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Post by cj on Feb 25, 2020 13:42:48 GMT
I am a season ticket holder, and last season I struggled to think why I should buy another one, but the relegation fight showed me how together the team was with Coughlin, and for the first half of the season I was happy that at last we had a tough hard to beat team that won more than it lost. All that has been lost by Garner who has had NO experience of being a manager, and NO experience of Division One. If this "project" is to succeed then I think we are looking at another 2 or 3 seasons, so for me next season will be yet another when we wont achieve much. So I wont be bothering with a season ticket for next season, instead I might visit some of the few remaining grounds I haven't been to. No, all that was lost by GC who left us. Who also had no experience of being a manager before us either.
I also don't think it will be 2 or 3 seasons. I think it would be 2 or 3 transfer windows. He's had 1 already. |
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Post by cj on Feb 25, 2020 13:57:24 GMT
To all those on here who are saying no point buying a season ticket for next season because cant be bothered to watch a team happy with mid table, have a word with yourself. How long have you been watching the Gas? In that period, how many seasons (with 10-15 games to go) have we been involved in a top 6 challenge? I doubt it is many. So why oh why is it any different this time? Over reaction or what!
Probably will be the same bunch of people who will moan when we make Poundland signings because our revenue would drop meaning our wage budget would get slashed under FFP rules. Then more moaning that Wael don't support the manager, even though they know his hands will be tied due to the rules.
We've become a right fickle bunch. Gone are the Twerton days where Gasheads gave 100% no matter what the situation was.
New match day lyrics...
We're Rovers supporters
We're faithful and true
But only when we're winning
I'll turn up wearing my blue (and white)
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Post by cj on Feb 25, 2020 14:01:43 GMT
As for the OP, good gesture to get more fans coming in but as pointed out, not really fair on ST holders. Maybe give existing ST holders £10 voucher for the club shop or a voucher for a free pint and sausage roll each game as a form of compensation.
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Post by baggins on Feb 25, 2020 14:30:45 GMT
As for the OP, good gesture to get more fans coming in but as pointed out, not really fair on ST holders. Maybe give existing ST holders £10 voucher for the club shop or a voucher for a free pint and sausage roll each game as a form of compensation. Or, we could just pay what we need to pay to watch our Team for 90 minutes every other week, or not. Everyones choice. |
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Post by bluebiro on Feb 25, 2020 14:48:49 GMT
The old faithful and true always comes out at some stage of a thread.Always handy to beat down anyone who has a different 🙈🙉🙊opinion.
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Post by bluebiro on Feb 25, 2020 14:53:37 GMT
The old faithful and true always comes out at some stage of a thread.Always handy to beat down anyone who has a different opinion 🙈🙉🙊
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Post by baggins on Feb 25, 2020 15:04:23 GMT
The old faithful and true always comes out at some stage of a thread.Always handy to beat down anyone who has a different opinion 🙈🙉🙊 What's your opinion? |
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Post by bluebiro on Feb 25, 2020 15:23:55 GMT
WHat is faithful and true is very hard to pin down. Is it the person who goes home and away to every game. The one in Australia who gets up in the middle of the night to watch or listen to the game or maybe some who used to go solidly for years and now does a few games every season. Could be anyone but we are all allowed to have different opinions on the club we support.Thats only right
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Post by aghast on Feb 25, 2020 17:19:08 GMT
To all those on here who are saying no point buying a season ticket for next season because cant be bothered to watch a team happy with mid table, have a word with yourself. How long have you been watching the Gas? In that period, how many seasons (with 10-15 games to go) have we been involved in a top 6 challenge? I doubt it is many. So why oh why is it any different this time? Over reaction or what! Probably will be the same bunch of people who will moan when we make Poundland signings because our revenue would drop meaning our wage budget would get slashed under FFP rules. Then more moaning that Wael don't support the manager, even though they know his hands will be tied due to the rules. We've become a right fickle bunch. Gone are