something good happens for us we have to say we were lucky. We deserved our relegation to the Conf but thoroughly deserved the two promotions that followed.

We have a history of a tiny number of promotions and we have "fans" putting down 2 of the promotions as lucky??
you couldnt really make it up could you?

I think the only relatively comfortable promotion we ever had was under gerry francis but surely there is a way of twisting that into pure luck?

Why not add that our famous cup win against the busby babes in the 50"s was because of the mud bath of a pitch.

Yes this game plays feckin havoc with us at times. I remember the night at the Mem when Wycombe beat us to condem us to the fourth tier for the first time - I didn't think it could get worse ( it did tho ). Perhaps that's why some have a meltdown when we lose. 
But in reverse I tend not to get as angry as much nowadays, although I don't go to that many away games now - so those that do have seen some horrid trips this season, I can understand their feelings. However, Charlton,Scunthorpe & Blackburn, where we may have deserved a point at least from those games, things would look a bit brighter.
People will argue about things off the pitch & dare I say our expectations, but it could be that this has filtered on to the team. I don't see lack of effort, but do see the same, mainly individual, mistakes being made. I think DC has enough about him to keep us in this division, but without the investment on & off the field I can't see us being a force to be reconed with anytime soon.

Maybe you need a better and trustworthy person to deal with. Sorry, I don’t do the item you talk of 😂😂😂

Yes, we have had some bad seasons with our away form. This current lot are just too soft. The manager also could do with studying how teams like Neil Warnock's or Moyes'  defend when they play away - discipline, organisation, aggression and a desire to not let players have time in and around the box. 

Fortunately, Ive only been to one away game - Shrewsbury - and I was shocked how The Shrews so easily sliced through us - they didn't really lay siege to our goal but they picked us off with good movement, pace and a desire to get in on the end of their attacks. If we are just going to let them do things and stand off them it's no hope.

I think it has basically been said by him & SH that is the case.
Nothing wrong with looking back at happier times as a supporter KP, when we went to the Conf, I think I discussed every game I went to at Eastville every time I saw my kids/ grandchildren that summer, I was fearful I would never see us back up if I'm honest, it was like football had died & I could never watch a game ever again. Then someone I worked with asked me in all seriousness if I would now be going to Ashton Gate.......well luckily he has just woken from his coma & looks like he will be out of intensive care by the end of the year😀. 
Merry Christmas to you too KP, and I hope 2018 brings you better health.

Sorry my dear but I would not like to live near you in those areas so you can keep your rooms for yourself and your ted mates