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Post by wilmslowgas on Feb 26, 2020 11:52:32 GMT
Glorified training sessions are you for real,Sunderland,Ipswich,Lincoln,Rochdale,Shrewsbury and Burton all involved in promotion or relagation,come on Gas let’s beat them all,I’m a season ticket holder and will attend every game it’s better than going shopping just about 😂 UTG Yeah they’re well up for it and we’re apparently happy to just not get relegated. So well probably get destroyed. In all seriousness. If results don't matter for the next 14 games, and we're invited along to watch glorified training sessions and practice matches, then the club should reduce the ticket prices accordingly. I could not agree more. It’s not on in expecting us to continue to watch dead rubber games. I truly don’t understand the thinking behind this & am looking to the accounts for any clues, if we get them in on time. |
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Post by wilmslowgas on Feb 26, 2020 11:54:14 GMT
With the benefit of hindsight, we've been watching dead rubbers from the day GC left.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Feb 26, 2020 14:20:29 GMT
To all those on here who are saying no point buying a season ticket for next season because cant be bothered to watch a team happy with mid table, have a word with yourself. How long have you been watching the Gas? In that period, how many seasons (with 10-15 games to go) have we been involved in a top 6 challenge? I doubt it is many. So why oh why is it any different this time? Over reaction or what! Probably will be the same bunch of people who will moan when we make Poundland signings because our revenue would drop meaning our wage budget would get slashed under FFP rules. Then more moaning that Wael don't support the manager, even though they know his hands will be tied due to the rules. We've become a right fickle bunch. Gone are the Twerton days where Gasheads gave 100% no matter what the situation was. New match day lyrics... We're Rovers supporters We're faithful and true But only when we're winning I'll turn up wearing my blue (and white) That's very disrespectful to the fans who turn up every week, and are dismayed to see their club falling from 4th in the table to below halfway in a few short weeks. And have endured the pain of just one win in 15 (or is it 16) games. Some of us are concerned that this experiment is being carried out by the wrong scientist. It's not knee-jerk, it's not disloyal, it's not moaning and it's not fickle. It's genuine concern that we might have the wrong man for the job. You've misread some fans. You've certainly misread me. I should point out that we played 9 games in December, and most managers would struggle to implement their style of play under those conditions, and with the injuries we had. Since December and the closing of the transfer window, we have seen a steady improvement despite the referees'best efforts - Sunderland being a good example of that. We're all entitled to our opinions, but genuine concern can come across as moaning if you're not too carrful. |
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Post by wilmslowgas on Feb 26, 2020 18:30:51 GMT
That's very disrespectful to the fans who turn up every week, and are dismayed to see their club falling from 4th in the table to below halfway in a few short weeks. And have endured the pain of just one win in 15 (or is it 16) games. Some of us are concerned that this experiment is being carried out by the wrong scientist. It's not knee-jerk, it's not disloyal, it's not moaning and it's not fickle. It's genuine concern that we might have the wrong man for the job. You've misread some fans. You've certainly misread me. I should point out that we played 9 games in December, and most managers would struggle to implement their style of play under those conditions, and with the injuries we had. Since December and the closing of the transfer window, we have seen a steady improvement despite the referees'best efforts - Sunderland being a good example of that. We're all entitled to our opinions, but genuine concern can come across as moaning if you're not too carrful. |
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Post by wilmslowgas on Feb 26, 2020 18:34:37 GMT
"Despite the referees best efforts". Come on. It really is depressing if people consider that our current failures can be attributed to poor referees.
We've had some bad calls. True. But the faults for our failures lay elsewhere. Somewhere a lot closer to home.
