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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 7:00:15 GMT
I was only trying to give fans info but if people don't like it, I won't bother coming on here any more . Try to get past it mate, good in you for speaking to Tom. Most fans will respect that, just a shame certain individuals don’t. Let’s be honest even if Wael did come out now, it’s not like Harley or his fans would buy a season ticket, they’d just find another thing to pick at. I want to know what’s going on with the club don’t you,if we are in danger of folding then we might be able too help has a collective fan base instead of us just dying like it feels like we are.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 7:04:11 GMT
I was only trying to give fans info but if people don't like it, I won't bother coming on here any more . I apologise if you feel offended by my comments,I’m grateful for your information like me you are a true gashead and only want the best for BRFC mate.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 24, 2020 8:06:06 GMT
Try to get past it mate, good in you for speaking to Tom. Most fans will respect that, just a shame certain individuals don’t. Let’s be honest even if Wael did come out now, it’s not like Harley or his fans would buy a season ticket, they’d just find another thing to pick at. I want to know what’s going on with the club don’t you,if we are in danger of folding then we might be able too help has a collective fan base instead of us just dying like it feels like we are. Our CEO has told us that the owners are completely behind the club and that Bristol Rovers will definitely survive this pandemic. We’ve also been informed that Wael said he will personally cover staff’s wages. Whilst our communication has been terrible over the last year or so, it’s been much better that last few months tbh. You’re saying ‘we might be able to help’ but you’re just running down and questioning every point wertongas is making.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 8:38:11 GMT
I want to know what’s going on with the club don’t you,if we are in danger of folding then we might be able too help has a collective fan base instead of us just dying like it feels like we are. Our CEO has told us that the owners are completely behind the club and that Bristol Rovers will definitely survive this pandemic. We’ve also been informed that Wael said he will personally cover staff’s wages. Whilst our communication has been terrible over the last year or so, it’s been much better that last few months tbh. You’re saying ‘we might be able to help’ but you’re just running down and questioning every point wertongas is making. How can they say we will definitely survive this pandemic? How long will it go on 3 months 6 months Wael said he would cover staff wages personally that’s a big statement seeing he don’t know how long for. That’s quite a few staff how many staff we got including the players around 50? I don’t know but that’s a big wage bill. You seem to know a lot regarding the clubs state of affairs what’s the owners plans for BRFC because I’m completely confused with no communication what’s happening.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 24, 2020 12:53:30 GMT
Our CEO has told us that the owners are completely behind the club and that Bristol Rovers will definitely survive this pandemic. We’ve also been informed that Wael said he will personally cover staff’s wages. Whilst our communication has been terrible over the last year or so, it’s been much better that last few months tbh. You’re saying ‘we might be able to help’ but you’re just running down and questioning every point wertongas is making. How can they say we will definitely survive this pandemic? How long will it go on 3 months 6 months Wael said he would cover staff wages personally that’s a big statement seeing he don’t know how long for. That’s quite a few staff how many staff we got including the players around 50? I don’t know but that’s a big wage bill. You seem to know a lot regarding the clubs state of affairs what’s the owners plans for BRFC because I’m completely confused with no communication what’s happening. They can say it because they are saying they're committed to supporting the club through these times. Martyn said himself that the club will be here next season. It's funny that a few pages before, people were moaning that Wael should be covering the wages alone, without fan help. Now he's confirmed he will, you're moaning about how can he commit to that? It's just a lose lose situation. The information I have posted is from the Q&A, interviews and my personal messages with Tom Gorringe that I have posted here. It's all public information that is already posted in this thread, feel free to take a gander and have a look.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 13:17:10 GMT
