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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 19:54:53 GMT
Can't see us signing another RB unless Leads turns down his deal. Perhaps DC is just preparing in the event that Leads decides to move on, He wouldn't want to left short if Leads decides to leave at the last minute, as of the moment in two months he won't be a BRFC player. Would DC allow him to leave it until the last minute? I doubt it - I imagine he'll be given an early deadline and if he's not signed the offer will be withdrawn and we'll move on to other targets.
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Post by axegas on May 3, 2018 19:57:00 GMT
Perhaps DC is just preparing in the event that Leads decides to move on, He wouldn't want to left short if Leads decides to leave at the last minute, as of the moment in two months he won't be a BRFC player. Would DC allow him to leave it until the last minute? I doubt it - I imagine he'll be given an early deadline and if he's not signed the offer will be withdrawn and we'll move on to other targets. Very true and I doubt he would. We probably already have the targets in mind going by what DC said on the radio, I'm rather surprised that he hasn't signed already actually.
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Post by axegas on May 3, 2018 20:00:45 GMT
These "overachieving regulars" have got us to a 10th place finish last season and a secure mid table finish this season. They have worked their socks off for this football club to get us where we are now and for me some are being a bit disrespectful of that. It's far better than the days of having underachieving and overpaid players who at best could only deliver us a mid table place in league two. Agree with your sentiments, they have worked hard for the club, but gets to a point where you need to bring better players in to go further, i think it's time to do that now. Can't disagree with that at all. I mean what clubs wouldn't want better players, right? I just think that we don't want to overhaul the squad in any drastic way as a few are calling for and instead retain some of the players that have got us this far and appreciate what they have done for us, I'm all for bringing in players that will improve us though, obviously.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 0:17:12 GMT
Everything seems to be as expected there, pretty much everyone thought we would see the back of burn, I’m a bit surprised at the decision to retain gaffney but release Moore but I suppose DC is trying to release wages to bring in another winger so it’s understandable that DC would want him to find a new club. He just hasn’t showed that consistency because he can be a good player on his day. Feel sorry for Broom, always worked hard and showed glimpses of talent in pre season, never really got a chance hopefully he finds a club that he can push on with Reading the statement on the club website implies that everyone except dan leadbitter,broom,moore and burn is still under contract so its not a case of retaining gaffney or anyone other players reported as staying at the club.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 0:22:03 GMT
Link has a list of players staying then says 1 player offered new contract. That obviously means that Gaffney is under contract so DC has no choice to retain him, unless he mutually agreed to end his contract, but why would he! Personally I think he could be useful in our squad. It could be that the contract offer was on table still for Leads - players like gaffers may have been out of contract at end of season but agreed new deals recently..... I would have expected more out of contract players given we have a tendency to go for shorter term deals nowadays No way,they always announce new contracts but not the length,all the players except leadbitter and the released ones are still under contract imo.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 0:58:29 GMT
Very pleased to see Rollin included in the retained list with the other first team players. Hopefully this means we will be seeing a lot more of him on a Saturday afternoon next season. I'm a big fan of the big guy. Would love to see him and Broadbent as a centre back pairing once they have gained more experience. We already knew rollin menayese would be here next season as he signed a new deal quite recently. A retained list is just information about whats happening with out of contract players and a reminder of the players already under contact.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 1:15:46 GMT
Thats 17 players under contract,18 if dan leadbitter signs a new deal. We also have the best of the development squad like russe and kelly pushing to breakthrough. It dosnt mean that all the contracted players will be staying at rovers
Whats striking is how many players are still under contract.
Could loyalty bite dc up the backside?
Although great pro players i dont get james clarke,rory gaffney and more controversially ollie clarke staying at the club.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 1:37:25 GMT
Gaffney, James Clarke and Tom Nichols are not good enough for a top 6 league 1 push IMO
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Post by warehamgas on May 4, 2018 5:44:51 GMT
Surprised at the reaction to some of our retained players. All those saying that Rory should have been let go obviously don’t understand the idea of a contract. You can only “release” players whose contract is up. If they have another year to go then you can “agree” a termination where the last year is paid up in a lump sum which is a mutual agreement or you make them available for transfer. You can’t just let them go. Those at the end of their contract you can eg. Burn, Broome and Moore. DC has cleared out what he can so let’s hope he gets the 3/4 in to improve the team. I suspect he will be going through Tommy Ws list as we speak! UTG!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 4, 2018 5:48:09 GMT
Surprised at the reaction to some of our retained players. All those saying that Rory should have been let go obviously don’t understand the idea of a contract. You can only “release” players whose contract is up. If they have another year to go then you can “agree” a termination where the last year is paid up in a lump sum which is a mutual agreement or you make them available for transfer. You can’t just let them go. Those at the end of their contract you can eg. Burn, Broome and Moore. DC has cleared out what he can so let’s hope he gets the 3/4 in to improve the team. I suspect he will be going through Tommy Ws list as we speak! UTG! Same every season mate. I remember a lot couldn't understand us keeping Moore and letting Montano go, but the facts were that Moore had a year left and Monty had ran out of his contract. I really think we could get a fee for Gaffney too, potentially.
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Post by warehamgas on May 4, 2018 6:06:42 GMT
True. RG could do a very good job for someone in League 2. Done well for us but if we want to push on to the playoffs or better we probably need something a bit better as a regular. RG will still be good squad player if he stays, which he will as he’s under contract! 😉 UTG!
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Post by Gassy on May 4, 2018 6:44:22 GMT
Agree completely with the released list. Like warehamgas has said, why don't people get that those under contract can't leave unless we pay them off?
Glad Leads was offered a new contract as well, after a shaky start to the season, he was playing superbly before picking up an injury.
