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Post by ally1976 on Nov 14, 2018 19:39:09 GMT
If its park football why do npne of you play for Scottish championship teams and get a grand plus?All the teams are full time and the good teams can pay it
Myles Hypolite to created a lot of chances for him who is rapid maybe sign some wingers with pace before you throw people under the bus
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Post by Marshy on Nov 14, 2018 19:39:48 GMT
And another thread descends into discussing the merits of Scottish football... What merits? There aren’t any. |
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Post by Jomo on Nov 14, 2018 19:40:56 GMT
What's strange is that all 4 strikers scored a reasonable amount of goals at their previous club prior to joining us. Why are they struggling so much at the moment for us? For me it's lack of confidence. The longer a striker goes without scoring, it becomes a "thing" for them to sort out, and the natural scoring instinct goes out the window. I think we're in the unfortunate position where all our strikers as a strikeforce are suffering from this, simultaneously. Nichols struggled at Peterborough and had the fans on his back, Payne only has 16 goals in 100+ appearances in the football league, Jakubiak only scored 6 in 42 appearances in League Two and managed 1 goal in his last 9 games in the Scottish Championship. Fair comments although I do feel you've used statistics in such a way as to reinforce the argument that they're rubbish. I could come back to you and say that Payne scored 14 goals and was top scorer for a team that was 1 game away from promotion in L1 last season. That Jakubiak scored 1 in 3 for a struggling team in a brief loan spell last season in the Scottish Championship (albeit this isn't great I admit, but I did say "reasonable amount of goals" in my original post). That Reilly was top scorer for the Scottish Championship winners last season with 22 goals in all competitions (yes I know is was 11 in the league). That Nichols was Posh's top scorer the season before he joined us, albeit with a ratio of about 1 in 4. Again all these stats, while not world-beating, are certainly better than what they're doing for us right now. I would expect all 4 of them to be capable of getting into double figures for us, which wouldn't be that bad if we could get some of our other players chipping in with some goals too. |
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Post by Marshy on Nov 14, 2018 19:43:09 GMT
If its park football why do npne of you play for Scottish championship teams and get a grand plus?All the teams are full time and the good teams can pay it Myles Hypolite to created a lot of chances for him who is rapid maybe sign some wingers with pace before you throw people under the bus Oh dear here we go again! |
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Post by Jomo on Nov 14, 2018 19:46:01 GMT
I wonder who voted for Reilly? Could it be our resident Scottish football scout perhaps?  |
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Post by ally1976 on Nov 14, 2018 19:46:41 GMT
What league do you think Jason Cummings got most of his goals?Pretty sure you would bite my hand off to have him
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Post by pirate on Nov 14, 2018 19:47:53 GMT
Nichols struggled at Peterborough and had the fans on his back, Payne only has 16 goals in 100+ appearances in the football league, Jakubiak only scored 6 in 42 appearances in League Two and managed 1 goal in his last 9 games in the Scottish Championship. Fair comments although I do feel you've used statistics in such a way as to reinforce the argument that they're rubbish. I could come back to you and say that Payne scored 14 goals and was top scorer for a team that was 1 game away from promotion in L1 last season. That Jakubiak scored 1 in 3 for a struggling team in a brief loan spell last season in the Scottish Championship (albeit this isn't great I admit, but I did say "reasonable amount of goals" in my original post). That Reilly was top scorer for the Scottish Championship winners last season with 22 goals in all competitions (yes I know is was 11 in the league). That Nichols was Posh's top scorer the season before he joined us, albeit with a ratio of about 1 in 4. Again all these stats, while not world-beating, are certainly better than what they're doing for us right now. I would expect all 4 of them to be capable of getting into double figures for us, which wouldn't be that bad if we could get some of our other players chipping in with some goals too. Payne scored 9 goals from open play in League One last season which is poor. None of our strikers have particularly decent records and I can see with my own eyes that they aren't natural goalscorers. In an ideal world I'd ship them all out and start again. |
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Post by ally1976 on Nov 14, 2018 19:49:35 GMT
Scott Fraser doing well for Burton signed right out of our championship funny how you slate it when doubt any of you have watched it
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Post by Marshy on Nov 14, 2018 19:51:30 GMT
Fair comments although I do feel you've used statistics in such a way as to reinforce the argument that they're rubbish. I could come back to you and say that Payne scored 14 goals and was top scorer for a team that was 1 game away from promotion in L1 last season. That Jakubiak scored 1 in 3 for a struggling team in a brief loan spell last season in the Scottish Championship (albeit this isn't great I admit, but I did say "reasonable amount of goals" in my original post). That Reilly was top scorer for the Scottish Championship winners last season with 22 goals in all competitions (yes I know is was 11 in the league). That Nichols was Posh's top scorer the season before he joined us, albeit with a ratio of about 1 in 4. Again all these stats, while not world-beating, are certainly better than what they're doing for us right now. I would expect all 4 of them to be capable of getting into double figures for us, which wouldn't be that bad if we could get some of our other players chipping in with some goals too. Payne scored 9 goals from open play in League One last season which is poor. None of our strikers have particularly decent records and I can see with my own eyes that they aren't natural goalscorers. In an ideal world I'd ship them all out and start again. Ship them all up to Scotland they will all bang them in up there. |
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Post by Jomo on Nov 14, 2018 19:52:56 GMT
