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Post by lympstonegas on Aug 7, 2018 7:02:21 GMT
Gaffney wanted to leave so I doubt any offer would have persuaded him to stay. It must be great him knowing he's first choice CF at Salford Topper thats pretty much my point, with hindsight he would be first choice as things stand. if we could have matched the offer he couldn't refuse with what we intend to spend it would have been a cost saving. But, hindsight and all that Yep but now we've not only lost a decent forward we've lost the best chant as well lol |
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Post by philbemmygas on Aug 7, 2018 7:04:43 GMT
Think if DC was backed he would have bought CD from FGR or DC from Wigan ...done and dusted... Get your point but like DC said "he is fed up of being hopeful" ... Living up near FGR I hear a few things from their ITK or COP brigade. Regardless of gossip & rumours there seems to be a group, club, town, county under the impression that CD is on a considerable wage for that level Stale Mince has always thrown big(gish) money at players in his attempt to turn a village team into a football league club, comes across as a real sanctimonious ar*e |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 7:08:55 GMT
Living up near FGR I hear a few things from their ITK or COP brigade. Regardless of gossip & rumours there seems to be a group, club, town, county under the impression that CD is on a considerable wage for that level Stale Mince has always thrown big(gish) money at players in his attempt to turn a village team into a football league club, comes across as a real sanctimonious ar*e They are more stable than we at BRFC Phil believe you me |
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Post by philbemmygas on Aug 7, 2018 7:20:07 GMT
Stale Mince has always thrown big(gish) money at players in his attempt to turn a village team into a football league club, comes across as a real sanctimonious ar*e They are more stable than we at BRFC Phil believe you me I find some of your comments difficult to believe unfortunately (no offence intended); they have negligible cash through the door so are a very small imitation of pantsdowns empire in my opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 7:29:23 GMT
Why bother signing gavin reilly if your going to play a defender up front? Best to concentrate on turning broadbent into a better central defender. It wont happen anyway thank god. Simple really we need a 6 foot plus CF, what's so hard for you to understand? I wonder how much we did get for Harrison, is it just convinent for the owners to say it was £750K by installments, as surely investment bankers wouldn't just give their best investment away for peanuts? But broadbent only fits half of the criteria in that hes over 6ft tall! Im deflated like most people are over this striker farce but i believe your better off playing with the forwards we have at the club and trying to give them the type of service they need than messing about with centre-backs up top. |
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Post by philbemmygas on Aug 7, 2018 8:30:34 GMT
Simple really we need a 6 foot plus CF, what's so hard for you to understand? I wonder how much we did get for Harrison, is it just convinent for the owners to say it was £750K by installments, as surely investment bankers wouldn't just give their best investment away for peanuts? But broadbent only fits half of the criteria in that hes over 6ft tall! Im deflated like most people are over this striker farce but i believe your better off playing with the forwards we have at the club and trying to give them the type of service they need than messing about with centre-backs up top. Adam Virgo anybody? |
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Post by knowall on Aug 7, 2018 9:05:30 GMT
Ellis left very quickly (certainly by our standards) and DC clearly does not want to stand in anyone's way to go on to better themselves. I would turn this on it's head and do the same, go for Div 2 or Conference player who waants to do exactly that, yes it's a gamble but I think with Marcus Stewart coaching them they would have every opportunity to do really well. This "target man" way of playing bothers me because should we be adopting a new style now the season has started, quick and strong is what we need and we already have a good midfield to back them up. wrong |
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Post by knowall on Aug 7, 2018 9:09:54 GMT
Not fair, we signed some guy whose recuperating from a nasty ACL for left back OK bit of a gamble but there is optimism he'll be match fit in a couple more months and if he recovers well could prove an exceptional signing. We only pay a fee if he plays games so it's only wages we have to cover. If not fit by Christmas then we are back into the market for a left back. Also DC only knew in February or March that Browner was definitely not going to sign. Still the cheap option though? How can DC be certain he'll be fit in 2 months time when he's been out a year already? Buying cheap and selling high is the best business model - ask any millionaire - risky maybe, but sure good policy |
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Post by knowall on Aug 7, 2018 9:12:13 GMT
Why doesnt anyone talk to the fans ? President, chairman, CEO, that wrongun Ken Masters They do, in person, and on Saturday on the radio |
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Post by knowall on Aug 7, 2018 9:17:14 GMT