the Twerton days where Gasheads gave 100% no matter what the situation was. New match day lyrics... We're Rovers supporters We're faithful and true But only when we're winning I'll turn up wearing my blue (and white) That's very disrespectful to the fans who turn up every week, and are dismayed to see their club falling from 4th in the table to below halfway in a few short weeks. And have endured the pain of just one win in 15 (or is it 16) games. Some of us are concerned that this experiment is being carried out by the wrong scientist. It's not knee-jerk, it's not disloyal, it's not moaning and it's not fickle. It's genuine concern that we might have the wrong man for the job. You've misread some fans. You've certainly misread me. |
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Post by teanbiscuits on Feb 25, 2020 17:31:47 GMT
To all those on here who are saying no point buying a season ticket for next season because cant be bothered to watch a team happy with mid table, Who has said that on here? |
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Post by teanbiscuits on Feb 25, 2020 18:00:53 GMT
While not a lot can be done for season ticket holders, it does put me off renewing after having our season thrown away half way through. Bulldozing a well drilled setup for something that clearly doesn't work and then persevering with it feels like a let down all round to be honest. I don't understand how everyone from the manager to the owners and a fair proportion of the fan base seem to accept this in hope that a miracle can happen in the summer. I was hoping our win would take the edge off this and it did for the short term, nothing apart from the odd 10 minutes here and there convinces me that we can go any further forward than we are now with the current manager. Season thrown away? No, GC wanted out. It's his fault why the season has gone from us. And I bet majority of managers who take over a new club will want to put their own stamp on things and not continue with how the club was run previously, regardless of how successful the club were doing.
I don't blame BG at all. There was a lot of circumstances behind why it was a tough start for BG which is why he continues to get support from the owners, staff, players and majority of the fans.
Let's say BG continued with GC's system, even though it's not what he wants to do but he was willing to keep it going until the end of the season and then do his own thing in the summer. Soon after joining us, he had a transfer window available to strengthen. He would basically be signing players who he probably wouldn't want come the summer as they wouldn't fit in his new system. What a waste of funds that would have been. Whe he could have used those funds to build the set up exactly how he wants now without delay and if it works immediately then great, if not then at least the squad will be truly ready for next season. In all honesty, do you think we would have won promotion under GC anyway? I don't. It was ready to go tits up under him which is why he jumped ship.
You're very wide of the mark with your interpretation of what I said. I don't think Graham threw away our season although it sure didn't help. We were in a strong position when he left and we maintained solid performances between managers too. The majority of other managers putting their stamp on things straight away generally have to because they are in the depths of a relegation battle and that wasn't the situation we were in. I think we should be transitioning into Ben Garners new ideas alot more smoothly than we have. Even now with the players that have been signed we can still go back to how we played earlier in the season with a few tweaks to help us create more chances with a bit of width. As it stands its hard to work out what the long term playing strategy is as we look so disjointed and aimless at times. We won't ever know if we would have gone up but if we are in the position to try then have have to go for its same as anything in life. If we dont think we can be competitive in the league from the start of the season to when its mathematically impossible to go up then what is the point. |
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Post by teanbiscuits on Feb 25, 2020 18:05:57 GMT
Double Post
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Post by CrispPusher on Feb 25, 2020 18:53:17 GMT
Rovers would be knackered if there was a cap on how much a club could charge based on facilities, although a tenner to stand on an uncovered terrace would still be a bit steep.
It's going to clubs, even smaller ones and those lower down the pyramid, and being charged less or the same for a seat under a roof - not made out of canvas, as Rovers do to stand at the Mem that's the most frustrating thing about being a Gashead; however as this has always been the way, we are just expected to accept it and put up and shut up.