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Post by lpgas on Feb 26, 2020 21:42:59 GMT
WHat is faithful and true is very hard to pin down. Is it the person who goes home and away to every game. The one in Australia who gets up in the middle of the night to watch or listen to the game or maybe some who used to go solidly for years and now does a few games every season. Could be anyone but we are all allowed to have different opinions on the club we support.Thats only right I have seen Rovers play over 1,200 times. My car Plate GA55EAD. I have never missed the first game of the season. I have forgone lots of holidays over the years so I didn't miss games. Right now I am very disallusioned with what has happened since Coughlan left. We played with a back 5, we were tight at the back and we played like that because Coughlin knew that was the best formation for the players we have. Along comes Garner, goes to a flat 4 and wins one game out of 16, and that was against a 10 man Blackpool who even with a man down, still managed to cause problems. If anyone thinks this is remotely good, or even, "it will be alright next season" well I cannot see it. Also it's like the club has admitted well this season doesn't matter at the half way point. it's like going to the cinema when the lights go on halfway through and the manager says, its over, go home and guess what the ending is. Well with Rovers we now know what the ending is going to be, below mid table obscurity. For me we could have made the play offs, not won them, but look at the revenue a trip to Wembley might have brought us. At least Garner doesn't blame the pitch, he blames the refs |
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Post by lpgas on Feb 26, 2020 23:03:10 GMT
As for the OP, good gesture to get more fans coming in but as pointed out, not really fair on ST holders. Maybe give existing ST holders £10 voucher for the club shop or a voucher for a free pint and sausage roll each game as a form of compensation. Or, we could just pay what we need to pay to watch our Team for 90 minutes every other week, or not. Everyones choice. Non league clubs have a pay what you want day every season. Imagine if we had one! Some years ago when Cardiff had gone down to the old fourth division they had a "variable price based on their position in the league". They abandoned it halfway through the season  |
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Post by theduke on Feb 27, 2020 13:15:52 GMT
Or, we could just pay what we need to pay to watch our Team for 90 minutes every other week, or not. Everyones choice. Non league clubs have a pay what you want day every season. Imagine if we had one! Some years ago when Cardiff had gone down to the old fourth division they had a "variable price based on their position in the league". They abandoned it halfway through the season I'd like to see Rovers do a form of that. Perhaps just for one game a season. Clubs in Spain and Germany let their fans come in for free to watch training sessions. Essentially that's what we're going to be viewing from now until May as Ben looks to implement his "style" so why not, at the very least, reduce the ticket prices to reflect that. |
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Feb 27, 2020 17:08:59 GMT
"Despite the referees best efforts". Come on. It really is depressing if people consider that our current failures can be attributed to poor referees. We've had some bad calls. True. But the faults for our failures lay elsewhere. Somewhere a lot closer to home. I'm certainly not laying all of the blame on referees, but injuries, a crowded fixture list and BG's own personal problems have caused most of our problems. Tell us about the faults and failures. I'm happy we have a manager who's brave enough to risk not going up to the Championship (when we were nowhere near ready) to implement a more enjoyable to watch style of football. Having said this, I certainly enjoyed winning with the turgid style GC served up. UTG |
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Post by bluebiro on Feb 27, 2020 17:14:17 GMT
May not have been ready. But at least we would of had a crack at it. Bigger crowds. more exposure better players signed. Some live games on tv that earned us more then 10000. What was there not to like. May of lost more then we won but what's the difference from what we have at the moment?
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Post by wilmslowgas on Feb 27, 2020 18:26:39 GMT
"Despite the referees best efforts". Come on. It really is depressing if people consider that our current failures can be attributed to poor referees. We've had some bad calls. True. But the faults for our failures lay elsewhere. Somewhere a lot closer to home. I'm certainly not laying all of the blame on referees, but injuries, a crowded fixture list and BG's own personal problems have caused most of our problems. Tell us about the faults and failures. I'm happy we have a manager who's brave enough to risk not going up to the Championship (when we were nowhere near ready) to implement a more enjoyable to watch style of football. Having said this, I certainly enjoyed winning with the turgid style GC served up. UTG All teams in this league have suffered from poor referees, injuries and a crowded fixture list. It's true that BG has had some personal problems but that cannot be used as an excuse for this turgid performance over 15/16 games. if his personal problems are continuing to adversely affect his functioning as manager, he should ask the employer for extended compassionate leave. If that was the case he would have my full sympathy. On the other hand, if he can manage the team regardless of any personal problems his current level of performance is not good enough. Lets stop making excuses for our relentless slide into mediocrity. He's got the same players that GC had but during his short tenure we have dropped 10 places in the division. As as a lifelong Rovers fan, my expectations are remarkably low. But I did expect better than this. |
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Post by aghast on Feb 27, 2020 18:32:12 GMT