However, not sure he'll sign though - i fully expect its a 1 year deal due to injuries and probably not a huge wage
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Post by axegas on May 4, 2018 7:20:59 GMT
Everything seems to be as expected there, pretty much everyone thought we would see the back of burn, I’m a bit surprised at the decision to retain gaffney but release Moore but I suppose DC is trying to release wages to bring in another winger so it’s understandable that DC would want him to find a new club. He just hasn’t showed that consistency because he can be a good player on his day. Feel sorry for Broom, always worked hard and showed glimpses of talent in pre season, never really got a chance hopefully he finds a club that he can push on with Reading the statement on the club website implies that everyone except dan leadbitter,broom,moore and burn is still under contract so its not a case of retaining gaffney or anyone other players reported as staying at the club. Also from last nights interview "Just because they’re still in contract it doesn’t necessarily mean I still want them, but I’m not going to publicise that.” Pretty much confirms that one or two more contracted players might be moving on and from DC’s comments on gaffney and him saying that’s an area of the field he wants to improve, gaffney is more than likely to be one of them.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 4, 2018 7:22:20 GMT
Surprised at the reaction to some of our retained players. All those saying that Rory should have been let go obviously don’t understand the idea of a contract. You can only “release” players whose contract is up. If they have another year to go then you can “agree” a termination where the last year is paid up in a lump sum which is a mutual agreement or you make them available for transfer. You can’t just let them go. Those at the end of their contract you can eg. Burn, Broome and Moore. DC has cleared out what he can so let’s hope he gets the 3/4 in to improve the team. I suspect he will be going through Tommy Ws list as we speak! UTG! Not sure we ever saw a list of players in and out of contract this summer, hence that's why some fans are surprised that the likes of JC & Gaffers are all staying, although DC's as much as said all probably all 16 won't be here next season. I'm not really sure how the likes of Gaffers & JC blagged either new 2 yr contracts last summer or contract extensions recently.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 4, 2018 7:40:17 GMT
Surprised at the reaction to some of our retained players. All those saying that Rory should have been let go obviously don’t understand the idea of a contract. You can only “release” players whose contract is up. If they have another year to go then you can “agree” a termination where the last year is paid up in a lump sum which is a mutual agreement or you make them available for transfer. You can’t just let them go. Those at the end of their contract you can eg. Burn, Broome and Moore. DC has cleared out what he can so let’s hope he gets the 3/4 in to improve the team. I suspect he will be going through Tommy Ws list as we speak! UTG! That's not actually true. You can't release players whose contracts are up. If their contracts are up they're gone. It's nothing to do with the club, because they're not contracted. You don't have to pay up a contracted player's full contract to let them go. You just agree with them the terms of the release.
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Post by warehamgas on May 4, 2018 9:02:29 GMT
Surprised at the reaction to some of our retained players. All those saying that Rory should have been let go obviously don’t understand the idea of a contract. You can only “release” players whose contract is up. If they have another year to go then you can “agree” a termination where the last year is paid up in a lump sum which is a mutual agreement or you make them available for transfer. You can’t just let them go. Those at the end of their contract you can eg. Burn, Broome and Moore. DC has cleared out what he can so let’s hope he gets the 3/4 in to improve the team. I suspect he will be going through Tommy Ws list as we speak! UTG! That's not actually true. You can't release players whose contracts are up. If their contracts are up they're gone. It's nothing to do with the club, because they're not contracted. You don't have to pay up a contracted player's full contract to let them go. You just agree with them the terms of the release.Agree AF, but that’s what I said isn’t it? Theterms of release will include some kind of lump sum, usually.😉 UTG!
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on May 4, 2018 9:39:06 GMT
Surprised at the reaction to some of our retained players. All those saying that Rory should have been let go obviously don’t understand the idea of a contract. You can only “release” players whose contract is up. If they have another year to go then you can “agree” a termination where the last year is paid up in a lump sum which is a mutual agreement or you make them available for transfer. You can’t just let them go. Those at the end of their contract you can eg. Burn, Broome and Moore. DC has cleared out what he can so let’s hope he gets the 3/4 in to improve the team. I suspect he will be going through Tommy Ws list as we speak! UTG! Not sure we ever saw a list of players in and out of contract this summer, hence that's why some fans are surprised that the likes of JC & Gaffers are all staying, although DC's as much as said all probably all 16 won't be here next season. I'm not really sure how the likes of Gaffers & JC blagged either new 2 yr contracts last summer or contract extensions recently. Could be a situation like what Oxford did with Sercombe last year and we've extended their contracts even though they'r going to leave.
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Post by kylegas on May 4, 2018 9:47:56 GMT
Is Gaffney not out of contract then? Or has e been offered one? I hoped we’d seen the last of him
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Post by rosssgb on May 4, 2018 10:08:42 GMT
Is Gaffney not out of contract then? Or has e been offered one? I hoped we’d seen the last of him He must have 12 months left on his current deal, we should look for a fee even if it isn't 6 figures. Alternatively I'd keep him as a squad player, judging purely on stats vs Nichols I don't think anyone can justify keeping Nichols over Gaffney if we had the option to offload both. If we want to push top 6 we need to be looking to offload both. If my maths is correct.... combine Nichols and Gaffney's total minutes on the pitch this season it comes to around 48 full games, returning 9 goals (1 goal every 5.3 games). Compare that to Ellis who has played minutes equivalent to 41 games returning 14 goals. Give or take, practically twice as good a return (1 goal every 2.9 games). I'm worried a bigger fish will come in for Ellis - had that ratio of goals to games been any closer to a goal every 2 games I'd be almost certain we'd lose him.
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Post by Marshy on May 4, 2018 10:23:35 GMT
Is Gaffney not out of contract then? Or has e been offered one? I hoped we’d seen the last of him Why is your wife a bit sore? I know mine is!
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