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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jan 20, 2018 19:54:07 GMT
Great day at the mem. I thought Bradford were made to look average by a great Rovers display. Broadbent Harrison, Sinclair, Sercombe had a great day. I thought Bola played well too and Lines played a lot better. Thought Gafney didn't have a great day. Great entertainment, end to end stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 19:55:31 GMT
I don't think he did anything to warrant a booking. Just came across as a right tosser as no reason for him to to cup his ear, he'd not been getting any stick as far as I recall? He certainly got plenty after though!! Doesn't persistent fouling warrant a card, pretty sure Harrison has got cards in the past after just 3 or 4 fouls, the last push on Locks looked for a time it had left him with a serious injury. My response was to the point being raised that he should be booked for incitement. I don't think he did anything there to warrant a card but it was classless and unnecessary. Whether he deserved a yellow for other offences is a different matter.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 20, 2018 20:02:09 GMT
Players get all sorts of dogs abuse off fans and then people want players booked for cupping their ear??
Bloody hell, whatever next?
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Post by madgas on Jan 20, 2018 20:03:41 GMT
Players get all sorts of dogs abuse off fans and then people want players booked for cupping their ear?? Bloody hell, whatever next? Think the point is - he’d had no abuse...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 20:04:38 GMT
Yeah I don't know what people are complaining about, the way it was reported on here it was like the most unjust decision ever so I was quite surprised to see it on TV where it was the literal opposite of ball to hand. In real time it looks like the Rovers player puts his hand on the ball to stop a cross going in the box. I'm not sure a slip comes into it, or at least I could certainly not blame the ref for only seeing the hand come down and stop the ball. I can absolutely understand why he gave it and I would be fuming if Rovers didn't get a penalty in similar circumstances. Thankfully whether it was or it wasn't is immaterial to the result. I think it was mostly the shock as it just comes out of the blue, with no real footballing cause and effect. But, as you say, definitely a foul under the rules. Fwiw, we had an opposing defender dive on the ball and lay on it deliberately, with (imo) a bit of arm contact, earlier this season and that wasn't given, as anything. Is it "definitely a foul under the rules"? I thought the only law regarding handball was that it has to be deliberate? I would genuinely be interested to know if the rules have changed or a directive has been issued that justified the refs decision. At the time (from the dribuild) I had no idea why a pen had been given, thought it must have been a shirt pull or something. It was only after getting home I watched it back a good number of times - even though it didn't matter in the end I still couldn't understand the decision and thought the officials, linesman in particular were poor yet again.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 20, 2018 20:05:40 GMT
Players get all sorts of dogs abuse off fans and then people want players booked for cupping their ear?? Bloody hell, whatever next? Think the point is - he’d had no abuse... That just makes him a bellend then. Still no need to book him.
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Post by madgas on Jan 20, 2018 20:06:45 GMT
Think the point is - he’d had no abuse... That just makes him a bellend then. Still no need to book him. I’d agree.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 20:08:59 GMT
Think the point is - he’d had no abuse... That just makes him a bellend then. Still no need to book him. Exactly
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Post by Okebournegas on Jan 20, 2018 20:09:37 GMT
Well played by the boys today , was definitely a penalty although a bit soft. But everything else was great. Caught up with some mates , few pints , and can I say yet again the sausage rolls are bloody lovely ! Never used to eat at the mem , but I've been converted! Keep it up boys utg !!!
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Post by Okebournegas on Jan 20, 2018 20:13:24 GMT
Players get all sorts of dogs abuse off fans and then people want players booked for cupping their ear?? Bloody hell, whatever next? I agree, I love it when the opposing players give us sh** back , it makes more amusing.
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Post by lmgas on Jan 20, 2018 20:14:09 GMT
He should have been booked. What's worse? Taking your shirt off to celebrate a goal or running towards the opposition fans and inciting them?!! Definitely should have been booked for incitement. Hopefully the referees assessor made a note of that. Who's laughing now Wykey!!! (Btw you can leave Lockyer's pocket now) If you want to see some incitement then watch the Leeds Millwall highlights!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 20, 2018 20:15:49 GMT
I think it was mostly the shock as it just comes out of the blue, with no real footballing cause and effect. But, as you say, definitely a foul under the rules. Fwiw, we had an opposing defender dive on the ball and lay on it deliberately, with (imo) a bit of arm contact, earlier this season and that wasn't given, as anything. Is it "definitely a foul under the rules"? I thought the only law regarding handball was that it has to be deliberate? I would genuinely be interested to know if the rules have changed or a directive has been issued that justified the refs decision. At the time (from the dribuild) I had no idea why a pen had been given, thought it must have been a shirt pull or something. It was only after getting home I watched it back a good number of times - even though it didn't matter in the end I still couldn't understand the decision and thought the officials, linesman in particular were poor yet again. Maybe I should have said, definitely a foul under current interpretation and precedent. Almost no handballs are deliberate. Not sure why they keep that in the rules, coz it's meaningless.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 20:22:48 GMT
I think it was mostly the shock as it just comes out of the blue, with no real footballing cause and effect. But, as you say, definitely a foul under the rules. Fwiw, we had an opposing defender dive on the ball and lay on it deliberately, with (imo) a bit of arm contact, earlier this season and that wasn't given, as anything. Is it "definitely a foul under the rules"? I thought the only law regarding handball was that it has to be deliberate? I would genuinely be interested to know if the rules have changed or a directive has been issued that justified the refs decision. At the time (from the dribuild) I had no idea why a pen had been given, thought it must have been a shirt pull or something. It was only after getting home I watched it back a good number of times - even though it didn't matter in the end I still couldn't understand the decision and thought the officials, linesman in particular were poor yet again. In real time it could be argued that it looked deliberate, without the benefit of replays the player looks like he is doing the old 'put your hand on the ball to stop it and quickly take a free kick' movement. I don't know if this is the law but just my own interpretation is that if the ball is going into the box and potentially creating a chance if a player puts his arm in the way and stops the ball (ie not ball to hand) therefore stopping a chance then the opposition has every right to a penalty in my view. I even think if a player slips and this happens then it is simply bad luck for the defending side. The emphasis should always be on rewarding the attacking side imo apart from incidences of close range ball to hand.