I want to know what’s going on with the club don’t you,if we are in danger of folding then we might be able too help has a collective fan base instead of us just dying like it feels like we are. Our CEO has told us that the owners are completely behind the club and that Bristol Rovers will definitely survive this pandemic. We’ve also been informed that Wael said he will personally cover staff’s wages. Whilst our communication has been terrible over the last year or so, it’s been much better that last few months tbh. You’re saying ‘we might be able to help’ but you’re just running down and questioning every point wertongas is making. But they are still not communicating anything at all on stadium and training ground matters. They can communicate all they like about peripheral subjects but FFS can they not have at least some degree of transparency on the big issue?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 13:20:01 GMT
How can they say we will definitely survive this pandemic? How long will it go on 3 months 6 months Wael said he would cover staff wages personally that’s a big statement seeing he don’t know how long for. That’s quite a few staff how many staff we got including the players around 50? I don’t know but that’s a big wage bill. You seem to know a lot regarding the clubs state of affairs what’s the owners plans for BRFC because I’m completely confused with no communication what’s happening. They can say it because they are saying they're committed to supporting the club through these times. Martyn said himself that the club will be here next season. It's funny that a few pages before, people were moaning that Wael should be covering the wages alone, without fan help. Now he's confirmed he will, you're moaning about how can he commit to that? It's just a lose lose situation. The information I have posted is from the Q&A, interviews and my personal messages with Tom Gorringe that I have posted here. It's all public information that is already posted in this thread, feel free to take a gander and have a look. i think the problem you are missing Gassy is that the people at the top have a history of saying lots but delivering nothing. You cannot blame people for being sceptical can you? Great gesture by Wael to ensure wages are paid btw so lets hope that is honoured but there will be a time limit which at the moment is the great unknown.
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Post by axegas on Mar 24, 2020 13:21:53 GMT
Our CEO has told us that the owners are completely behind the club and that Bristol Rovers will definitely survive this pandemic. We’ve also been informed that Wael said he will personally cover staff’s wages. Whilst our communication has been terrible over the last year or so, it’s been much better that last few months tbh. You’re saying ‘we might be able to help’ but you’re just running down and questioning every point wertongas is making. But they are still not communicating anything at all on stadium and training ground matters. They can communicate all they like about peripheral subjects but FFS can they not have at least some degree of transparency on the big issue? I would accept them not being transparent on the stadium if they were in commercially sensitive negotiations and they had genuine reasons for not disclosing the location of the site, from experience I can attest that sometimes it’s best to keep that sort of thing behind closed doors even if that comes as a frustration to stakeholders. I just want to know that is actually the case and that their recent insipid excuses aren’t trying to hide their inactivity on the issue.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 14:45:17 GMT
But they are still not communicating anything at all on stadium and training ground matters. They can communicate all they like about peripheral subjects but FFS can they not have at least some degree of transparency on the big issue? I would accept them not being transparent on the stadium if they were in commercially sensitive negotiations and they had genuine reasons for not disclosing the location of the site, from experience I can attest that sometimes it’s best to keep that sort of thing behind closed doors even if that comes as a frustration to stakeholders. I just want to know that is actually the case and that their recent insipid excuses aren’t trying to hide their inactivity on the issue. Very much so. However, it’s become a bit “Boy who cried wolf” with regard to confidentiality etc. I don’t see any reason why they can’t say “we’re in discussion with a third party on land” or “we’re in talks with a council over a ground” etc. Other clubs appear to have a lot more openness on such issues but our owners hide behind jargon.
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Post by wertongas on Mar 24, 2020 16:46:36 GMT
I have received a reply regarding some questions raised on here :-
Normally season ticket prices would rise when they go on general sell in mid April, but due to the present situation the club is re considering this but no decision has been made yet.
The owners hold most of the clubs debt, so there is no issues about the future of the football club, the main issue is that no revenue is coming in at the moment through matchday income which is interrupting the cash flow. This is why the club are encouraging fans to buy their season tickets now.
Didn't ask about the stadium, but with the state of the financial markets at the moment any talk of investment is likely to have been put on hold. Stock markets have fallen about a third that's a big wallop for any company.