I worry that there is a grain of truth in that. Bakayoko is the sort of signing we made when we were resigned to relegation when Trollope left. A considerable chunk of money on a player who doesn't look good enough but nobody behind the scenes gives a sh** enough to bang some heads together over it. There is a real jaded feeling about us at the moment, every department of the club has been found wanting over this pre-season. Trollope was signing the likes of a young John Akinde who at the time couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo and Mark Wright who just couldn’t give a toss. By the end we ended up with a bunch of prima donnas with the tail very much wagging the dog. Nothing like the end of the Trolls era. The problem we have is the lack of investment in the first team by the board combined with the rising costs of players wages and fees as well as having a club which cannot generate the amount of income we need to be competitive in this league with our large donations from the owners, which, they aren’t prepared to give. Also found out tonight from a good friend who spoke to Wael on Saturday at P’boro who asked where the Ellis transfer funds had gone and he was told that Ipswich are paying us in instalments for Ellis. That’s right, a championship club paying £750k in instalments. Why the hell did we agree to that. We should have gotten that fee up front.
Absolute joke. When a player wants to go, with only a year left on his contract and bigger wages on offer, keeping him is not the best idea. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 7, 2018 9:21:18 GMT
Trollope was signing the likes of a young John Akinde who at the time couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo and Mark Wright who just couldn’t give a toss. By the end we ended up with a bunch of prima donnas with the tail very much wagging the dog. Nothing like the end of the Trolls era. The problem we have is the lack of investment in the first team by the board combined with the rising costs of players wages and fees as well as having a club which cannot generate the amount of income we need to be competitive in this league with our large donations from the owners, which, they aren’t prepared to give. Also found out tonight from a good friend who spoke to Wael on Saturday at P’boro who asked where the Ellis transfer funds had gone and he was told that Ipswich are paying us in instalments for Ellis. That’s right, a championship club paying £750k in instalments. Why the hell did we agree to that. We should have gotten that fee up front.
Absolute joke. When a player wants to go, with only a year left on his contract and bigger wages on offer, keeping him is not the best idea. He's not advocating keeping a want-away player, but allowing an established Champ club to pay in installments for such a small transfer sum in the scheme of things is poor business. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 7, 2018 9:28:38 GMT
Trollope was signing the likes of a young John Akinde who at the time couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo and Mark Wright who just couldn’t give a toss. By the end we ended up with a bunch of prima donnas with the tail very much wagging the dog. Nothing like the end of the Trolls era. The problem we have is the lack of investment in the first team by the board combined with the rising costs of players wages and fees as well as having a club which cannot generate the amount of income we need to be competitive in this league with our large donations from the owners, which, they aren’t prepared to give. Also found out tonight from a good friend who spoke to Wael on Saturday at P’boro who asked where the Ellis transfer funds had gone and he was told that Ipswich are paying us in instalments for Ellis. That’s right, a championship club paying £750k in instalments. Why the hell did we agree to that. We should have gotten that fee up front.
Absolute joke. When a player wants to go, with only a year left on his contract and bigger wages on offer, keeping him is not the best idea. Its nothing to do with what the player wants. Its about what we demand as a club for a payment structure knowing that we operate a tight budget, bottom 6 according to DC, we don't get donated money from the board for transfer fees and we are already a striker short. If a club can't at least put up half the fee up front, we offer him to another club who is interested who can or he stays our player until they agree to our terms. |
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Post by singupgas on Aug 7, 2018 9:35:26 GMT
When a player wants to go, with only a year left on his contract and bigger wages on offer, keeping him is not the best idea. Its nothing to do with what the player wants. Its about what we demand as a club for a payment structure knowing that we operate a tight budget, bottom 6 according to DC, we don't get donated money from the board for transfer fees and we are already a striker short. If a club can't at least put up half the fee up front, we offer him to another club who is interested who can or he stays our player until they agree to our terms. Now you behave yourself. You are talking too much sense. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 9:39:19 GMT
When a player wants to go, with only a year left on his contract and bigger wages on offer, keeping him is not the best idea. Its nothing to do with what the player wants. Its about what we demand as a club for a payment structure knowing that we operate a tight budget, bottom 6 according to DC, we don't get donated money from the board for transfer fees and we are already a striker short. If a club can't at least put up half the fee up front, we offer him to another club who is interested who can or he stays our player until they agree to our terms. When Ipswich made their initial offer, did we circulate the news to other clubs that Harrison was available? I would suggest that is something you do to make some sort of attempt at a 'bidding war' to raise the asking price. No need to sell to with the very first offer. Was there any other interest in Harrison? Maybe we did? Maybe we didn't? |
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 7, 2018 9:39:54 GMT
I guess instalments will explain the perceived low amount of the fee we are allocating for finding a replacement.
