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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 26, 2018 21:01:25 GMT
Perhaps because they are being marginalised and discriminated against? In an ideal world they could forget about being part of a different group and feel welcome as a supporter but the mindless actions of a small few in society sadly prevent it. This means they can't "just be supporters". The aim of these groups is to make supporters feel more inclusive and supported. Nothing wrong in that surely? the thing is people miss the point with these groups ,why do they fell the need to announce to everyone oh look at me why are they special are they so vain or looking for a response from some who don't agree with their life style, rather than just get on with it as others have said ,before you lot start chucking the latest phobic buzz words around,just because someone doesn't agree with their life style choice it doesn't mean anything ,it simply means they don't agree. So what wrong with just getting on with people , tbh i don't need to know what your orientation is i will speak to anyone and everyone. Safety in numbers. When youve have been beaten up a few times for no reason you could forgive a person wanting to stick near people they know won't do that. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 26, 2018 21:03:03 GMT
Oh, and they don't feel the need to announce anything, but unless the club or a group of people speak up and say "it's ok, you are welcome here" how are they supposed to know?
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Post by inee on Apr 26, 2018 21:25:37 GMT
Come on hugo that's a pretty weak reason, we all know people who get beat up for no reason are you implying gays or lesbians(i thought that stereotyping went away years ago)are weak as the opposite is true ,so your trying to tell me that gays and lesbians in a group will not fight amongst themselves or will jump in on anyone who starts the world doesn't tick that way some will stand their ground other will not get involved same as everyone else,how do they know they are not welcome? more importantly who has said they are not welcome. nobody told me and many others they wern't welcome ,we just turn't up and go to know people.
like someone else said if everyone starts a group there will be hundreds, which ends in less mixing.
who told the gay or lesbian supporter who already attend our games that they were or wern't welcome
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Post by madgas on Apr 26, 2018 22:43:33 GMT
Football has a LGBT issue. It is not reflective of society.
2% of the United Kingdom have officially identified themselves as part of LGBT community. Yet, within 92 clubs, there isn’t an outwardly gay player.
Of course no one has said that “x isn’t welcome” but that doesn’t mean barriers don’t exist for members of the LGBT community. Having role models within the game is important. Having representation is important.
Those who have a slight issue with this are frankly worryingly intolerant.
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Post by madgas on Apr 26, 2018 22:53:48 GMT
The idea that scooby finds waving a flag at football match is some form of perverse flaunting is staggering...
It’s literally why as fans we buy scarfs. To illustrate our pride in our team.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Apr 26, 2018 23:06:03 GMT
The idea that scooby finds waving a flag at football match is some form of perverse flaunting is staggering... It’s literally why as fans we buy scarfs. To illustrate our pride in our team. I think using the word pride in this section is ironic |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 27, 2018 4:42:04 GMT
Come on hugo that's a pretty weak reason, we all know people who get beat up for no reason are you implying gays or lesbians(i thought that stereotyping went away years ago)are weak as the opposite is true ,so your trying to tell me that gays and lesbians in a group will not fight amongst themselves or will jump in on anyone who starts the world doesn't tick that way some will stand their ground other will not get involved same as everyone else,how do they know they are not welcome? more importantly who has said they are not welcome. nobody told me and many others they wern't welcome ,we just turn't up and go to know people. like someone else said if everyone starts a group there will be hundreds, which ends in less mixing. who told the gay or lesbian supporter who already attend our games that they were or wern't welcome Yeah, sure ok. Well done. You have all the reasons all neatly wrapped up. |
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Post by William Wilson on Apr 27, 2018 6:49:07 GMT
Oh, and they don't feel the need to announce anything, Some do, Hugo. Quite honestly, I`m fed up with Nobby e mailing me all those photos. Mind you, he must be earning a good wage. Those Christine Dior dresses don`t come cheap. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 7:06:09 GMT
Oh, and they don't feel the need to announce anything, Some do, Hugo. Quite honestly, I`m fed up with Nobby e mailing me all those photos. Mind you, he must be earning a good wage. Those Christine Dior dresses don`t come cheap. Who dafuq is 'Christine Dior'? Have you been buying those cheap Chinese copies again ? |
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Post by countygroundhotel on Apr 27, 2018 8:04:23 GMT
Football has a LGBT issue. It is not reflective of society. 2% of the United Kingdom have officially identified themselves as part of LGBT community. Yet, within 92 clubs, there isn’t an outwardly gay player. Of course no one has said that “x isn’t welcome” but that doesn’t mean barriers don’t exist for members of the LGBT community. Having role models within the game is important. Having representation is important. Those who have a slight issue with this are frankly worryingly intolerant. Well if there are gay footballers then it's there issue if they choose to come out or not, just like it's anyone else's right to announce their sexuality. Odd that if they don't choose to come out it's somehow the fault of other people and not down to their own choice. Next the inference will be that gay footballers can't think for themselves, which personally I'm pretty sure they can |
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Post by William Wilson on Apr 27, 2018 8:27:40 GMT
Some do, Hugo. Quite honestly, I`m fed up with Nobby e mailing me all those photos. Mind you, he must be earning a good wage. Those Christine Dior dresses don`t come cheap. Who dafuq is 'Christine Dior'? Have you been buying those cheap Chinese copies again ? They`re all I can afford, mate. I`m hoping to treat myself to a nice little Versace number, that I can wear when I cheer on the Bears, next season. |
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Post by tommym9 on Apr 27, 2018 8:30:53 GMT
There are two reasons I can see for gay people forming a group to go to a football match. The first one is sadly protection. You're less likely to be abused physically or verbally if you're in a group.
