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Post by baggins on Mar 12, 2020 12:21:52 GMT
More die of flu every day than this. It's just gotten ridiculous. Are they going to stop the buses? The trains? Close Supermarkets? Close cinemas? It's the fact that there is no vaccine and nobody has built up an immune system to it that is the problem, hence how it is easy to spread so quick. Italy isn't locked down because it's flu Unless you're immune system isn't up to it, hence the elderly and ill suffering, you'll be fine. And people still die of the flu, even after being given the shot in the arm.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 12:27:05 GMT
It's the fact that there is no vaccine and nobody has built up an immune system to it that is the problem, hence how it is easy to spread so quick. Italy isn't locked down because it's flu Unless you're immune system isn't up to it, hence the elderly and ill suffering, you'll be fine. And people still die of the flu, even after being given the shot in the arm. With respect I think this misses the point. Unless we choose not to try and medically treat infected people, there is a risk that our critical care services will be over run. If that happens there is a knock on effect for those that suffer heart attacks and strokes etc. I think you have to look at this holistically to guage what actions to take.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 12:52:17 GMT
More die of flu every day than this. It's just gotten ridiculous. Are they going to stop the buses? The trains? Close Supermarkets? Close cinemas? Approximately 1 in 12 patients identified with the disease are hospitalised and 1 in 6 of these are critically ill. I've never know anyone to die of flu have you?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 12, 2020 12:59:17 GMT
More die of flu every day than this. It's just gotten ridiculous. Are they going to stop the buses? The trains? Close Supermarkets? Close cinemas? Approximately 1 in 12 patients identified with the disease are hospitalised and 1 in 6 of these are critically ill. I've never know anyone to die of flu have you? People die of flu all the time. It's usually the straw that breaks the camels back in otherwise ill people. In a similar way that Covid19 looks more likely to affect those with existing conditions.
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Post by baggins on Mar 12, 2020 12:59:33 GMT
More die of flu every day than this. It's just gotten ridiculous. Are they going to stop the buses? The trains? Close Supermarkets? Close cinemas? Approximately 1 in 12 patients identified with the disease are hospitalised and 1 in 6 of these are critically ill. I've never know anyone to die of flu have you? Nope, but figures show an average death rate of 600 per year. Unless you count 2008/2009 when 13000 died of it. So 1 in 12 are hospitilized? 1 in 6 are seriously ill. Care to put a figure against that?
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Post by gregsy on Mar 12, 2020 13:03:42 GMT
Isn't it a bit irresponsible to down grade the dangers of something that is killing people....
Considering absolutely not one of us knows where this is going....
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Post by Gassy on Mar 12, 2020 13:05:57 GMT
Approximately 1 in 12 patients identified with the disease are hospitalised and 1 in 6 of these are critically ill. I've never know anyone to die of flu have you? Nope, but figures show an average death rate of 600 per year. Unless you count 2008/2009 when 13000 died of it. So 1 in 12 are hospitilized? 1 in 6 are seriously ill. Care to put a figure against that? Flu mortality is about 0.1% Coronavirus is at 3.4% right now. Pretty much tells you everything you need to know. In theory, 2.2m in the UK could die from Coronavirus, based on those figures.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 13:06:52 GMT
No point in playing behind closed doors in my view. Scrap the season and hope to start afresh next season if medical advice warrants this action. Unless its just one or two games football without spectators is pointless. No, it isn`t. It`ll still be 3 points for a win etc, regardless of whether the stadium is empty or not. Dont agree, its not important,just poxy football. Total farce playing behind closed doors.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 12, 2020 13:10:14 GMT
No, it isn`t. It`ll still be 3 points for a win etc, regardless of whether the stadium is empty or not. Dont agree, its not important,just poxy football. Total farce playing behind closed doors. But playing the games behind closed doors can still give the club ways to get income, which could prove vital? EG, advertising on iFollow or other marketing activities?
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Post by baggins on Mar 12, 2020 13:12:05 GMT
Nope, but figures show an average death rate of 600 per year. Unless you count 2008/2009 when 13000 died of it. So 1 in 12 are hospitilized? 1 in 6 are seriously ill. Care to put a figure against that? Flu mortality is about 0.1% Coronavirus is at 3.4% right now. Pretty much tells you everything you need to know. In theory, 2.2m in the UK could die from Coronavirus, based on those figures. Those figures are meaningless. 0.1% of the Worlds population could catch flu and die, compared to 3.4% of a few thousand that have caught COVID19. 2.2 million deaths in the UK because of it? That means everyone in the UK has to be infected.
