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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 10:58:46 GMT
The Bristol Beacon name is a truely, sickening and cheesy name.It damm right awlful. But I guess it sums up what a Leftie snowflake city we have become now. Lol you say the Bristol Beacon is more sickening than the name of a man who made all of his money through slavery. I assume you will never set foot in it again. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 12:00:44 GMT
Colston hall being renamed today, been on the cards for a few years but good to see a little bit of progress isn't it. Still happy to occupy a building that was funded by a slave trader though. They might change the name but they can’t change the fact they are happy to remain in a building funded by slavery. Surely a bigger statement would be to leave the building, hand it over to the people of Bristol and buy their own premises elsewhere using their own funds? |
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Post by Icegas on Sept 23, 2020 12:17:45 GMT
The Bristol Beacon name is a truely, sickening and cheesy name.It damm right awlful. But I guess it sums up what a Leftie snowflake city we have become now. Lol you say the Bristol Beacon is more sickening than the name of a man who made all of his money through slavery. I assume you will never set foot in it again. I never said it was more sickening then being named after Edward Colston so stop making up fibs.. Why would I not go there now based on the new name of the Venue..? I just find it cheesy and like abit of virtue signalling from the owners based on its history. It sums up our city of today. |
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Post by baggins on Sept 23, 2020 12:19:52 GMT
Colston hall being renamed today, been on the cards for a few years but good to see a little bit of progress isn't it. Still happy to occupy a building that was funded by a slave trader though. They might change the name but they can’t change the fact they are happy to remain in a building funded by slavery. Surely a bigger statement would be to leave the building, hand it over to the people of Bristol and buy their own premises elsewhere using their own funds? They have their own funds? Funds that have come in from people who couldn't care less about where Colston got his money from? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 12:27:39 GMT
Still happy to occupy a building that was funded by a slave trader though. They might change the name but they can’t change the fact they are happy to remain in a building funded by slavery. Surely a bigger statement would be to leave the building, hand it over to the people of Bristol and buy their own premises elsewhere using their own funds? They have their own funds? Funds that have come in from people who couldn't care less about where Colston got his money from? Or they could crowd fund from all the vocal supporters of the Colston name removal? I’m sure they all felt so strongly about it that they wouldn’t hesitate to give generously. |
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Post by baggins on Sept 23, 2020 12:32:42 GMT
They have their own funds? Funds that have come in from people who couldn't care less about where Colston got his money from? Or they could crowd fund from all the vocal supporters of the Colston name removal? I’m sure they all felt so strongly about it that they wouldn’t hesitate to give generously. See that rock over there? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 12:41:54 GMT
Colston hall being renamed today, been on the cards for a few years but good to see a little bit of progress isn't it. Still happy to occupy a building that was funded by a slave trader though. They might change the name but they can’t change the fact they are happy to remain in a building funded by slavery. Surely a bigger statement would be to leave the building, hand it over to the people of Bristol and buy their own premises elsewhere using their own funds? I assume that's where the beacon bit of the name comes from. Like a beacon of anti racism or some sh1t like that. A bit funny that you are using morals when you'd support a slave trader? Who owns the building? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 12:46:27 GMT
Lol you say the Bristol Beacon is more sickening than the name of a man who made all of his money through slavery. I assume you will never set foot in it again. I never said it was more sickening then being named after Edward Colston so stop making up fibs.. Why would I not go there now based on the new name of the Venue..? I just find it cheesy and like abit of virtue signalling from the owners based on its history. It sums up our city of today. Oh right, you're happy it has been renamed but not the word beacon? It makes you feel sick. |
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Post by blueridge on Sept 23, 2020 12:48:19 GMT
Colston hall being renamed today, been on the cards for a few years but good to see a little bit of progress isn't it. Still happy to occupy a building that was funded by a slave trader though. They might change the name but they can’t change the fact they are happy to remain in a building funded by slavery. Surely a bigger statement would be to leave the building, hand it over to the people of Bristol and buy their own premises elsewhere using their own funds? Not sure it was funded "by a slave trader" - Colston had died around 150 years before it was opened. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 13:07:56 GMT
Colston hall being renamed today, been on the cards for a few years but good to see a little bit of progress isn't it. Indeed. Edward Colston is a divisive figure. A slave trader which unfortunately was a sign of the times, who built much of the City off the back of it. They could of conjured up a better name than "Beacon" though surely? I also don't see the point unless they are going to change the name of the street it stands on as well, and plenty of others that bare his name in the City. Divisive character? A slave trader? Ha. I guess he was somewhat divisive during his working life as well as now. I imagine 100s of thousands of Africans would've have had a different description of him. He wasn't going to take his buildings with him when he died was he. His hair and nails were still on display in the merchant venturers hall until 2016. Bristol Beacon doesn't have much of a ring to it for me either tbh, sounds a bit naff, but not going to lose sleep over it. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 23, 2020 13:10:36 GMT