"Despite the referees best efforts". Come on. It really is depressing if people consider that our current failures can be attributed to poor referees. We've had some bad calls. True. But the faults for our failures lay elsewhere. Somewhere a lot closer to home. I'm certainly not laying all of the blame on referees, but injuries, a crowded fixture list and BG's own personal problems have caused most of our problems. Tell us about the faults and failures. I'm happy we have a manager who's brave enough to risk not going up to the Championship (when we were nowhere near ready) to implement a more enjoyable to watch style of football. Having said this, I certainly enjoyed winning with the turgid style GC served up. UTG " I'm happy we have a manager who's brave enough to risk not going up to the Championship (when we were nowhere near ready) to implement a more enjoyable to watch style of football." Now I've heard of putting a spin on events, but that one is worthy of a medal. |
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Feb 27, 2020 20:21:49 GMT
I'm certainly not laying all of the blame on referees, but injuries, a crowded fixture list and BG's own personal problems have caused most of our problems. Tell us about the faults and failures. I'm happy we have a manager who's brave enough to risk not going up to the Championship (when we were nowhere near ready) to implement a more enjoyable to watch style of football. Having said this, I certainly enjoyed winning with the turgid style GC served up. UTG All teams in this league have suffered from poor referees, injuries and a crowded fixture list. It's true that BG has had some personal problems but that cannot be used as an excuse for this turgid performance over 15/16 games. if his personal problems are continuing to adversely affect his functioning as manager, he should ask the employer for extended compassionate leave. If that was the case he would have my full sympathy. On the other hand, if he can manage the team regardless of any personal problems his current level of performance is not good enough. Lets stop making excuses for our relentless slide into mediocrity. He's got the same players that GC had but during his short tenure we have dropped 10 places in the division. As as a lifelong Rovers fan, my expectations are remarkably low. But I did expect better than this. Not true, we had EFL Trophy games and FA Cup games with replays. Portsmouth also in the EFL Trophy had 6 games in December. These were reasons, not excuses. |
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Post by Squiffy on Feb 27, 2020 21:31:32 GMT
May not have been ready. But at least we would of had a crack at it. Bigger crowds. more exposure better players signed. Some live games on tv that earned us more then 10000. What was there not to like. May of lost more then we won but what's the difference from what we have at the moment? ...and don’t forget a chance to resume bragging rights in the local fixture. |
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Post by bluebiro on Feb 27, 2020 22:07:13 GMT
Think this manager has blown that fixture out of the water for the foreseeable future. Maybe lucky in the next few years to play their development squad so not all bad.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Feb 28, 2020 10:34:35 GMT
All teams in this league have suffered from poor referees, injuries and a crowded fixture list. It's true that BG has had some personal problems but that cannot be used as an excuse for this turgid performance over 15/16 games. if his personal problems are continuing to adversely affect his functioning as manager, he should ask the employer for extended compassionate leave. If that was the case he would have my full sympathy. On the other hand, if he can manage the team regardless of any personal problems his current level of performance is not good enough. Lets stop making excuses for our relentless slide into mediocrity. He's got the same players that GC had but during his short tenure we have dropped 10 places in the division. As as a lifelong Rovers fan, my expectations are remarkably low. But I did expect better than this. Not true, we had EFL Trophy games and FA Cup games with replays. Portsmouth also in the EFL Trophy had 6 games in December. These were reasons, not excuses. There is a thin line to be drawn between reasons for our lamentable performance and limp excuses. People are, of course, full entitled to their opinions. Hopefully we can all agree that the current situation is patently unacceptable. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 14:53:13 GMT
Weird thread.
For some it seems 4th place after 20 games = imminent promotion and local derbies.
Full list of graham coughlans promotions below.
Zero
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Post by landrover on Feb 28, 2020 15:07:41 GMT
Weird thread. For some it seems 4th place after 20 games = imminent promotion and local derbies. Full list of graham coughlans promotions below. Zero i have no idea what point you’re trying to make. He took over from your favourite manager’s cock up and saved us from relegation. Along with the players I might add. Then had us in fourth position half way through the season. A weird post for sure. |
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Post by theduke on Feb 28, 2020 15:33:44 GMT
Weird thread. For some it seems 4th place after 20 games = imminent promotion and local derbies. Full list of graham coughlans promotions below. Zero i have no idea what point you’re trying to make. He took over from your favourite manager’s cock up and saved us from relegation. Along with the players I might add. Then had us in fourth position half way through the season. A weird post for sure. Right. Some Rovers fans genuinely aren't bothered about tumbling out of the play-offs/challenging for automatic because they thought it was a false position. Those fans seem to ignore that since GC took charge (around 12 months) that Rovers were SECOND in the form table. It wasn't a fluke that the club were 4th. Whether they could have sustained it is doubtful, but they wouldn't have fallen away like it has under BG. |
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Post by landrover on Feb 28, 2020 15:56:47 GMT
Why would we not be promoted? Wycombe are still in amongst it. As for the ‘promoted too early’ rubbish that’s doing the rounds. Let’s find out first. You need only three teams to be worse than you.
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