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Post by William Wilson on Oct 24, 2018 6:44:21 GMT
Just back and haven’t read the whole thread but for what it’s worth: We didn’t play well throughout but at times we did pass it around and made them look poor. A better team than AFCW would have been a few goals up at HT and won easily. Upson played as well as I’ve seen him and deserved the MOM closely followed by Craig or even Tom N. Nichols played well and despite being short kept on being fed high balls. Why? When it was on the ground he is good on the ball and he never gave up and kept their defence busy. And I’ve no idea what Payne did when he came on for Nichols, we were better off with Nichols on, at least he jumped for the ball, hassled their defence and never gave up. Payne never started. We are short of quality but we dug in and got a result, the players are giving their best for the team (and D.C.) so no complaints there. With a better No.9 up front we would be a far better team. We’ve too many players like Matthews and Bennett who are good on the ball but have little end product because when they look to put a cross in or pass into the box there’s no one there, so they cut back and play back to a colleague. For all the stick he gets on here Craig is playing very well and shows great commitment and didn’t lose too many headers against their giants. And when he went off with a cut, from where I was sat in the front row of the East Stand it looked bad, he was soon back on. That’s the kind of commitment we need at the moment. We weren’t very good but AFCW were poor and despite their size, it wasn’t matched by effort or skill. We’ll finish above them. Well done DC and well done the team, the 3 points are more important than the performance and it will give the team a lot of confidence I hope. Big test on Saturday against Barnsley. I guess that’s one match we’d be happy to have a 0-0 against! UTG! Pretty much spot on. Although you could say that with a better No 9 up front, Wimbledon would have been out of sight, before our first. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 6:45:14 GMT
Just back and haven’t read the whole thread but for what it’s worth: We didn’t play well throughout but at times we did pass it around and made them look poor. A better team than AFCW would have been a few goals up at HT and won easily. Upson played as well as I’ve seen him and deserved the MOM closely followed by Craig or even Tom N. Nichols played well and despite being short kept on being fed high balls. Why? When it was on the ground he is good on the ball and he never gave up and kept their defence busy. And I’ve no idea what Payne did when he came on for Nichols, we were better off with Nichols on, at least he jumped for the ball, hassled their defence and never gave up. Payne never started. We are short of quality but we dug in and got a result, the players are giving their best for the team (and D.C.) so no complaints there. With a better No.9 up front we would be a far better team. We’ve too many players like Matthews and Bennett who are good on the ball but have little end product because when they look to put a cross in or pass into the box there’s no one there, so they cut back and play back to a colleague. For all the stick he gets on here Craig is playing very well and shows great commitment and didn’t lose too many headers against their giants. And when he went off with a cut, from where I was sat in the front row of the East Stand it looked bad, he was soon back on. That’s the kind of commitment we need at the moment. We weren’t very good but AFCW were poor and despite their size, it wasn’t matched by effort or skill. We’ll finish above them. Well done DC and well done the team, the 3 points are more important than the performance and it will give the team a lot of confidence I hope. Big test on Saturday against Barnsley. I guess that’s one match we’d be happy to have a 0-0 against! UTG! Totally agree, I think a big No9, who can hold the ball & win his fair share of headers would make a big difference. We won't find the long ball bouncing back as often & even might help the likes of Nicholls & Riley We also need a manager who will start selecting a settled side hopefully that will be DC. |
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Post by William Wilson on Oct 24, 2018 6:50:26 GMT
Fellow Gas eds, i might analyse and dissect the performance tomorrow, but tonight my over riding feeling is just sheer bloody relief with the win and relief to get home to Chepstow after a mare of a journey due to shut slip roads and bridge! onward and upwards!! Had the same journey, but another 20 minutes up the A48. Luckily I was anesthetized by the performance. It was pretty obvious, what was coming. I had a couple of glasses of 12 year old Glenlivet, before the game. That did the trick. |
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Post by lympstonegas on Oct 24, 2018 7:02:41 GMT