Secondly having like minded people to go with is nice.
If anyone thinks LGBTQ people are equal nowadays could do with giving this a listen:
(In case the link get stripped search for 'All the little things tedx panti) on youtube/google/bing/whatever
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Apr 27, 2018 8:31:11 GMT
There should be only 2 groups at football.
Home fans and away fans.
Football has nought to do with politics or human rights or LGBT.
It’s about football and nothing else for 90+ mins.
I’m off for a straight pride march to the shops.
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Post by William Wilson on Apr 27, 2018 8:37:21 GMT
Football has a LGBT issue. It is not reflective of society. 2% of the United Kingdom have officially identified themselves as part of LGBT community. Yet, within 92 clubs, there isn’t an outwardly gay player. Of course no one has said that “x isn’t welcome” but that doesn’t mean barriers don’t exist for members of the LGBT community. Having role models within the game is important. Having representation is important. Those who have a slight issue with this are frankly worryingly intolerant. If you`re so tolerant, Madgas, then why don`t you tolerate the views of people who are less comfortable with homosexuality, than yourself. You`re no different to anyone else on here; you tolerate what you want, and reject what you don`t. |
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Post by peterparker on Apr 27, 2018 9:01:41 GMT
There should be only 2 groups at football. Home fans and away fans. Football has nought to do with politics or human rights or LGBT. It’s about football and nothing else for 90+ mins. I’m off for a straight pride march to the shops. Thing is there are more than 2 already Home fans, away fans and the wankers that like trouble that think they are fans |
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Post by scoobydoogas on Apr 27, 2018 9:04:12 GMT
Football has a LGBT issue. It is not reflective of society. 2% of the United Kingdom have officially identified themselves as part of LGBT community. Yet, within 92 clubs, there isn’t an outwardly gay player. Of course no one has said that “x isn’t welcome” but that doesn’t mean barriers don’t exist for members of the LGBT community. Having role models within the game is important. Having representation is important. Those who have a slight issue with this are frankly worryingly intolerant. If you`re so tolerant, Madgas, then why don`t you tolerate the views of people who are less comfortable with homosexuality, than yourself. You`re no different to anyone else on here; you tolerate what you want, and reject what you don`t. You have hit the nail squarely on the head  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 9:06:36 GMT
Who dafuq is 'Christine Dior'? Have you been buying those cheap Chinese copies again ? They`re all I can afford, mate. I`m hoping to treat myself to a nice little Versace number, that I can wear when I cheer on the Bears, next season. Oh Willie, Versace is so 1990's. |
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Post by scoobydoogas on Apr 27, 2018 9:12:57 GMT
And before anyone asks about my sexuality I would like to clarify that I'm not gay but my boyfriend is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 9:20:13 GMT
And before anyone asks about my sexuality I would like to clarify that I'm not gay but my boyfriend is. Scoob - Are you Coming Out of the Doghouse? I will say that the collar you wear will go down a storm in the Bear Pit! |
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Post by midlandgas213 on Apr 27, 2018 9:20:20 GMT
the thing is people miss the point with these groups ,why do they fell the need to announce to everyone oh look at me why are they special are they so vain or looking for a response from some who don't agree with their life style, rather than just get on with it as others have said ,before you lot start chucking the latest phobic buzz words around,just because someone doesn't agree with their life style choice it doesn't mean anything ,it simply means they don't agree. So what wrong with just getting on with people , tbh i don't need to know what your orientation is i will speak to anyone and everyone. Safety in numbers. When youve have been beaten up a few times for no reason you could forgive a person wanting to stick near people they know won't do that. If you were not different to the vast majority and did not flaunt the fact and advertise it, you would not need be afraid or need to go around in groups, next they will be wanting their own rainbow stand |
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