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Post by Icegas on Mar 12, 2020 13:12:55 GMT
No point in playing behind closed doors in my view. Scrap the season and hope to start afresh next season if medical advice warrants this action. Unless its just one or two games football without spectators is pointless. Ive always thought that this thing was slightly blown over the top until recent days.What I mean that wouldnt spread like it has.Never did I think it would get to a point where countries would be put on lockdown. Reading your posts puts the scale of this thing in full view for me when your are talking about calling off the rest of a season. Maybe the world should be put in lockdown for a few weeks/month until we can corner the illness to where it is right now.
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 12, 2020 13:14:02 GMT
Approximately 1 in 12 patients identified with the disease are hospitalised and 1 in 6 of these are critically ill. I've never know anyone to die of flu have you? Nope, but figures show an average death rate of 600 per year. Unless you count 2008/2009 when 13000 died of it. So 1 in 12 are hospitilized? 1 in 6 are seriously ill. Care to put a figure against that? Another issue is that the more who catch it, the higher the chance of then passing it on to those whom it is more dangerous.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 12, 2020 13:15:23 GMT
Problem is if the EFL suggest games are played behind closed doors how long will it be before games start get called off as one team as to a player or coach etc go down with CV? Real Madrid have just done that leading to all the Spanish games being called off. As far as the Government bailing football clubs out I sense the least of their worries is making sure Bennett gets his £4K p.w salary!
I wonder what will happen to the EFL Trophy game as it's pointless playing that at a closed Wembley!
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Post by meldrew on Mar 12, 2020 13:16:22 GMT
Consider this. If the government decides to ban fans from stadiums, it won,t come into force until midnight on Friday so that the champagne Charlie's can enjoy the Cheltenham festival.
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Post by baggins on Mar 12, 2020 13:18:16 GMT
Nope, but figures show an average death rate of 600 per year. Unless you count 2008/2009 when 13000 died of it. So 1 in 12 are hospitilized? 1 in 6 are seriously ill. Care to put a figure against that? Another issue is that the more who catch it, the higher the chance of then passing it on to those whom it is more dangerous. But it only effects those in ill health. Or aged. Like the standard flu.
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Post by Jomo on Mar 12, 2020 13:30:14 GMT
Another issue is that the more who catch it, the higher the chance of then passing it on to those whom it is more dangerous. But it only effects those in ill health. Or aged. Like the standard flu. My nephew has type 1 diabetes and it would be extremely dangerous should he contract coronavirus. Currently schools are not yet closed, and my sister and brother-in-law are therefore legally obliged to take him to school like any other time of the year. Consider the possibility that he is not taken to the football, but other people in his class are, and they catch coronavirus, then come into school on the Monday and risk passing it onto my nephew. I hear what people are saying, but those circumstances are likely, and it's about managing risk.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Mar 12, 2020 13:30:32 GMT
More die of flu every day than this. It's just gotten ridiculous. Are they going to stop the buses? The trains? Close Supermarkets? Close cinemas? Totally agree. The affect on BRFC will include :- having to pay season ticket holders money back, cost of tickets plus interest seems reasonable, the loss revenue from supporters holding off from buying a season ticket for next season, reduction of future revenue from once supporters turning their backs of the club in favour of other options. I would say Waq will put the club in administration ASAP. Utg
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Post by bluebiro on Mar 12, 2020 13:34:32 GMT
Tbh it was the subject on finance and football regarding the virus that I was interested in thoughts of people rather then the causes and mortality rates of the virus itself.
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Post by axegas on Mar 12, 2020 13:35:43 GMT
Well I’m a season ticket holder and I for one won’t be demanding my money back if all the remaining games are played behind closed doors, the club need the money more than me. I signed up to a season ticket knowing full well that there’s a possibility of the fixtures not being fulfilled, how ever unlikely that may be.
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Post by yattongas on Mar 12, 2020 13:37:58 GMT
It’s reassuring at times like this that we’ve got leaders like Trump & Boris at the Helm
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