I'm not sure we were as bad as some are suggesting, they started well & yes we rode our luck a couple of times in the first 20 mins but to read some of the comments you would have thought we had been completely battered. Bonham has made a couple of decent saves but he's hardly been overworked as in some previous games. We've had to scrap against a side that get the ball forward quickly it was never going to be pretty especially 2nd half when they've effectively shoved two giants up top & launched it forward at every opportunity. Maybe we should give our players a bit more credit, we've defended very well & showed we have plenty of fight in us, good three points & something too build on. Totally agree with this. As MS said after the game, if you are Wimbledon you are told to batter us with high balls in the first 15 as we are fragile at home and prone to not defend crosses well. Wimbledon being Wimbledon are a very big ugly side and they got stuck in and physically opposed us. I think we defended well all game - Yes we got lucky at times and Bonham made some crucial saves but he is there to do that. Really don't think he was that busy in the 2nd half. The last 15mins of the 1st half we got our passing game going as we did for a spell mid second half which showed promise. You always knew Wimbledon would batter us again last 15 and I think credit where credits due we stood up well with Craig being exceptional. My only bug bear was watching Payne at half time, "warming up and going through his routines". What a joke he just couldn't be bothered and just ambled about having a laugh as if he was above all that. On the face of it after seeing him v Coventry I'm really worried we have a bad egg here as his attitude just doesn't seem right for me. It was as though he knew he wouldn't be coming on so what's the point. Trouble is he did come on though didn't do very much in his limited time |
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Post by alvestongas on Oct 24, 2018 7:07:00 GMT
Three pretty vital points, another clean sheet. We can moan all we like about the performance, quality or lack thereof, goal scoring ability but we got what we needed desperately tonight. Thank the Lord for Jack Bonham, Tom Lockyer & Tony Craig. I don’t mind if I never see Payne or Jakubiak again!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 7:16:16 GMT
Also, pathetic attendance tonight. Just over 7100, and that included all season ticket holders who may or may not have been there. Support the team through thick and thin! Embarrassing when people claim that our fans are loyal because they bloody aren’t. It was only a year ago we were still getting over 9,000. First sign of trouble this season and the crowds dwindle. As much as some of us want to be there, we can't always get time off work for the 5 hour round trip on a Tuesday night. Sorry if that's not loyal. I consider I am a loyal fan/ST holder , was there in the Conference but after recent performances a 200 mile round trip on a Tuesday night was just to much for this old boy. The club made more money from me as I watched on ifollow. UTG! |
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Post by Fetch on Oct 24, 2018 7:18:43 GMT
A big three points, but again we really failed to create anything of note and only scored due to a goalkeeping error and an own goal. Really a better side would have punished us, and that’s the worrying thing for me - if we didn’t have Bonham we’d probably be bottom of the league. To add to that, I don’t see where the goals are going to come from to get us to 50 points.
Our next four (league):
Barnsley (A)
Blackpool (A)
Scunthorpe (H)
Charlton (A)
We’ve played a lot of the bottom half now, this team needs to seriously step it up a gear if we are to get safe, else it’s goinf to be a long winter.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 7:21:26 GMT
DC sets up a cautious side against a fellow relegation rival, in a match we really do not want to lose. He gets it right, and we win 2-0. Our defence yet again do the job. Best in League 1 at the moment. Result: "DC must go. We were terrible. We're doomed." Presumably these posters would have been happier with a plucky 3-4 defeat. Let's see how our defence performs in the next three away games against teams in the top half of the table. |
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Post by althepirate on Oct 24, 2018 7:23:15 GMT
The old DC wouldn't have taken the width off he would have tried to get a third goal. Once he did we were on the back foot a repeat of the first half on Saturday. Playing without width it's virtually impossible to attack, very risky and best we can get is 0-0 plus very boring fear ridden football. Also it affects the crowd who go quiet, not surprisingly and then it affects the players. Without width the only way we can attack is for our strikers to go out wide to get the ball leaving no one to score. Has DC changed into John Ward? Without width we can only draw 0 -0. Please DC forget the fear and your obsession with the midfield,and create. People say our defence is good, sorry but it's Bonham who literally saves the day every game. The best form of defence is attack. Width please otherwise it's a relegation battle and you will be acting like all the other failure managers we have had with the same result.
