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Post by LJG on Nov 15, 2018 12:02:56 GMT
How anyone can vote for a STRIKER who has scored ONE goal in 49 games in 12 months and 3 weeks is beyond a joke. If he is truly the best striker we have then Clarke needs sacking How is it 49? Keeps getting lower and lower. 49 was a few weeks ago wasn't it? Soccerbase says 39 + 14 = 53 in the league, 2 + 1 = 3 in the league trophy and 3 + 1 = 4 in the league cup. I make that 2 goals in 60 appearances. Best striker at the club. Hands down.
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Post by pirate on Nov 15, 2018 12:15:44 GMT
How anyone can vote for a STRIKER who has scored ONE goal in 49 games in 12 months and 3 weeks is beyond a joke. If he is truly the best striker we have then Clarke needs sacking How is it 49? Keeps getting lower and lower. 49 was a few weeks ago wasn't it? Soccerbase says 39 + 14 = 53 in the league, 2 + 1 = 3 in the league trophy and 3 + 1 = 4 in the league cup. I make that 2 goals in 60 appearances. Best striker at the club. Hands down. 2 goals in 60 games really is embarrassing. I'd be ashamed of that if I was a defender.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 15, 2018 13:27:27 GMT
I'm not sure what posters on this thread are hoping to achieve regarding Nichols, knock his confidence even further and so force him out of the club/1st team, if so, what good is that going to achieve when he's the only striker worthy of a first team place at present, even if he's not scoring. I'm sensing most of you don't watch Rovers games as it you did you'd be supporting him given his performances in the last few games, Oxford, Wimbledon, Blackpool & Barnet not trying to destroy his Rovers career.
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Post by wertongas on Nov 15, 2018 13:36:35 GMT
Well what a poor choice of forwards, I couldn't vote for any of them, just three goals between them and over a third of the season gone is dreadful. Suggests putting Moore and Allen upfront, it was a shame they didn't play against Exeter on Tuesday. Lets be fair they couldn't do any worse than the present shower.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 15, 2018 13:37:00 GMT
I'm not sure what posters on this thread are hoping to achieve regarding Nichols, knock his confidence even further and so force him out of the club/1st team, if so, what good is that going to achieve when he's the only striker worthy of a first team place at present, even if he's not scoring. I'm sensing most of you don't watch Rovers games as it you did you'd be supporting him given his performances in the last few games, Oxford, Wimbledon, Blackpool & Barnet not trying to destroy his Rovers career. You are putting the cart before the horse there. People are complaining that he isn't scoring. That is only happening because erm....he isnt scoring. His not scoring came long before people were moaning about it.
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Post by pirate on Nov 15, 2018 13:42:37 GMT
I'm not sure what posters on this thread are hoping to achieve regarding Nichols, knock his confidence even further and so force him out of the club/1st team, if so, what good is that going to achieve when he's the only striker worthy of a first team place at present, even if he's not scoring. I'm sensing most of you don't watch Rovers games as it you did you'd be supporting him given his performances in the last few games, Oxford, Wimbledon, Blackpool & Barnet not trying to destroy his Rovers career. You are putting the cart before the horse there. People are complaining that he isn't scoring. That is only happening because erm....he isnt scoring. His not scoring came long before people were moaning about it. What is the difference between moaning about Nichols and moaning about Payne? A few selected Topper comments about Payne recently: "Not sure you can fully blame DC for Payne turning into a v. poor looking striker this season." "What I can't understand is how poor Payne looks, on Sunday he did zilch" "Payne looked as useless as ever on Sunday, apart from chasing the ref around the pitch after Sincs' tackle, we looked like we were playing with 9 until he was subbed off." "somebody should stick a rocket up Payne's #### tonight if he turns up at a bonfire night show, in the hope that he then puts some effort in for the rest of the season, as with him upfront it's really like playing with 10 men."
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Post by LJG on Nov 15, 2018 14:00:14 GMT
I'm not sure what posters on this thread are hoping to achieve regarding Nichols, knock his confidence even further and so force him out of the club/1st team, if so, what good is that going to achieve when he's the only striker worthy of a first team place at present, even if he's not scoring. I'm sensing most of you don't watch Rovers games as it you did you'd be supporting him given his performances in the last few games, Oxford, Wimbledon, Blackpool & Barnet not trying to destroy his Rovers career. What do you hope to achieve by bad-mouthing the other three strikers who have scored goals in their last 60 appearances?
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 15, 2018 14:02:02 GMT
You are putting the cart before the horse there. People are complaining that he isn't scoring. That is only happening because erm....he isnt scoring. His not scoring came long before people were moaning about it. What is the difference between moaning about Nichols and moaning about Payne? A few selected Topper comments about Payne recently: "Not sure you can fully blame DC for Payne turning into a v. poor looking striker this season." "What I can't understand is how poor Payne looks, on Sunday he did zilch" "Payne looked as useless as ever on Sunday, apart from chasing the ref around the pitch after Sincs' tackle, we looked like we were playing with 9 until he was subbed off." "somebody should stick a rocket up Payne's #### tonight if he turns up at a bonfire night show, in the hope that he then puts some effort in for the rest of the season, as with him upfront it's really like playing with 10 men." Payne's playing poorly at least Nichols is putting in a decent shift in recent games, if Nichols reverts to his early season form we're well and truly stuffed but I doubt Payne could get any worse if he does get offended by my posts who knows perhaps he'll take on board what I've said, Nichols seems to have turned things around and I can only praise him for that as I didn't think he had it in just a pity the forum snipers can't.