Fair comments although I do feel you've used statistics in such a way as to reinforce the argument that they're rubbish. I could come back to you and say that Payne scored 14 goals and was top scorer for a team that was 1 game away from promotion in L1 last season. That Jakubiak scored 1 in 3 for a struggling team in a brief loan spell last season in the Scottish Championship (albeit this isn't great I admit, but I did say "reasonable amount of goals" in my original post). That Reilly was top scorer for the Scottish Championship winners last season with 22 goals in all competitions (yes I know is was 11 in the league). That Nichols was Posh's top scorer the season before he joined us, albeit with a ratio of about 1 in 4. Again all these stats, while not world-beating, are certainly better than what they're doing for us right now. I would expect all 4 of them to be capable of getting into double figures for us, which wouldn't be that bad if we could get some of our other players chipping in with some goals too. Payne scored 9 goals from open play in League One last season which is poor. None of our strikers have particularly decent records and I can see with my own eyes that they aren't natural goalscorers. In an ideal world I'd ship them all out and start again. 9 goals from open play isn't great I agree. Just trying to put a slightly more positive approach forward I the hope that our strikeforce can improve, as I think it's unlikely they'll all get replaced in January! |
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Post by ally1976 on Nov 14, 2018 19:52:56 GMT
Really never worked that way for Waghorn and Garner seemed to work the other way
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 20:02:58 GMT
And yet when Reilly played with Morgan and Magennis he got a barrel load at St Mirren?When they gave him the service He only scored 11 league goals last season. 22 goals overall, but 4 of those were against non-league Lothian Thistle, 2 against Hearts' U20 team and a further 4 against 3rd tier sides. The previous season 16/17 he only scored 1 goal in 22 games in the Scottish Championship. 5 league goals in 50 games for 15/16 and 16/17 seasons. Pish. Jesus, that's brutal. I guess it's not so bad as we got him on a free but he really should have been a very speculative punt as a 4th choice striker, yet he was second only in superiority to Nichols...at least until Payne was signed. Honestly, everyone involved needs to hang their heads in shame in acquiring 4 strikers who look unable to contribute more than 15 goals between them this season. Absolutely pathetic recruitment of the most dismal order. |
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Post by ally1976 on Nov 14, 2018 20:07:30 GMT
Strikers need service St Mirren had flair played with openess and creativity that is why he got goals with them free fluid flowing attacking football they played last year with inter change exactly like Sunderland do
Reilly is not a bad player but he cant do it all himself without others creating chances for him
I wont comment on your other strikers cos I dont know a lot about them
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Post by LJG on Nov 14, 2018 20:27:58 GMT
Scott Fraser doing well for Burton signed right out of our championship funny how you slate it when doubt any of you have watched it Please just give it a f**king rest. |
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Post by gregsy on Nov 14, 2018 20:29:37 GMT
Is it me or has the concept of a strike partnership gone by the wayside in recent years? With squad rotations and match by match formation changes I guess it doesn't belong in the modern game, but it used to be the embodiment of a starting 11....
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Post by LJG on Nov 14, 2018 20:31:09 GMT
Payne scored 9 goals from open play in League One last season which is poor. None of our strikers have particularly decent records and I can see with my own eyes that they aren't natural goalscorers. In an ideal world I'd ship them all out and start again. 9 goals from open play isn't great I agree. Just trying to put a slightly more positive approach forward I the hope that our strikeforce can improve, as I think it's unlikely they'll all get replaced in January! Haha 9 goals isn't great but zero goals is our best. The mistake that Payne has made is obvious. He's scored three but that clearly just illustrates how sh1t he is. What he should've done is fluffed his two strikes and smashed the pen over the bar, that way people would be talking about what a natural he is. Bok bok bok bok. Bekerrrrk! |
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Post by ally1976 on Nov 14, 2018 20:31:13 GMT
Have you watched it though?Ive watched league 1 would hapilly put cash of teams like Partick Th Dundee Utd Ayr United Dunfermline ICT Ross County beating a lot of the teams on your league
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 14, 2018 20:47:05 GMT
Have you watched it though?Ive watched league 1 would hapilly put cash of teams like Partick Th Dundee Utd Ayr United Dunfermline ICT Ross County beating a lot of the teams on your league <iframe width="24.5" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 24.5px; height: 3.240000000000009px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_96904350" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.5" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 24.5px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1164px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_65602511" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.5" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 24.5px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_46866514" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.5" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 24.5px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1164px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_95711149" scrolling="no"></iframe> When are you going to understand we couldn't give a toss about Scottish football, Martin Cameron, Riordan, Kenneth, Paterson and now Reilly have all been utterly useless at Rovers, if the club announced tomorrow that we'll never signed another Scot most of us would be happy. Why not find a football club's forum where they've had some good experience of Scottish players in the past? |
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Post by pirate on Nov 14, 2018 20:49:15 GMT
Have you watched it though?Ive watched league 1 would hapilly put cash of teams like Partick Th Dundee Utd Ayr United Dunfermline ICT Ross County beating a lot of the teams on your league The standard of football in the Scottish Premiership is akin to that in England's League One, according to Sunderland assistant James Fowler. The former Kilmarnock midfielder played in the Scottish top flight for 17 years and was number two to Jack Ross at St Mirren in the Championship last term. He is now Ross' deputy at the Stadium of Light in England's third tier. "From what we've seen so far, I'd say League One is similar to the top league in Scotland," Fowler told BBC Sport. Josh Magennis after joining Charlton from Kilmarnock: "I think the overall standard of League One is higher than the Scottish Premiership." “It's a lot more physical but you also have the technical side. It's one of the reasons why I left Kilmarnock - I want to push on with my career.” |
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Post by ally1976 on Nov 14, 2018 20:50:31 GMT
Such a freindly lot you are,cos five Scots over 100 years is the reason you have never did anything aye okay pal
I am only here cos I enjoyed my visit to your City trying to be friendly but you can seethe if you want and scape goat a whole nationality
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