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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 20:56:14 GMT
Players get all sorts of dogs abuse off fans and then people want players booked for cupping their ear?? Bloody hell, whatever next? Think the point is - he’d had no abuse... Rightly got plenty from the WE in the first half for his persistent pushing, especially when Lockyer was shoved to the ground from behind with the ball thirty yards away. |
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 20, 2018 21:02:27 GMT
I thought Rory played ok, always kept them busy and kept possession well, bringing others in. His final ball can let him down but I’d play him at the moment. He always puts in a shift and never lets us down. DCs reaction to him when he came off tells it all.
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Post by aghast on Jan 20, 2018 21:05:47 GMT
I'd love to see the comments on here if a Bradford defender had slammed his hand directly down into the ball and got away with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 21:31:40 GMT
Is it "definitely a foul under the rules"? I thought the only law regarding handball was that it has to be deliberate? I would genuinely be interested to know if the rules have changed or a directive has been issued that justified the refs decision. At the time (from the dribuild) I had no idea why a pen had been given, thought it must have been a shirt pull or something. It was only after getting home I watched it back a good number of times - even though it didn't matter in the end I still couldn't understand the decision and thought the officials, linesman in particular were poor yet again. In real time it could be argued that it looked deliberate, without the benefit of replays the player looks like he is doing the old 'put your hand on the ball to stop it and quickly take a free kick' movement. I don't know if this is the law but just my own interpretation is that if the ball is going into the box and potentially creating a chance if a player puts his arm in the way and stops the ball (ie not ball to hand) therefore stopping a chance then the opposition has every right to a penalty in my view. I even think if a player slips and this happens then it is simply bad luck for the defending side. The emphasis should always be on rewarding the attacking side imo apart from incidences of close range ball to hand. Surely the same set of rules still apply wherever on the pitch they occur? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 21:54:18 GMT
Fantastic 2nd half with a terrific atmosphere,thats why we go to football. For me the pick of a great set of performances came the midfield 3 of sercombe,lines and sinclair who were outstanding imo. Everyone else played well though i thought partington struggled defensively against their winger at times even though he used the ball very well and scored. I thought Ollie Clarke had a MoM game. We all see different games,i thought there were 11 good performances its just that for me in particular sercombe,lines and sinclair shone brightest. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 20, 2018 22:03:56 GMT
Is it "definitely a foul under the rules"? I thought the only law regarding handball was that it has to be deliberate? I would genuinely be interested to know if the rules have changed or a directive has been issued that justified the refs decision. At the time (from the dribuild) I had no idea why a pen had been given, thought it must have been a shirt pull or something. It was only after getting home I watched it back a good number of times - even though it didn't matter in the end I still couldn't understand the decision and thought the officials, linesman in particular were poor yet again. In real time it could be argued that it looked deliberate, without the benefit of replays the player looks like he is doing the old 'put your hand on the ball to stop it and quickly take a free kick' movement. I don't know if this is the law but just my own interpretation is that if the ball is going into the box and potentially creating a chance if a player puts his arm in the way and stops the ball (ie not ball to hand) therefore stopping a chance then the opposition has every right to a penalty in my view. I even think if a player slips and this happens then it is simply bad luck for the defending side. The emphasis should always be on rewarding the attacking side imo apart from incidences of close range ball to hand. But OC hardly stopped the attacker as Parts had already won the ball, if OC had slipped and blocked or knocked the ball you have to say he should have been more careful but it seemed he just put his hand on the ball as he fell but didn't really gain any real advantage, it was less of a pen than the one Wenger is sat in the stands for at WBA! |
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Post by berhill4 on Jan 20, 2018 22:10:26 GMT
Broadbent not the worry, its the rest of em DC saying TB can bring the ball out of defence better than Sweeney, not sure if the last home game supported that view. Well clearly you didn't watch the game that close did you by far the best player on the pitch until he went off !! |
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jan 20, 2018 22:12:26 GMT
