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Post by axegas on Jun 17, 2018 17:27:39 GMT
Yes, offload a keeper on this basis of the highlights of one game where he got no help from his defenders. For what it’s worth I actually thought Lyle Taylor was decent that day as poor as our defending was. If you went to a lot of games last season you would have noticed how Shakey smith is...I didn’t get mean to get rid of him after one game! Yeah I went to a lot and I see potential in him. His aerial ability and communication isn’t exactly great but I wouldn’t call him shaky, he’s good at kicking and a fantastic shot stopper. He was much better in the second part of the season when he regained his place from Slocombe than in the first when he was pretty poor. We’ve got two decent keepers for this level and the competition between the two will push them on, I can’t see DC bringing in another one despite what he said as I think there are more pressing areas of the team to improve first.
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Post by markczgas on Jun 17, 2018 21:57:53 GMT
You mean this game? Yes I saw it and saw him miss an open goal and looked most unlikely to score out of all their attackers...one good back heel ...watching it back Adam Smith needs to be off loaded Yes, offload a keeper on this basis of the highlights of one game where he got no help from his defenders. For what it’s worth I actually thought Lyle Taylor was decent that day as poor as our defending was. Smith isn't L1 standard I agree with Twerton.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 17, 2018 22:27:14 GMT
Yes, offload a keeper on this basis of the highlights of one game where he got no help from his defenders. For what it’s worth I actually thought Lyle Taylor was decent that day as poor as our defending was. Smith isn't L1 standard I agree with Twerton. Wasn't Smith PotY at Northampton last season?
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jun 17, 2018 23:21:58 GMT
Yes, offload a keeper on this basis of the highlights of one game where he got no help from his defenders. For what it’s worth I actually thought Lyle Taylor was decent that day as poor as our defending was. Smith isn't L1 standard I agree with Twerton. Don't know why we bother employing Tommy W or coaching staff when we've got supporters who instantly know the standard of players who couldn't possibly be coached to attain a higher level of performance.
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Post by pirate on Jun 17, 2018 23:26:14 GMT
Smith isn't L1 standard I agree with Twerton. Wasn't Smith PotY at Northampton last season? No, Zander Diamond was.
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Post by twertonboy on Jun 18, 2018 2:13:14 GMT
Could be a few more weeks yet til we sign someone as Transfer market naturally very slow at the minute. Player contracts expire on June 30th so expect to see things moving much quicker in the first week of July Players still getting their salaries and will do generally until June 30th. Natural that players weigh up their options and seek the best deal. It’s after then that the balance starts to tip in clubs’ favour as players look to get sorted
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Post by markczgas on Jun 18, 2018 10:54:15 GMT
Smith isn't L1 standard I agree with Twerton. Don't know why we bother employing Tommy W or coaching staff when we've got supporters who instantly know the standard of players who couldn't possibly be coached to attain a higher level of performance. instantly ??
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jun 18, 2018 11:25:44 GMT
Don't know why we bother employing Tommy W or coaching staff when we've got supporters who instantly know the standard of players who couldn't possibly be coached to attain a higher level of performance. instantly ?? For me 23 games is not enough. Under your time frames Jason Roberts and Rickie Lambert would not have done enough for us at the level we were playing at to justify keeping them. Goalkeepers notoriously take longer to blossom into seasoned pros because mistakes for them invariably lead to goals conceded and therefore knocks to their confidence. I do not think we should be so hasty to judge this keeper won't be L1 standard or higher given the right conditions to develop.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 18, 2018 12:08:46 GMT
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Post by markczgas on Jun 18, 2018 12:52:26 GMT
For me 23 games is not enough. Under your time frames Jason Roberts and Rickie Lambert would not have done enough for us at the level we were playing at to justify keeping them. Goalkeepers notoriously take longer to blossom into seasoned pros because mistakes for them invariably lead to goals conceded and therefore knocks to their confidence. I do not think we should be so hasty to judge this keeper won't be L1 standard or higher given the right conditions to develop. It's only my opinion - think you're taking things to heart a bit. He might be young but for me his style of keeping is that of a player who is finding it hard to adapt to a fast (er) - moving game.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 18, 2018 12:57:38 GMT
For me 23 games is not enough. Under your time frames Jason Roberts and Rickie Lambert would not have done enough for us at the level we were playing at to justify keeping them. Goalkeepers notoriously take longer to blossom into seasoned pros because mistakes for them invariably lead to goals conceded and therefore knocks to their confidence. I do not think we should be so hasty to judge this keeper won't be L1 standard or higher given the right conditions to develop. It's only my opinion - think you're taking things to heart a bit. He might be young but for me his style of keeping is that of a player who is finding it hard to adapt to a fast (er) - moving game.Do they kick the ball harder in LGL 1 now ? that's the only way i can think of the game moving faster
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Post by pirate on Jun 20, 2018 16:39:11 GMT
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 20, 2018 17:50:14 GMT