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Post by wertongas on Mar 24, 2020 17:10:14 GMT
Club are in contact with EFL this afternoon about getting financial help.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 24, 2020 17:47:08 GMT
Our CEO has told us that the owners are completely behind the club and that Bristol Rovers will definitely survive this pandemic. We’ve also been informed that Wael said he will personally cover staff’s wages. Whilst our communication has been terrible over the last year or so, it’s been much better that last few months tbh. You’re saying ‘we might be able to help’ but you’re just running down and questioning every point wertongas is making. But they are still not communicating anything at all on stadium and training ground matters. They can communicate all they like about peripheral subjects but FFS can they not have at least some degree of transparency on the big issue? I understand that point am I'm firmly on side, but I just don't agree with the whole 'it's Wael's responsibility to fund the club during this time' but when we get confirmation he will do it, its suddenly 'how can he even say he'll cover the wages'. These are two separate things for me. We all know the club have nothing to do with the FM deal and that the training ground is connected to it, it's out of their hands. Whilst it's an easy out for them and they can point fingers, it's ultimately the truth and talking about it would put the deal in jeopardy, surely? This doesn't excuse their past failings on stadium/training ground, of course. EDIT: just seen your post about crying wolf with NDA - can't argue with that. They can say it because they are saying they're committed to supporting the club through these times. Martyn said himself that the club will be here next season. It's funny that a few pages before, people were moaning that Wael should be covering the wages alone, without fan help. Now he's confirmed he will, you're moaning about how can he commit to that? It's just a lose lose situation. The information I have posted is from the Q&A, interviews and my personal messages with Tom Gorringe that I have posted here. It's all public information that is already posted in this thread, feel free to take a gander and have a look. i think the problem you are missing Gassy is that the people at the top have a history of saying lots but delivering nothing. You cannot blame people for being sceptical can you? Great gesture by Wael to ensure wages are paid btw so lets hope that is honoured but there will be a time limit which at the moment is the great unknown. I don't blame people for being sceptical, I think all Rovers fans are. At least the sane ones are anyway 😉 But as above, you can't have it both ways where you demand for Wael to cover wages/club, only to then moan how he can say he'll cover the wages.
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Post by bs10er on Mar 24, 2020 17:56:51 GMT
Club are in contact with EFL this afternoon about getting financial help. Just wondered about all pro clubs asking the players to take some sort of pay cut(not on about the youth players or anything)re-Bristol Bears who are taking a 25% wage cut. Seems to me a good idea. 1st team squad players earn a lot more than most of supporters.It surely is worth considering. As for teams in the prem' and some in the championship,well their wages are ridiculous as I am sure we all agree. Not sure if this would get our fans support! Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 18:10:05 GMT
But they are still not communicating anything at all on stadium and training ground matters. They can communicate all they like about peripheral subjects but FFS can they not have at least some degree of transparency on the big issue? I understand that point am I'm firmly on side, but I just don't agree with the whole 'it's Wael's responsibility to fund the club during this time' but when we get confirmation he will do it, its suddenly 'how can he even say he'll cover the wages'. These are two separate things for me. We all know the club have nothing to do with the FM deal and that the training ground is connected to it, it's out of their hands. Whilst it's an easy out for them and they can point fingers, it's ultimately the truth and talking about it would put the deal in jeopardy, surely? This doesn't excuse their past failings on stadium/training ground, of course. EDIT: just seen your post about crying wolf with NDA - can't argue with that. i think the problem you are missing Gassy is that the people at the top have a history of saying lots but delivering nothing. You cannot blame people for being sceptical can you? Great gesture by Wael to ensure wages are paid btw so lets hope that is honoured but there will be a time limit which at the moment is the great unknown. I don't blame people for being sceptical, I think all Rovers fans are. At least the sane ones are anyway 😉 But as above, you can't have it both ways where you demand for Wael to cover wages/club, only to then moan how he can say he'll cover the wages. Fair play to WAQ, I wouldn’t have expected him to offer any personal such guarantees. My beef with the owners is the lack of transparency over the ground and stadium. Even if it’s bad news and we are going to be ragbag rovers for decades I’d rather just know than be strung along with the current ‘things happening behind the scenes’ garbage which we constantly hear.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 24, 2020 18:24:41 GMT