DC may be given £250k now to spend and more later as the payments arrive, but we are not giving him all of the money upfront which restricts our target market.
This may explain where the money has gone rather than assuming it has been taken as a cash windfall or to cover day to day operating costs.
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 7, 2018 9:45:30 GMT
When a player wants to go, with only a year left on his contract and bigger wages on offer, keeping him is not the best idea. Its nothing to do with what the player wants. Its about what we demand as a club for a payment structure knowing that we operate a tight budget, bottom 6 according to DC, we don't get donated money from the board for transfer fees and we are already a striker short. If a club can't at least put up half the fee up front, we offer him to another club who is interested who can or he stays our player until they agree to our terms. If he stayed them he would be worth less next time or could leave if his contract was up (Bodin). Everything is a trade off, without knowing the whole story I'm not sure I could make an informed judgement which was better. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 9:52:30 GMT
I guess instalments will explain the perceived low amount of the fee we are allocating for finding a replacement. DC may be given £250k now to spend and more later as the payments arrive, but we are not giving him all of the money upfront which restricts our target market. This may explain where the money has gone rather than assuming it has been taken as a cash windfall or to cover day to day operating costs. The simple answer to that is for DS to loan us the extra needed to buy, say, a 600k striker. The fact that they can't/won't top up the first payment to stay competitive with the cost of a decent striker at this level inspires no confidence in their ability or desire to take this club forward. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 7, 2018 9:54:59 GMT
Ellis left very quickly (certainly by our standards) and DC clearly does not want to stand in anyone's way to go on to better themselves. I would turn this on it's head and do the same, go for Div 2 or Conference player who waants to do exactly that, yes it's a gamble but I think with Marcus Stewart coaching them they would have every opportunity to do really well. This "target man" way of playing bothers me because should we be adopting a new style now the season has started, quick and strong is what we need and we already have a good midfield to back them up. wrong Why do you say that? |
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Post by simon1883 on Aug 7, 2018 10:01:41 GMT
When a player wants to go, with only a year left on his contract and bigger wages on offer, keeping him is not the best idea. He's not advocating keeping a want-away player, but allowing an established Champ club to pay in installments for such a small transfer sum in the scheme of things is poor business. Going back to few years when I was in Business debt recovery for "A Bank", we had a few clubs on our books who were being "Managed" week by week through the bank. Installments for were normal for all sorts size of fee's/. One of the cubs had sold their best CB for £1million and were getting that in £50,000 installments each month for 20 months. The addons were lump sums once they were activated through - goals/apperances/promotion.
I would imagine that very few clubs pay cash upfront for any players these days.
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 7, 2018 10:10:59 GMT
He's not advocating keeping a want-away player, but allowing an established Champ club to pay in installments for such a small transfer sum in the scheme of things is poor business. Going back to few years when I was in Business debt recovery for "A Bank", we had a few clubs on our books who were being "Managed" week by week through the bank. Installments for were normal for all sorts size of fee's/. One of the cubs had sold their best CB for £1million and were getting that in £50,000 installments each month for 20 months. The addons were lump sums once they were activated through - goals/apperances/promotion.
I would imagine that very few clubs pay cash upfront for any players these days.
I do a similar thing as part of my role at work. I would also suggest that we may have more money by accepting instalments rather than say, £400k upfront. |
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