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Post by LJG on Nov 15, 2018 14:06:20 GMT
What is the difference between moaning about Nichols and moaning about Payne? A few selected Topper comments about Payne recently: "Not sure you can fully blame DC for Payne turning into a v. poor looking striker this season." "What I can't understand is how poor Payne looks, on Sunday he did zilch" "Payne looked as useless as ever on Sunday, apart from chasing the ref around the pitch after Sincs' tackle, we looked like we were playing with 9 until he was subbed off." "somebody should stick a rocket up Payne's #### tonight if he turns up at a bonfire night show, in the hope that he then puts some effort in for the rest of the season, as with him upfront it's really like playing with 10 men." Payne's playing poorly at least Nichols is putting in a decent shift in recent games, if Nichols reverts to his early season form we're well and truly stuffed but I doubt Payne could get any worse if he does get offended by my posts who knows perhaps he'll take on board what I've said, Nichols seems to have turned things around and I can only praise him for that as I didn't think he had it in just a pity the forum snipers can't. The only forum sniper I can see round here is you. Payne has scored 200% more goals than Nicholls this season and what? 1,500% more since last season but he's the one playing poorly?
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Post by GasAttacK on Nov 15, 2018 14:15:55 GMT
I'm pleasantly surprised by how many rate Nichols as our best striker. I thought it might be closer but I'm pleased to see many appreciate that he does bring a lot to the team, even if goals have proved hard to come by. I bet if you asked any centre back in L1 which of our 4 strikers they'd least like to come up against 90%+ would say Nichols. Who is the hardest worker? Nichols Who has the best first touch? Nichols Who is the only one who can hold the ball up? Nichols Who is the best in the air? Nichols Who is the strongest when holding off centre backs? Nichols Who is the most creative and best passer? Nichols Who is the most intelligent? Nichols Who makes the best runs off the ball? Nichols Who is the best team player? Nichols Who has the best technical ability? Nichols Who is the most consistent performer? Nichols
The only thing that it could be argued they beat him on is finishing but I'm not convinced 1 or 2 goals really proves that. Nichols is best in every other department game after game in my opinion.
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Post by Marshy on Nov 15, 2018 14:37:51 GMT
I'm pleasantly surprised by how many rate Nichols as our best striker. I thought it might be closer but I'm pleased to see many appreciate that he does bring a lot to the team, even if goals have proved hard to come by. I bet if you asked any centre back in L1 which of our 4 strikers they'd least like to come up against 90%+ would say Nichols. Who is the hardest worker? Nichols Who has the best first touch? Nichols Who is the only one who can hold the ball up? Nichols Who is the best in the air? Nichols Who is the strongest when holding off centre backs? Nichols Who is the most creative and best passer? Nichols Who is the most intelligent? Nichols Who makes the best runs off the ball? Nichols Who is the best team player? Nichols Who has the best technical ability? Nichols Who is the most consistent performer? Nichols
The only thing that it could be argued they beat him on is finishing but I'm not convinced 1 or 2 goals really proves that. Nichols is best in every other department game after game in my opinion. You forgot one. Who can’t score goals? Nichols.
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Post by LJG on Nov 15, 2018 14:59:59 GMT
I'm pleasantly surprised by how many rate Nichols as our best striker. I thought it might be closer but I'm pleased to see many appreciate that he does bring a lot to the team, even if goals have proved hard to come by. I bet if you asked any centre back in L1 which of our 4 strikers they'd least like to come up against 90%+ would say Nichols. Who is the hardest worker? Nichols Who has the best first touch? Nichols Who is the only one who can hold the ball up? Nichols Who is the best in the air? Nichols Who is the strongest when holding off centre backs? Nichols Who is the most creative and best passer? Nichols Who is the most intelligent? Nichols Who makes the best runs off the ball? Nichols Who is the best team player? Nichols Who has the best technical ability? Nichols Who is the most consistent performer? Nichols
The only thing that it could be argued they beat him on is finishing but I'm not convinced 1 or 2 goals really proves that. Nichols is best in every other department game after game in my opinion. I'm sorry but he absolutely does not have the best first touch - he takes three, even during shooting practice in the warm-up. Best runs off the ball? Again sorry but no. This is becoming a modern-day legend. He's been so bad for so long he's somehow become the world's most gifted footballer in people's mind. He's a footballing mirage.