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Post by gasman on Jan 20, 2018 20:30:47 GMT
Hope everyone sending lovely twitter messages to wyke Dam knobhead
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Post by Russgas on Jan 20, 2018 20:32:28 GMT
Definitely should have been booked for incitement. Hopefully the referees assessor made a note of that. Who's laughing now Wykey!!! (Btw you can leave Lockyer's pocket now) If you want to see some incitement then watch the Leeds Millwall highlights! Wow just watched it. What a game.
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Post by devonblue on Jan 20, 2018 20:38:58 GMT
Brilliant - a bit of controversy, great atmosphere, a superb goal, comeback and 3 points. Love it UTG
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 20, 2018 20:52:08 GMT
Just got back, a great game. Agree with most that’s been said and imo any player could have been MOM. After we realised that Bradford were bang average we went for it and thought we were the best team. For a team with money to spend, who’ve brought in a few players they weren’t very good. And their manager was out thought by DC. Sat at the far end of the Dribuild so couldn’t see the penalty to make a judgement. After HT they were never in it and RG and EH pulled their defence all over the place creating a lot of space for midfield to run into. I bet SS is still running around annoying someone somewhere!! Tom Broadbent was very good, for a large man he’s very good on the ball and brought the ball out several times and looked assured. Good to have extended his contract. Tom L distributed the ball from defence better and created lots of possession for the midfield. First time I’ve seen Bola from the start and after a hesitant first half was excellent in second half. Great save in second half by Smith esp holding onto it with their forwards there. LS was always a threat and deserved his goal and could have had others. Two things that really annoyed, McCall spent nearly all the first half on the pitch or on the touch line and took no notice of the fourth official who spoke to him several times. How does he get away with it? And we had two free kicks at the tent end and each time the ref paced out the 10 mettrs. Their defence wasn’t the full distance back, the ref asked them to go back, they refused so he just put the line where they were! Pathetic, perhaps we could refuse to do what the ref asked. Well done D.C. and the team completely outplayed a team costing a lot more but who seemed a bit disinterested. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 20:52:43 GMT
I don't think he did anything to warrant a booking. Just came across as a right tosser as no reason for him to to cup his ear, he'd not been getting any stick as far as I recall? He certainly got plenty after though!! Doesn't persistent fouling warrant a card, pretty sure Harrison has got cards in the past after just 3 or 4 fouls, the last push on Locks looked for a time it had left him with a serious injury. He clearly pushed Lockyer in the back twice in the first half when the ball was thirty yards away and the Ref not looking. He was getting plenty of stick for this from the WE. I saw the push on Lockyer from a long way off in the West enclosure but luckily the Ref saw it and blew up straight away. Tom was limping slightly on his way off at the end, hope its nothing to serious.
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Post by clockendgas on Jan 20, 2018 20:53:11 GMT
All in all a good day at the office, thought we played well and fought for everything. Nice to hear a few older songs second half and always lovely to see abit of karma returned on that cocky prick, charlie whats the score? happy days.
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Post by socrates on Jan 20, 2018 20:55:05 GMT
Great day at the mem. I thought Bradford were made to look average by a great Rovers display. Broadbent Harrison, Sinclair, Sercombe had a great day. I thought Bola played well too and Lines played a lot better. Thought Gafney didn't have a great day. Great entertainment, end to end stuff. Rory was good on the ball everytime he got it for the first touch or two then his final ball/ decision let him down, not like Rory I can’t remember him having many bad games for us at home but he kept going and battling away and he’s a real handful even when he’s not at his best. I suggested subbing him just before he was subbed but if I’m honest when I saw Nichols was his replacement I’d rather he’d stayed on, someone needs to kick that boy up the arse it’s like watching a youth trainee in an adults game he was pathetic yet again. I want him to do well but he just doesn’t seem to do anything with any conviction and his movement is appalling, when he does make a run it’s normslly towards a defender not away from one.
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