I understand that point am I'm firmly on side, but I just don't agree with the whole 'it's Wael's responsibility to fund the club during this time' but when we get confirmation he will do it, its suddenly 'how can he even say he'll cover the wages'. These are two separate things for me. We all know the club have nothing to do with the FM deal and that the training ground is connected to it, it's out of their hands. Whilst it's an easy out for them and they can point fingers, it's ultimately the truth and talking about it would put the deal in jeopardy, surely? This doesn't excuse their past failings on stadium/training ground, of course. EDIT: just seen your post about crying wolf with NDA - can't argue with that. I don't blame people for being sceptical, I think all Rovers fans are. At least the sane ones are anyway 😉 But as above, you can't have it both ways where you demand for Wael to cover wages/club, only to then moan how he can say he'll cover the wages. Fair play to WAQ, I wouldn’t have expected him to offer any personal such guarantees. My beef with the owners is the lack of transparency over the ground and stadium. Even if it’s bad news and we are going to be ragbag rovers for decades I’d rather just know than be strung along with the current ‘things happening behind the scenes’ garbage which we constantly hear. Yeah I agree with you, I’m just living in hope that there are things happening behind the scenes 😂 I really hope that we’re not going to have a deal fall through by a recession again, we really would be cursed it this happens
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Post by Marshy on Mar 24, 2020 18:41:22 GMT
Fair play to WAQ, I wouldn’t have expected him to offer any personal such guarantees. My beef with the owners is the lack of transparency over the ground and stadium. Even if it’s bad news and we are going to be ragbag rovers for decades I’d rather just know than be strung along with the current ‘things happening behind the scenes’ garbage which we constantly hear. Yeah I agree with you, I’m just living in hope that there are things happening behind the scenes 😂 I really hope that we’re not going to have a deal fall through by a recession again, we really would be cursed it this happens The trouble is that they have another excuse now, and let’s face it no one can argue with this one!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 19:25:15 GMT
Yeah I agree with you, I’m just living in hope that there are things happening behind the scenes 😂 I really hope that we’re not going to have a deal fall through by a recession again, we really would be cursed it this happens The trouble is that they have another excuse now, and let’s face it no one can argue with this one! Unless you are a conspiracy theorist 👀. Should I start a new thread for this? Or just blame Hamer.
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Post by pucklegas on Mar 24, 2020 19:27:19 GMT
Yeah I agree with you, I’m just living in hope that there are things happening behind the scenes 😂 I really hope that we’re not going to have a deal fall through by a recession again, we really would be cursed it this happens The trouble is that they have another excuse now, and let’s face it no one can argue with this one! Marshy the fact is and you are a building expert, it would probably be cheaper to build a stadium in a recession, Total produce might want to push forward the deal, and costs surely would be cheaper.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 24, 2020 20:36:05 GMT
Honestly I think it’s unrealistic to expect any news of stadium developments in the next 6 months at least as the priority will be keeping Bristol Rovers afloat and back on the pitch playing matches. And that includes having opposition to play against as much as our own affairs.
Whilst we’ve been disappointed before by lack of progress off the field of all excuses this is by far the most reasonable one and we can’t knock anyone for lack of visible progress at this time.
Our owners and management are only human and will be locked down like we are, concerned about their health, their families health, their friends, their financial circumstances present and future no matter how wealthy they are. Never before has the whole world been impacted so greatly, so widely, by the same matter at the same time.
I will be expecting nothing.
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 24, 2020 22:09:46 GMT
They can say it because they are saying they're committed to supporting the club through these times. Martyn said himself that the club will be here next season. It's funny that a few pages before, people were moaning that Wael should be covering the wages alone, without fan help. Now he's confirmed he will, you're moaning about how can he commit to that? It's just a lose lose situation. The information I have posted is from the Q&A, interviews and my personal messages with Tom Gorringe that I have posted here. It's all public information that is already posted in this thread, feel free to take a gander and have a look. i think the problem you are missing Gassy is that the people at the top have a history of saying lots but delivering nothing. You cannot blame people for being sceptical can you? Great gesture by Wael to ensure wages are paid btw so lets hope that is honoured but there will be a time limit which at the moment is the great unknown. But would you agree 4th that they have always covered the losses to date? Despite the various misinformation of some, the owners have always made good on that.
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