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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 12:51:24 GMT
'Doncaster play round 3-5-2 The hosts' movement on and off the ball made the Gas' formation look rather static. It has brought them success so far this season, but on Saturday Rovers' 3-5-2 formation looked exposed, particularly on the wings, where Luke Leahy and Alex Rodman found themselves struggling with multiple players running at them. The Gas did switch to 4-4-2 in the second half, but by that point the game had gone. Whilst the way Rovers set up certainly has its benefits against teams that sit off them, the way Doncaster were able to bypass Rovers' .'Summary from an Expert says on FB. It is a problem with 352. Teams playing with fullbacks and wingers will double up on the full back and play one two around him. Good to hear Coggers saw it and went 442 but obviously it didn’t make any difference to the result. Doesn’t help that we’ve not really got enough or good enough wingers to make 442 work. Rodman the only player at the club who’s good enough to play on the wing in this division. Y’see this seems like the problem I have alluded to previously- when you fly under the radar teams concentrate on their own strengths thinking that they don’t need to try harder against you. When you reach the upper echelons of the table teams will try harder to figure you out and negate your strategy. It will be interesting to see how in future we respond to teams who have worked us out. Do we have the personnel to respond? |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 20, 2019 13:12:33 GMT
A lot of talk of formations, but when you persist with long balls to small strikers it makes no difference going forward.
No JCH = No ideas
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 13:32:19 GMT
A lot of talk of formations, but when you persist with long balls to small strikers it makes no difference going forward. No JCH = No ideas Without wanting to denigrate Axegas’s opinion are you agreeing then that the accusation that we are pretty much a long ball team is accurate? |
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Post by socrates on Oct 20, 2019 14:10:34 GMT
A lot of talk of formations, but when you persist with long balls to small strikers it makes no difference going forward. No JCH = No ideas Without wanting to denigrate Axegas’s opinion are you agreeing then that the accusation that we are pretty much a long ball team is accurate? I know your not asking me but against MK we kept it on the floor more than usual and controlled the game fairly well and had all the chances and shots on goal. Wasn’t there yesterday but from the stats it looks like we were outplayed in both half’s. Whether that was because we didn’t get it down enough I don’t know. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 20, 2019 14:11:36 GMT
It is a problem with 352. Teams playing with fullbacks and wingers will double up on the full back and play one two around him. Good to hear Coggers saw it and went 442 but obviously it didn’t make any difference to the result. Doesn’t help that we’ve not really got enough or good enough wingers to make 442 work. Rodman the only player at the club who’s good enough to play on the wing in this division. Y’see this seems like the problem I have alluded to previously- when you fly under the radar teams concentrate on their own strengths thinking that they don’t need to try harder against you. When you reach the upper echelons of the table teams will try harder to figure you out and negate your strategy. It will be interesting to see how in future we respond to teams who have worked us out. Do we have the personnel to respond? When JCH is fit hopefully we do when he's out we don't, but we're fortunate that we've played struggling MK Dons and then Bolton are up next, if the Sunderland game is postponed there's only Pompey to worry about. If we stay mid table or better I doubt many fans will worry what type of football we play, then with the likes of Nichols, Bennett & Reilly gone GC can make his mark next season |
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Post by socrates on Oct 20, 2019 14:11:40 GMT
One things for sure there’s no point in hoofing it down the middle with two forwards that are both about 5 ft 8 and slight build.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 20, 2019 14:15:59 GMT
Without wanting to denigrate Axegas’s opinion are you agreeing then that the accusation that we are pretty much a long ball team is accurate? I know your not asking me but against MK we kept it on the floor more than usual and controlled the game fairly well and had all the chances and shots on goal. Wasn’t there yesterday but from the stats it looks like we were outplayed in both half’s. Whether that was because we didn’t get it down enough I don’t know. Our front "3" yesterday were TN, Smith & OC, none of whom are capable of holding the ball up, so when they ever got the ball they promptly loss possession. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 14:17:24 GMT
Without wanting to denigrate Axegas’s opinion are you agreeing then that the accusation that we are pretty much a long ball team is accurate? I know your not asking me but against MK we kept it on the floor more than usual and controlled the game fairly well and had all the chances and shots on goal. Wasn’t there yesterday but from the stats it looks like we were outplayed in both half’s. Whether that was because we didn’t get it down enough I don’t know. Okay fair shout, I hope we build on that then. Maybe it’s age but whilst in my youth I used to advocate win at all costs after seeing what the likes of Swansea have achieved by having a footballing philosophy the thing I want to see most is a decent DOF come in and a commitment to playing good football with the manager being interchangeable even if it means going backwards in the short term. Coughlan has always struck me as the antithesis of that approach which is why I will struggle to be converted to a fan of his unless he massively over-achieves or gets us playing decent football. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 20, 2019 15:56:26 GMT
A lot of talk of formations, but when you persist with long balls to small strikers it makes no difference going forward. No JCH = No ideas Without wanting to denigrate Axegas’s opinion are you agreeing then that the accusation that we are pretty much a long ball team is accurate? Personally, yes I think we are long ball merchants and we have no real idea how to play any other way. In the short term it has worked against the poorer sides in the league (and this L1 is as poor as ive seen it in many years) but teams will soon suss it out. Any half decent winger usually plays well against us. I think there are enough worse teams than us to prevent us going down, but I think we will end up nearer to the bottom than the top come May, especially if JCH goes, and if I were him I would as we arent heading where he wants to go. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 17:26:07 GMT
Without wanting to denigrate Axegas’s opinion are you agreeing then that the accusation that we are pretty much a long ball team is accurate? Personally, yes I think we are long ball merchants and we have no real idea how to play any other way. In the short term it has worked against the poorer sides in the league (and this L1 is as poor as ive seen it in many years) but teams will soon suss it out. Any half decent winger usually plays well against us. I think there are enough worse teams than us to prevent us going down, but I think we will end up nearer to the bottom than the top come May, especially if JCH goes, and if I were him I would as we arent heading where he wants to go. That’s exactly what I would expect if we really are long ball. Beat the lower ranked sides but the teams towards the top are too cute for our rather simplistic approach. |
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