Great day at the mem. I thought Bradford were made to look average by a great Rovers display. Broadbent Harrison, Sinclair, Sercombe had a great day. I thought Bola played well too and Lines played a lot better. Thought Gafney didn't have a great day. Great entertainment, end to end stuff. Rory was good on the ball everytime he got it for the first touch or two then his final ball/ decision let him down, not like Rory I can’t remember him having many bad games for us at home but he kept going and battling away and he’s a real handful even when he’s not at his best. I suggested subbing him just before he was subbed but if I’m honest when I saw Nichols was his replacement I’d rather he’d stayed on, someone needs to kick that boy up the arse it’s like watching a youth trainee in an adults game he was pathetic yet again. I want him to do well but he just doesn’t seem to do anything with any conviction and his movement is appalling, when he does make a run it’s normslly towards a defender not away from one. Agree ~ can't fault his work rate but imo he spent too much time out of the box. |
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 21, 2018 0:17:33 GMT
Blimey, I thought this Forum could give it some. Just been on the Bradford site and they are really angry at their owners, also foreign who apparently refuse to sign players or give the managers any finance. And they’re in the play-offs! Made this place look very harmonious. I’d post a link but can’t do that stuff! Sorry.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 21, 2018 0:21:27 GMT
Blimey, I thought this Forum could give it some. Just been on the Bradford site and they are really angry at their owners, also foreign who apparently refuse to sign players or give the managers any finance. And they’re in the play-offs! Made this place look very harmonious. I’d post a link but can’t do that stuff! Sorry. UTG! £199 a season ticket Free coach travel to today's game In the play off places What have the owners ever done for them? |
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 21, 2018 0:23:27 GMT
At those prices perhaps they really haven’t got any money! 😀
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 21, 2018 9:29:20 GMT
Blimey, I thought this Forum could give it some. Just been on the Bradford site and they are really angry at their owners, also foreign who apparently refuse to sign players or give the managers any finance. And they’re in the play-offs! Made this place look very harmonious. I’d post a link but can’t do that stuff! Sorry. UTG! £199 a season ticket Free coach travel to today's game In the play off places What have the owners ever done for them? I'd swap a top 2 place for free travel to one away game! |
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Post by LJG on Jan 21, 2018 9:58:51 GMT
Great day at the mem. I thought Bradford were made to look average by a great Rovers display. Broadbent Harrison, Sinclair, Sercombe had a great day. I thought Bola played well too and Lines played a lot better. Thought Gafney didn't have a great day. Great entertainment, end to end stuff. Rory was good on the ball everytime he got it for the first touch or two then his final ball/ decision let him down, not like Rory I can’t remember him having many bad games for us at home but he kept going and battling away and he’s a real handful even when he’s not at his best. I suggested subbing him just before he was subbed but if I’m honest when I saw Nichols was his replacement I’d rather he’d stayed on, someone needs to kick that boy up the arse it’s like watching a youth trainee in an adults game he was pathetic yet again. I want him to do well but he just doesn’t seem to do anything with any conviction and his movement is appalling, when he does make a run it’s normslly towards a defender not away from one. Nicholls is becoming a real worry. You could tell from the slumped angle of his shoulders when he came on that he wasn't going to do anything yesterday and he had a nailed on opportunity that Ellis had to to pick up and make the most of because TN bottled it. Apparently he's a confidence player and his confidence must be very low. He wanted out of the Posh because he felt bullied by the fans. So he seems like a sensitive soul. I think it'll take all of DC's best Jedi mind trick motivational psychology to get him going. |
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Post by oldgas on Jan 21, 2018 10:24:06 GMT
Rory was good on the ball everytime he got it for the first touch or two then his final ball/ decision let him down, not like Rory I can’t remember him having many bad games for us at home but he kept going and battling away and he’s a real handful even when he’s not at his best. I suggested subbing him just before he was subbed but if I’m honest when I saw Nichols was his replacement I’d rather he’d stayed on, someone needs to kick that boy up the arse it’s like watching a youth trainee in an adults game he was pathetic yet again. I want him to do well but he just doesn’t seem to do anything with any conviction and his movement is appalling, when he does make a run it’s normslly towards a defender not away from one. Nicholls is becoming a real worry. You could tell from the slumped angle of his shoulders when he came on that he wasn't going to do anything yesterday and he had a nailed on opportunity that Ellis had to to pick up and make the most of because TN bottled it. Apparently he's a confidence player and his confidence must be very low. He wanted out of the Posh because he felt bullied by the fans. So he seems like a sensitive soul. I think it'll take all of DC's best Jedi mind trick motivational psychology to get him going. I think you're correct and have hit the nail as far as TN is concerned. The probem is, it's gone on too long and perhaps he never will suceed with us. It may be an idea to see if we can loan him to a league 2 side, perhaps Exeter, in an attempt to bolster his confidence. You never know, it may lead to a player swap, which could be to our advantage. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 10:33:46 GMT
