George Floyd - America so f**ked up

I have asked you politely Tony to stop misquoting me. I was 16 Tony, 1968.
I quoted the year as Halcyon Days AND the fact that people were taking direct action. I have never supported violence.
Give it a Dam rest.
Why not refer to you or own life experiences Tony, if indeed you have any of note.

Thats not entirely true, Oldie.

You're the one whose maintaining the narrative.

I haven't denied that there is Police brutality. There clearly is, but it's you thats claiming that its a regular occurrence. When in reality it isn't.

Were you aware of the incident with a man called Tony Timpa 4 years ago? I bet you weren't.

I've already explained it to you, but of course you didn't want to know that did you? Because again it doesn't coincide with your fake narrative.

I'm talking from experience, I've lived in a City that is over 60% Black, a City which is run by Black people, from its Mayor, to its Commissioner, to its Police Chief, to its School council leaders. Again you didn't want to know because it doesn't fit in with your blinkered narrative.

Black people in the US who aren't of the race baiting persuasions have had enough of this bullshit that isn't at all logical, hence why Trump will win by a landslide which will send people like you into another frenzy.

You already refuse to listen to them.

Because they aren't your type of Black people.

Wake up Oldie.

So now you want to barter experience.
Ok, let's do it.
I lived, worked and ran my own business in South Florida.
The town where we had the main operating plant was an area with a larger ethnic minority community.
I lived in an area which was almost 100% white.
We also had a business just outside Tampa, which appeared to be predominantly white.

The police department in the area of the operating plant employed predominantly black officers, the Mayor was black.

So what was it like...
The local High School was an educational disaster. 90% of the kids were ethnic minorities who left with a rudimentary education, little chance of tertiary education unless through sports.
Housing in a lot of areas was third world. Unemployment and underemployment was rife and an awful lot of the locals were on food stamps and lived in "project housing".
Drug abuse was rampant, prostitution on the streets after dark was everywhere.
The police did there bit, but basically it was zero tolerance. I was on call one night and at 2am my alarm company called me, break in, police in attendance. I arrived to find half a dozen cars circling the building, officers guns drawn behind the car doors (movie style)
The wave me to stand behind and describe the interior, tell me he/they are inside and will be shot as they emerged.
A couple of years later the State steps in and orders the bussing of the students at the local High School to the High School in my residential area.
Cue uproar and a legal challenge.
The State won the case and the kids were bussed. A ton of money was spent on deprived area High School and it was determined a "Magnet School" for kids with higher than average abilities, specifically Math as I recall.
I volunteered with the local Democrats to lobby the County / residents to raise Real Estate taxes to build more schools through the issuance of a bond.
It passed, I think the value was $200 million, paid back by said taxes (as my home was in that area I paid).

This was through the 80s into the early / mid 90s.

Did it change anything? It didn't look like too much when I paid a visit 10 years ago.

Were the residents subject to police brutality? Yep, I witnessed it. Did some of them ask for a response of that manner? Yep I witnessed that as well (I was actually served a subpoena
twice by the DA's office as a witness for the prosecution, which I did)
I was attacked by an employee with a knife for sending them home because of being high on crack.

The point being that society was broken and the police shooting them or beating them up is not going to change it. It makes it worse, because the kids grow up thinking "the cops are going to shoot me anyway", and it comes to pass.

Nobody is entirely innocent in this debacle, but we are not going to stop it, or change it, unless we attack the root causal factors.

In all of this mess, the police acting outside of their own guidelines, outside of the law, be it once, twice or a 1000 times reinforces negative attitudes and so it goes on.

I can't go back, or be bothered to, but I quoted direct action.
Danny the Red in Paris, the student protests in London figure headed by Tariq Ali and Baader Meinhoff in Germany. I also said by 1970 we understood what they were all about (BM) and any fantasy we may have had evaporated. I was 18. It's called growing up. I have been honest about it.
1968, for us kids, was a great year.
Including btw, the formation of the Bristol Sixth Form Union, and celebratory gig at the Dug Out on Park At, featuring the John Dummer Blues Band. Rammed and the headmistress of the Colston (😱) School for Girls threatend to call the cops for under age entry and drinking. Silly bitch.
So you can rant on about the mistakes of a 16 year old if that makes you feel big. Just don't make it up, the honesty I speak is enough, the mistakes on the page. Big Man.

The extreme/far Left are far more..more dangerous than the far Right will ever be.

The far Right are racist scumbags but at least they wear the badge of who they are on there chests for the world to know, and you sadly know where you stand with them.

The far left in there many different forms - Antifa ,BLM , rebellion extinction etc... play the act of the "good guys" by virtue signalling, and try to grab the moral high ground even tho they are morally bankrupt, that will brand anyone some kind of 'ist' if you dare not agree with there view.

The Extreme Left are the new fascist of the world.

I have and do look at the casual factors.

I listed the main one before, but you completely dismissed it, and just said that I was going on a rant.

Yet you say it yourself "Housing in a lot of areas was third world. Unemployment and underemployment was rife and an awful lot of the locals were on food stamps".

I said the invention and the continuation of the Welfare State as it is, has been a detriment to everybody in the US, let alone Blacks.

The years you speak of the 80's and 90's, were some of the worst times, it was a continuation of the failures of these programmes.

In the 20's 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's, when Black people were oppressed, where they couldn't eat, drink or even p*ss next to Whites, where it was apartheid, where Jim Crow laws were still in place, where there was still mandated racial segregation, Black poverty, Black unemployment, etc was lower than it was in the 70's and 80's. Almost 80% of Black Children were being raised in 2 parent households, the nucleur family structure in 1965. By 1985 that had literally gone full circle where nearly 70% of Black Children were being raised by single parent families on Welfare. These are undeniable facts.

The housing projects you speak off in the first half of the 20th century were clean, safe places, people were not shooting and killing each other, there wasn't gang violence, there wasn't drug wars. That was before admissions standards for public housing projects were lowered or abandoned, in the euphoria of liberal non-judgmental notions. And it was before the toxic message of victimhood was being spread. Which created the absolute sh** holes that public housing had become.

There is an average of 9,252 Black on Black murders every year, that's from the NAACP(National Association for the Advancement of Coloured People). Over the past 55 years, that translates into nearly 510,000 blacks murdered at the hands of other blacks. Now you compare that to the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's. To put it down to racism is absolute nonsense, where when racism was rife, where Blacks really were oppressed before the Civil Rights laws, Black people were not killing each other at such alarming rates.

The most devastating problems, it's not just my opinion, it's from evidence and factual data, is the very weak Black family structure along with the welfare state over the last 55 or so years.

Even during slavery, the Black family structure was a lot healthier than it is today.

There are problems such as grossly poor education, economic stagnation and poverty that impact the Black community, like there is in the White, Hispanic, Asian and any other racial group in the United States, I am not disputing that. That's not to say that there isn't still racism in America. Of course, there is.

What I continue to dispute though is that the "Legacy Of Slavery", "Systemic Racism", Institutional Racism", "Police Brutality" is a major factor in modern day America.

WTF is that supposed to mean?

Total and absolute Marxist-speak bollox.

Who?

Anne O. Krueger, a former World Bank chief economist and former first deputy managing director of the International Monetary Fund, is Senior Research Professor of International Economics at the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies and Senior Fellow at the Center for International Development at Stanford University.

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Indeed.

Edward Colston is a divisive figure. A slave trader which unfortunately was a sign of the times, who built much of the City off the back of it.

They could of conjured up a better name than "Beacon" though surely? I also don't see the point unless they are going to change the name of the street it stands on as well, and plenty of others that bare his name in the City.