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Oct 24, 2018 7:25:01 GMT
Whoa! I feel good, I knew that I would, now
I feel good, I knew that I would, now
So good, so good, WE got TWO !!
Whoa! I feel nice, like sugar and spice
I feel nice, like sugar and spice
So nice, so nice, WE got TWO!!
Apologies to the late great James Brown (he would have been a Gashead for sure)
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Oct 24, 2018 7:29:30 GMT
This being 'page 17' of this thread, I agree with just about everything said on this 'page'.
Just imagine what damage we could do in Lge 1 if we had a traditional number 9 and number 10 up front.
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Post by markczgas on Oct 24, 2018 7:38:28 GMT
A massive relief to score and WIN ! A minor miracle that we didn't go 1 down in the first 30 mins and also that we didn't concede in that last 15. Luck was certainly with us last night - big time.
Players dug in. Not sure the manager knows who to play and lacks physical players to cope with the likes of Wimbledon. Despite the win I think both teams are going to be scratching around relegation zone all season.
Well done to Upson, I thought he was the pick of the midfield - showed skill but also determination to fight for the ball.
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Post by p4perlant3rn on Oct 24, 2018 7:43:19 GMT
The most important thing last night was getting a vital 3 points, and whilst it wasn’t exactly beautiful football we perhaps got a little of the luck that has escaped us in some of the other tight games that we lost by the odd goal.
That being said, we were all over the place for the first 20-25 minutes, playing Ollie Clark as a No 10 ahead of Sercombe was a bizarre decision as he offers very little creativity. If OC is starting (and I would personally prefer Lines alongside Upson), he has to play deeper and was much better when the two were switched.
What doesnt seem to have been referenced so far was the fact that DC had Payne stripped and ready to come on after 13 minutes which would have been purely for tactical reasons - we need to be making better starts to games if we are serious about picking up points against some of the better sides.
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Post by markczgas on Oct 24, 2018 7:44:01 GMT
A big three points, but again we really failed to create anything of note and only scored due to a goalkeeping error and an own goal. Really a better side would have punished us, and that’s the worrying thing for me - if we didn’t have Bonham we’d probably be bottom of the league. To add to that, I don’t see where the goals are going to come from to get us to 50 points. Our next four (league): Barnsley (A) Blackpool (A) Scunthorpe (H) Charlton (A) We’ve played a lot of the bottom half now, this team needs to seriously step it up a gear if we are to get safe, else it’s goinf to be a long winter. That's a really honest post and I'm afraid I have the same thoughts and worries as you. Is our squad really going to get us 50 pts ? |
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Post by gashead99 on Oct 24, 2018 7:50:48 GMT
There isn't much relief to be had by winning 2-0 whilst creating zero chances. It was a poor performance and those travelling back to London can feel rightly mugged.