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Post by cj on Feb 25, 2020 22:12:03 GMT
To all those on here who are saying no point buying a season ticket for next season because cant be bothered to watch a team happy with mid table, have a word with yourself. How long have you been watching the Gas? In that period, how many seasons (with 10-15 games to go) have we been involved in a top 6 challenge? I doubt it is many. So why oh why is it any different this time? Over reaction or what! Probably will be the same bunch of people who will moan when we make Poundland signings because our revenue would drop meaning our wage budget would get slashed under FFP rules. Then more moaning that Wael don't support the manager, even though they know his hands will be tied due to the rules. We've become a right fickle bunch. Gone are the Twerton days where Gasheads gave 100% no matter what the situation was. New match day lyrics... We're Rovers supporters We're faithful and true But only when we're winning I'll turn up wearing my blue (and white) That's very disrespectful to the fans who turn up every week, and are dismayed to see their club falling from 4th in the table to below halfway in a few short weeks. And have endured the pain of just one win in 15 (or is it 16) games. Some of us are concerned that this experiment is being carried out by the wrong scientist. It's not knee-jerk, it's not disloyal, it's not moaning and it's not fickle. It's genuine concern that we might have the wrong man for the job. You've misread some fans. You've certainly misread me. It's not disrespectful to those who turn up every week because my comments are NOT aimed towards them. It's aimed at those who cant be bothered to go. Not those whose circumstances for whatever reason doesn't allow, but to those who choose to stay away or choose to no longer bother - because we will end somewhere mid table (ish).
I get the endurance. I am enduring too. But the clear difference between me and some on here is that I am taking into consideration of all the facts and circumstances behind how and why we've fallen so far in a short period of time. Some blame the club, Weal or BG and not actually the guy (GC) who screwed us over and walked away when we were 4th and just beat Ipswich and gave THAT post match interview which knocked the team/club/fans for six. Some think BG was the wrong appointment as he has no manager experience. Forgetting GC didn't either. Some forget BG literally had games coming thick and fast without any time to get the players on the training ground. And don't forget the terrible situation he has had at home that meant he had time away from the club. Some just see the results come 5pm only and just don't take anything else into consideration. It's been a terrible start for BG, no doubt about it. And maybe without all those issues that BG has had to deal with and his record was still the same then I would be extremely concerned about the future. But under the circumstances, patience is required. Some hasn't given him any and I actually feel some want him to fail so they can claim 'I told you so'.
After all that, if you still think I have misread anyone including yourself then I am sorry.
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Post by cj on Feb 25, 2020 22:22:36 GMT
WHat is faithful and true is very hard to pin down. Is it the person who goes home and away to every game. The one in Australia who gets up in the middle of the night to watch or listen to the game or maybe some who used to go solidly for years and now does a few games every season. Could be anyone but we are all allowed to have different opinions on the club we support.Thats only right To me faithful and true is giving your best to support your club where ever when ever as circumstances allow.
Comments such as... "next season will be yet another when we wont achieve much. So I wont be bothering with a season ticket for next season" certainly aint faithful and true. No matter how you or anyone would 'pin down' what faithful and true is.
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Post by cj on Feb 25, 2020 22:29:32 GMT
To all those on here who are saying no point buying a season ticket for next season because cant be bothered to watch a team happy with mid table, Who has said that on here? My answer to your question.... ......so for me next season will be yet another when we wont achieve much. So I wont be bothering with a season ticket for next season.... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2020 0:53:38 GMT
Noticed blackpool have had an approach for oxford manager karl robinson rejected.
Just hope they dont go for garner now.
It would be devastating to lose him this early in his long term project.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Feb 26, 2020 8:54:43 GMT
Noticed blackpool have had an approach for oxford manager karl robinson rejected. Just hope they dont go for garner now. It would be devastating to lose him this early in his long term project. Apparently Garner wants the move to be closer to his Mrs in Fleetwood! |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Feb 26, 2020 11:27:05 GMT
In all seriousness. If results don't matter for the next 14 games, and we're invited along to watch glorified training sessions and practice matches, then the club should reduce the ticket prices accordingly. I could not agree more. It’s not on in expecting us to continue to watch dead rubber games. I truly don’t understand the thinking behind this & am looking to the accounts for any clues, if we get them in on time. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Feb 26, 2020 11:29:58 GMT
Only 6 homes left including Sunderland and Ipswich so although we will inevitably get some low gates the overall average attendance probably won't go down over those 6.... And we will be charged extra to see those two games you mentioned. |
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