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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 4, 2018 10:28:12 GMT
I value peace & prosperity. I also understand that if you do not understand history you cannot accurately define the present. But you know, lazy pseudo nationalism is the standard refuge for the insecure Watch you don’t fall off that high horse of yours it’s a long way down. As for understanding history, Croke Park? I read all about that years ago, watched documentaries so understand a tiny bit of the events, so the point you are making is? How about innocent shoppers on mainland Britain being blown to pieces by the IRA? Men, women and children really deserved that didn’t they! Whilst I think the wrong example was chosen, if I read what Oldie was trying to get across is that something as complex as Northern Ireland cannot be easily explained by saying it was down to the IRA. The situation and the concerns over a so called hard border is genuine.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 10:53:32 GMT
Watch you don’t fall off that high horse of yours it’s a long way down. As for understanding history, Croke Park? I read all about that years ago, watched documentaries so understand a tiny bit of the events, so the point you are making is? How about innocent shoppers on mainland Britain being blown to pieces by the IRA? Men, women and children really deserved that didn’t they! Whilst I think the wrong example was chosen, if I read what Oldie was trying to get across is that something as complex as Northern Ireland cannot be easily explained by saying it was down to the IRA. The situation and the concerns over a so called hard border is genuine. Stuart Thanks. It's a bit like the Brexit Debate. It doesn't matter what warnings are given from companies, academics, Bank of England, even the Treasury, leavers stick their fingers in their ears and sing "La La La".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 11:08:04 GMT
Whilst I think the wrong example was chosen, if I read what Oldie was trying to get across is that something as complex as Northern Ireland cannot be easily explained by saying it was down to the IRA. The situation and the concerns over a so called hard border is genuine. Stuart Thanks. It's a bit like the Brexit Debate. It doesn't matter what warnings are given from companies, academics, Bank of England, even the Treasury, leavers stick their fingers in their ears and sing "La La La". Played with a straight bat as always!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 11:13:28 GMT
Stuart Thanks. It's a bit like the Brexit Debate. It doesn't matter what warnings are given from companies, academics, Bank of England, even the Treasury, leavers stick their fingers in their ears and sing "La La La". Played with a straight bat as always! Always. Head over the ball, career ruined by a constant rush of blood to the head resulting getting caught in the deep.😜
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 12:37:34 GMT
Whilst I think the wrong example was chosen, if I read what Oldie was trying to get across is that something as complex as Northern Ireland cannot be easily explained by saying it was down to the IRA. The situation and the concerns over a so called hard border is genuine. Stuart Thanks. It's a bit like the Brexit Debate. It doesn't matter what warnings are given from companies, academics, Bank of England, even the Treasury, leavers stick their fingers in their ears and sing "La La La". Are these the same warnings issued by Companies, Academics, Bank of England, IMF and even the Treasury pre-Referendum? You know, the half a million job losses, the instant Recession, House prices crashing, Emergency Budget, doom & gloom? Excuse me if many people totally ignore these 'warnings', as the same thing from the same people in the past has been proven to be false. They were wrong last time, so why should we believe them now? Nobody is sticking their fingers in their ears. Everyone is well aware that there will be losers during the Brexit process. There will also be winners as well. Some things will change, or is that what you are scared about, change? Be positive. Onwards and upwards. Better to be an Independent Sovereign Nation than a region of Federal Europa.
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Post by pirate on Oct 4, 2018 14:42:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 15:29:04 GMT
Pirate - You really should stop this anti-Jewish conspiracy nonsense. I'm really not sure what place it has in the Brexit debate.
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Post by pirate on Oct 4, 2018 15:59:41 GMT
Pirate - You really should stop this anti-Jewish conspiracy nonsense. I'm really not sure what place it has in the Brexit debate.
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 4, 2018 16:38:16 GMT
Pirate, can you please list the 17 world events that aren't a Zoinist conspiracy? It would save a lot of time🤔
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 18:03:03 GMT
Pirate, can you please list the 17 world events that aren't a Zoinist conspiracy? It would save a lot of time🤔 18. Nicholls not scoring
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 21:16:36 GMT
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Oct 4, 2018 21:49:20 GMT
The key word there was "considering" They could just as easily not done anything in Sunderland if we voted to stay.
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Post by aghast on Oct 4, 2018 22:09:20 GMT
Since we haven't left yet, and we don't seem to be very close to formulating a deal for leaving, it's a bit hard to tell how bad, or good, it might be. Brexit certainly hasn't helped to raise confidence that the UK is a good place to invest, but nothing terrible has happened so far. I think most of the big multinationals are waiting to see how it all pans out before making major decisions. Over to you, Theresa May.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 11:12:49 GMT
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Post by pirate on Oct 5, 2018 11:55:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 12:02:17 GMT
But, Pirate, is their editing politically neutral and are the various analysis they produce accurate. In this case, is the analysis of immigrant contribution to the UK economy accurate?
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Post by pirate on Oct 5, 2018 12:04:45 GMT
But, Pirate, is their editing politically neutral and are the various analysis they produce accurate. In this case, is the analysis of immigrant contribution to the UK economy accurate? It is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 12:18:29 GMT
But, Pirate, is their editing politically neutral and are the various analysis they produce accurate. In this case, is the analysis of immigrant contribution to the UK economy accurate? It is. What I would Love to see is the argument that refutes this and explains how, when this contribution to GDP growth is removed in large numbers, this will be replaced
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 12:21:55 GMT
The key word there was "considering" They could just as easily not done anything in Sunderland if we voted to stay. You also have to remember that Mercedes have opened a one billion euro assembly plant in Hungary. In June this year they announced a second plant is to be built in Hungary. Pretty obvious where their manufacturing is going, and I don't think Sunderland was ever in the picture. Why are they going to Hungary? Pretty obvious really, it's cheaper, and I don't think Sunderland could ever compete.
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