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 24, 2018 7:52:44 GMT
We won deservedly. We didn’t create lots, but you don’t need to. Said at the start of the season the defence is decent. Proving correct. Great defending by locks and Craig all evening. Wimbledon poor. Ollie Clarke was clearly playing in an attacking role with the aim of helping Nichols with the press... truthfully, it didn’t really work but wasn’t as mad an idea as some are suggesting. Goals continue to be an issue. Need to be looking for that striker. If you are going to have someone do that role from midfield it needs to be Sinclair as he will never give the back line a moments peace. He’s a busy body who has the stamina to do it. Ollie is about breaking up play, making the pass, or then driving forward into the opposition half before having a crack at goal or moving the ball wide. Ollie looked totally lost last night. I don’t know why he was put there when we have a gifted attacking midfielder in Sercombe. |
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Post by contradiction on Oct 24, 2018 8:07:54 GMT
If you are going to have someone do that role from midfield it needs to be Sinclair as he will never give the back line a moments peace. He’s a busy body who has the stamina to do it. Ollie is about breaking up play, making the pass, or then driving forward into the opposition half before having a crack at goal or moving the ball wide. Ollie looked totally lost last night. I don’t know why he was put there when we have a gifted attacking midfielder in Sercombe. I would suggest the need for a bit of physicality, as someone else said its not as mad as you think. Given that a lot of people have been advocating we should play 2 wide players that will inevitably leave you overrun in midfield unless you play people who can win the ball (that will exclude the likes of Lines and Sercombe in all honesty as thats not their strength). But you need those kind of players for their creativity Playing 4-3-3 can potentially address this, with the two wingers either side up top and it gives you an extra body in midfield but it leaves you weak up top centrally. This was addressed by Sinclair in the second half on saturday, who actually won a few balls in the air to help Nichols out and made a nuisance of himself. i thought the secnd half worked well on saturday. I would suggest the plan was for Ollie to do similar yesterday but it didnt have the same level of success. |
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Post by kylegas on Oct 24, 2018 8:09:40 GMT
One up front and no attacking threat what so ever, can’t wait for Clarke to get the sack I'm right behind you there All worked out in the end but yet a again started the game all wrong, one up front was ridiculous especially expecting Nichols to be able to do anything alone (under the circumstances I thought he did really well tbh) but we could have been 2-0 down again with them hitting the post and the ball being cleared off the line, game really changed after we scored tho thank god! |
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Post by GasAttacK on Oct 24, 2018 8:23:16 GMT
Just back and haven’t read the whole thread but for what it’s worth: We didn’t play well throughout but at times we did pass it around and made them look poor. A better team than AFCW would have been a few goals up at HT and won easily. Upson played as well as I’ve seen him and deserved the MOM closely followed by Craig or even Tom N. Nichols played well and despite being short kept on being fed high balls. Why? When it was on the ground he is good on the ball and he never gave up and kept their defence busy. And I’ve no idea what Payne did when he came on for Nichols, we were better off with Nichols on, at least he jumped for the ball, hassled their defence and never gave up. Payne never started. We are short of quality but we dug in and got a result, the players are giving their best for the team (and D.C.) so no complaints there. With a better No.9 up front we would be a far better team. We’ve too many players like Matthews and Bennett who are good on the ball but have little end product because when they look to put a cross in or pass into the box there’s no one there, so they cut back and play back to a colleague. For all the stick he gets on here Craig is playing very well and shows great commitment and didn’t lose too many headers against their giants. And when he went off with a cut, from where I was sat in the front row of the East Stand it looked bad, he was soon back on. That’s the kind of commitment we need at the moment. We weren’t very good but AFCW were poor and despite their size, it wasn’t matched by effort or skill. We’ll finish above them. Well done DC and well done the team, the 3 points are more important than the performance and it will give the team a lot of confidence I hope. Big test on Saturday against Barnsley. I guess that’s one match we’d be happy to have a 0-0 against! UTG! Agree with most of this.
Upson had a decent game but I wouldn't give him MOTM because I felt we lost the midfield battle for much of the game. I'd probably give it to Craig.
Agree about Nichols and Payne though. Nichols might be half the size but he'll challenge for absolutely everything and often managed to win headers or hold up the ball against much bigger defenders. He'll run all day long, has an excellent first touch and always makes himself available. We lost our only outlet when he went off because Payne was so poor it was like playing with 10 men.
We had pretty much all the luck going last night. They hit the post, missed a few decent chances, had a goal disalowed and pretty much scored both of ours. Still, the result was definitely more important than the performance and it was a big relief to finally get another 3 points.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 8:34:25 GMT
Three pretty vital points, another clean sheet. We can moan all we like about the performance, quality or lack thereof, goal scoring ability but we got what we needed desperately tonight. Thank the Lord for Jack Bonham, Tom Lockyer & Tony Craig. I don’t mind if I never see Payne or Jakubiak again! Harsh on Jakubiak. The kid has potential. |
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