Rory was good on the ball everytime he got it for the first touch or two then his final ball/ decision let him down, not like Rory I can’t remember him having many bad games for us at home but he kept going and battling away and he’s a real handful even when he’s not at his best. I suggested subbing him just before he was subbed but if I’m honest when I saw Nichols was his replacement I’d rather he’d stayed on, someone needs to kick that boy up the arse it’s like watching a youth trainee in an adults game he was pathetic yet again. I want him to do well but he just doesn’t seem to do anything with any conviction and his movement is appalling, when he does make a run it’s normslly towards a defender not away from one. Nicholls is becoming a real worry. You could tell from the slumped angle of his shoulders when he came on that he wasn't going to do anything yesterday and he had a nailed on opportunity that Ellis had to to pick up and make the most of because TN bottled it. Apparently he's a confidence player and his confidence must be very low. He wanted out of the Posh because he felt bullied by the fans. So he seems like a sensitive soul. I think it'll take all of DC's best Jedi mind trick motivational psychology to get him going. Where is the information available to view that he "wanted out at posh because he felt bullied by the fans"? |
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 21, 2018 10:53:34 GMT
Funny moment today when I thought their player was kicking out at Ellis and we should have got a pen ! Had to laugh when they both got up with their laces tangled together ! Guy behind me just didn't see the funny side to it at all ! never seen that at a football match. went from 5,000 people screaming for something (foul? get on with it?) to 4,999 people laughing in a split second. hilarious. |
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 21, 2018 10:57:13 GMT
It was funny but the one thing about it that amazed me was the ref was so engrossed in what was going on he took his eye off the game for a good few seconds and it was being played behind him. Great game , crap ref. Would have been interesting if we had scored (I think we shot wide?) as Bradford and the ref seemed to stop! Would have been on Question of Sport in a few years. True. was weird but can't see any reason (or rule...) why the ref would/could have stopped the game. if it wasn't a foul, and it wasn't a head injury, you just play on I presume. An act of God  |
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 21, 2018 11:02:46 GMT
He should have been booked. What's worse? Taking your shirt off to celebrate a goal or running towards the opposition fans and inciting them?!! Not impressed with him at all. To me he is just a big hardworking lump. No real skill and his level is lg1. A glorified Akinde no more no less. TBF that's why they bought him. I think it's obvious what you get when you buy someone like that. One dimensional, but sadly effective sometimes. karma got him in the end. Doing that in front of the most raucous part of the ground, when there is no history between the clubs, and no history of him as a player and our club, was frankly pathetic and just sums up his character I guess. |
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Post by cockergas on Jan 21, 2018 11:14:44 GMT
Nicholls is becoming a real worry. You could tell from the slumped angle of his shoulders when he came on that he wasn't going to do anything yesterday and he had a nailed on opportunity that Ellis had to to pick up and make the most of because TN bottled it. Apparently he's a confidence player and his confidence must be very low. He wanted out of the Posh because he felt bullied by the fans. So he seems like a sensitive soul. I think it'll take all of DC's best Jedi mind trick motivational psychology to get him going. Where is the information available to view that he "wanted out at posh because he felt bullied by the fans"? |
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Post by cockergas on Jan 21, 2018 11:36:22 GMT
To be fair to Nichols, and no disrespect meant to anyone on the forum but he gets written off before he has even joined the game. The negativity around the ground when he is about to come on would surely affect the performance, indeed anyone's performance. Is it just coincidence that at Blackpool last weekend we had our best spell when he came on having replaced Harrison, certainly less of a hostile reaction to him when we are away, we get a good showing and a performance to confirm we have a good player who needs our encouragement
He is wearing the blue and white quarters and should be encouraged, positively supported, applauded. we should be getting behind him and not getting on his back every time something he try's doesn't come off, surely we are better than that. Mensah joins the fray and there is a massive cheer, Nichols joins to groans, which player is likely to start in a positive frame of mind.
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