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Post by GasAttacK on Nov 15, 2018 17:22:35 GMT
I'm pleasantly surprised by how many rate Nichols as our best striker. I thought it might be closer but I'm pleased to see many appreciate that he does bring a lot to the team, even if goals have proved hard to come by. I bet if you asked any centre back in L1 which of our 4 strikers they'd least like to come up against 90%+ would say Nichols. Who is the hardest worker? Nichols Who has the best first touch? Nichols Who is the only one who can hold the ball up? Nichols Who is the best in the air? Nichols Who is the strongest when holding off centre backs? Nichols Who is the most creative and best passer? Nichols Who is the most intelligent? Nichols Who makes the best runs off the ball? Nichols Who is the best team player? Nichols Who has the best technical ability? Nichols Who is the most consistent performer? Nichols
The only thing that it could be argued they beat him on is finishing but I'm not convinced 1 or 2 goals really proves that. Nichols is best in every other department game after game in my opinion. I'm sorry but he absolutely does not have the best first touch - he takes three, even during shooting practice in the warm-up. Best runs off the ball? Again sorry but no. This is becoming a modern-day legend. He's been so bad for so long he's somehow become the world's most gifted footballer in people's mind. He's a footballing mirage. You're entitled to your opinion but that's not the way I see it at all.
Ask any fan that's seen 15+ games this season which striker has the best first touch and I bet 75%+ say Nichols. Reilly, Payne and Jakubiak lose the ball almost every time it's played up to them because their first touch is so poor. One of the main reasons Nichols is capable of holding up the ball is due to the fact he can actually control it.
Again, one of the main reasons the team plays better with Nichols in it is because of his good movement off the ball and making himself available to receive possession. I'm not sure whether our other strikers are lazy or simply don't have the intelligence but they seldom make these runs and we therefore lose possession and end up defending all the time.
Nobody is saying Nichols is a club legend or the worlds most gifted footballer, simply that he's currently the best striker we have at the moment. You don't think so and that's fine. It's a game of opinions and it's only DC that has any control over who plays, who sits on the bench and who sits in the stands.
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Post by LJG on Nov 15, 2018 17:49:01 GMT
I'm sorry but he absolutely does not have the best first touch - he takes three, even during shooting practice in the warm-up. Best runs off the ball? Again sorry but no. This is becoming a modern-day legend. He's been so bad for so long he's somehow become the world's most gifted footballer in people's mind. He's a footballing mirage. You're entitled to your opinion but that's not the way I see it at all.
Ask any fan that's seen 15+ games this season which striker has the best first touch and I bet 75%+ say Nichols. Reilly, Payne and Jakubiak lose the ball almost every time it's played up to them because their first touch is so poor. One of the main reasons Nichols is capable of holding up the ball is due to the fact he can actually control it.
Again, one of the main reasons the team plays better with Nichols in it is because of his good movement off the ball and making himself available to receive possession. I'm not sure whether our other strikers are lazy or simply don't have the intelligence but they seldom make these runs and we therefore lose possession and end up defending all the time.
Nobody is saying Nichols is a club legend or the worlds most gifted footballer, simply that he's currently the best striker we have at the moment. You don't think so and that's fine. It's a game of opinions and it's only DC that has any control over who plays, who sits on the bench and who sits in the stands.
But ... it's not a game of opinions. It's a game with a clearly defined points system based on number of goals scored versus number of goals conceded. By that metric i.e. the only one that matters on the last day of the season, he's the worst player we've got for that place on account of his statistics when compared to the other players who are competing for that spot.
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Post by lmgas on Nov 15, 2018 18:07:46 GMT
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Post by z1zou on Nov 15, 2018 21:10:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 23:26:40 GMT
Payne and nichols played in our last league game which was a very good 3-0 win by the team. They played their respective parts in that win so i think the best option for the manager is to play those 2 v scunthorpe.
Regarding the thread lets face it all the strikers have struggled but for me payne is the most likely to score goals out of them.
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Post by axegas on Nov 15, 2018 23:40:03 GMT
It’s been 383 days since Nichols last scored a league goal and he’s been in the starting eleven plenty during that time. As much as I thought he did well on Sunday, you can’t justify starting a striker with that kind of record.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 16, 2018 0:25:50 GMT
It’s been 383 days since Nichols last scored a league goal and he’s been in the starting eleven plenty during that time. As much as I thought he did well on Sunday, you can’t justify starting a striker with that kind of record. So can say hand on your heart your heart you watched Rovers performances at Blackpool and Barnet, as I don't think you did if you are prepared to critise Nichols.
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Post by axegas on Nov 16, 2018 0:29:54 GMT
It’s been 383 days since Nichols last scored a league goal and he’s been in the starting eleven plenty during that time. As much as I thought he did well on Sunday, you can’t justify starting a striker with that kind of record. So can say hand on your heart your heart you watched Rovers performances at Blackpool and Barnet, as I don't think you did if you are prepared to critise Nichols. Yes I can, as stated in my post? I think he’s a good footballer who’s helped us with assists and hold up play this season, I’m hardly criticising the lad, I just want him to add goals to his game. Everyone who went to the last two away games like me would say that’s a fair comment.
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