I think there are better strikers out there but the more clubs that show an interest makes me feel that the chances of him coming to us gets less and less. I just hope we haven’t put all our eggs in the one basket for strikers. I seem to remember us doing that in the summer of 2012 when all our energies went on trying to get James Constable from Oxford. We failed and ultimately had no strikers when the season started. Let’s hope history doesn’t repeat itself. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 18:37:11 GMT
I think there are better strikers out there but the more clubs that show an interest makes me feel that the chances of him coming to us gets less and less. I just hope we haven’t put all our eggs in the one basket for strikers. I seem to remember us doing that in the summer of 2012 when all our energies went on trying to get James Constable from Oxford. We failed and ultimately had no strikers when the season started. Let’s hope history doesn’t repeat itself. UTG! Any ideas on who we should be pursuing? I was impressed by Taylor when he came to the mem and the bits and pieces I saw in tv highlights. He would be a decent addition and fits within our budget - i.e free! For what it's worth with the other sides linked I'd be surprised if we won the race for his signature.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jun 20, 2018 18:38:15 GMT
I think there are better strikers out there but the more clubs that show an interest makes me feel that the chances of him coming to us gets less and less. I just hope we haven’t put all our eggs in the one basket for strikers. I seem to remember us doing that in the summer of 2012 when all our energies went on trying to get James Constable from Oxford. We failed and ultimately had no strikers when the season started. Let’s hope history doesn’t repeat itself. UTG! Don't you think we've moved quite a bit forward since then?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jun 20, 2018 18:40:27 GMT
I think there are better strikers out there but the more clubs that show an interest makes me feel that the chances of him coming to us gets less and less. I just hope we haven’t put all our eggs in the one basket for strikers. I seem to remember us doing that in the summer of 2012 when all our energies went on trying to get James Constable from Oxford. We failed and ultimately had no strikers when the season started. Let’s hope history doesn’t repeat itself. UTG! Any ideas on who we should be pursuing? I was impressed by Taylor when he came to the mem and the bits and pieces I saw in tv highlights. He would be a decent addition and fits within our budget - i.e free! For what it's worth with the other sides linked I'd be surprised if we won the race for his signature. If the other clubs mentioned are genuinely interested then we have no chance. That being said, it is potentially a good sign that we are being talked about going for the same player as it might mean we are showing a little extra financial clout.
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Post by straighouttabristol on Jun 20, 2018 19:08:02 GMT
Any ideas on who we should be pursuing? I was impressed by Taylor when he came to the mem and the bits and pieces I saw in tv highlights. He would be a decent addition and fits within our budget - i.e free! For what it's worth with the other sides linked I'd be surprised if we won the race for his signature. If the other clubs mentioned are genuinely interested then we have no chance. That being said, it is potentially a good sign that we are being talked about going for the same player as it might mean we are showing a little extra financial clout. But if we do sign him with all the other clubs after him his wage will be pushed up and we’d have to offer him a big wage
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 19:16:13 GMT
If the other clubs mentioned are genuinely interested then we have no chance. That being said, it is potentially a good sign that we are being talked about going for the same player as it might mean we are showing a little extra financial clout. But if we do sign him with all the other clubs after him his wage will be pushed up and we’d have to offer him a big wage If we were prepared to pay over £300k for a striker (Nichols) but got Taylor on a free what we saved on a transfer fee could go on wages meaning we could get someone like Taylor for the same overall package. Just guessing but if the wage was £3000pw we would be able to top up to £5000pw with the saving on fee? Whether this is a strategy the club would entertain I don't know - risk of upsetting other squad members and setting a wage precedent?
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Post by abbeygas on Jun 20, 2018 19:21:56 GMT
Anyone know if Dom Telford has signed a new contract at Stoke?
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 20, 2018 20:11:18 GMT
I think there are better strikers out there but the more clubs that show an interest makes me feel that the chances of him coming to us gets less and less. I just hope we haven’t put all our eggs in the one basket for strikers. I seem to remember us doing that in the summer of 2012 when all our energies went on trying to get James Constable from Oxford. We failed and ultimately had no strikers when the season started. Let’s hope history doesn’t repeat itself. UTG! Any ideas on who we should be pursuing? I was impressed by Taylor when he came to the mem and the bits and pieces I saw in tv highlights. He would be a decent addition and fits within our budget - i.e free! For what it's worth with the other sides linked I'd be surprised if we won the race for his signature. I didn’t see him at the Mem but I saw him at their place late in the season. By all accounts he played very well at our place but tbh I think that’s one of the few times he has impressed. As to who we sign, I presume Tommy W was brought in to improve our recruitment so I’m happy to leave it to the pros! And your point about being free is a good one but with the extra clubs seemingly interested it’s bound to push his price up. UTG!
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