Still happy to occupy a building that was funded by a slave trader though. They might change the name but they can’t change the fact they are happy to remain in a building funded by slavery. Surely a bigger statement would be to leave the building, hand it over to the people of Bristol and buy their own premises elsewhere using their own funds? Not sure it was funded "by a slave trader" - Colston had died around 150 years before it was opened. The building itself has no direct links but it was originally the site of a number of buildings that were, such as a sugar import house and later the school before it relocated. |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 23, 2020 13:14:21 GMT
Still happy to occupy a building that was funded by a slave trader though. They might change the name but they can’t change the fact they are happy to remain in a building funded by slavery. Surely a bigger statement would be to leave the building, hand it over to the people of Bristol and buy their own premises elsewhere using their own funds? They have their own funds? Funds that have come in from people who couldn't care less about where Colston got his money from? This is the thing, how far do we actually go with this? I've noticed that the majority of people with the biggest voices on these issues are also Guardian readers, Guardian "Journalists" and Writers. They're happy to read, work and write for a publication founded by John Edward Taylor who was a Cotton Trader who made his fortune off the back of the slave trade too, they don't seem to care about where his money came from to set that up, they are happy to read or work for it some 180 years after. I bet most wear clothes that were made in some sweat shop in the Far East somewhere by kids as young as 6. I bet they've all had Iphones or Samsungs which uses Cobalt where kids are down mines in Sierra Leone or Democratic Republic Of Congo digging for it. Where does it end? |
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Post by baggins on Sept 23, 2020 13:24:52 GMT
They have their own funds? Funds that have come in from people who couldn't care less about where Colston got his money from? This is the thing, how far do we actually go with this? I've noticed that the majority of people with the biggest voices on these issues are also Guardian readers, Guardian "Journalists" and Writers. They're happy to read, work and write for a publication founded by John Edward Taylor who was a Cotton Trader who made his fortune off the back of the slave trade too, they don't seem to care about where his money came from to set that up, they are happy to read or work for it some 180 years after. I bet most wear clothes that were made in some sweat shop in the Far East somewhere by kids as young as 6. I bet they've all had Iphones or Samsungs which uses Cobalt where kids are down mines in Sierra Leone or Democratic Republic Of Congo digging for it. Where does it end? Pretty sure Wills Tobacco used cheap labour to make their money. Tate & Lyle sugar plantations? New York Sky Scrapers? South African Gold mines? |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 23, 2020 13:26:17 GMT
Indeed. Edward Colston is a divisive figure. A slave trader which unfortunately was a sign of the times, who built much of the City off the back of it. They could of conjured up a better name than "Beacon" though surely? I also don't see the point unless they are going to change the name of the street it stands on as well, and plenty of others that bare his name in the City. Divisive character? A slave trader? Ha. I guess he was somewhat divisive during his working life as well as now. I imagine 100s of thousands of Africans would've have had a different description of him. He wasn't going to take his buildings with him when he died was he. His hair and nails were still on display in the merchant venturers hall until 2016. Bristol Beacon doesn't have much of a ring to it for me either tbh, sounds a bit naff, but not going to lose sleep over it. A divisive figure yes. Most Cities, Towns, Buildings, monuments or whatever were built by slaves of some sort. Whether it's the Great Wall Of China, The Pymarids, Roman Viaducts, Castles, etc, etc. Even buildings being in built in places like Dubai, Qatar and other places in the Middle East are being built off the back of Slave Labour as we speak. The Atlantic Slave Trade was an unfortunate sign of the times, an abhorant, vile, practice. I think we all agree on that. |
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Post by Icegas on Sept 23, 2020 13:32:12 GMT
I never said it was more sickening then being named after Edward Colston so stop making up fibs.. Why would I not go there now based on the new name of the Venue..? I just find it cheesy and like abit of virtue signalling from the owners based on its history. It sums up our city of today. Oh right, you're happy it has been renamed but not the word beacon? It makes you feel sick. Where did I say I wanted it to be renamed? I was neutral to it remaining being called the Colston Hall, or for it to be changed. My only problem is the reason for it. It was only when the leftie snowflakes started pulling stuff down in there gangs based on a horrible man dying in the USA that this became a issue for many for things to be renamed in our city like the Colston Hall. The Beacon is just a horrible name, I'm sorry. |
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Post by matealotblue on Sept 23, 2020 13:33:26 GMT
Divisive character? A slave trader? Ha. I guess he was somewhat divisive during his working life as well as now. I imagine 100s of thousands of Africans would've have had a different description of him. He wasn't going to take his buildings with him when he died was he. His hair and nails were still on display in the merchant venturers hall until 2016. Bristol Beacon doesn't have much of a ring to it for me either tbh, sounds a bit naff, but not going to lose sleep over it. A divisive figure yes. Most Cities, Towns, Buildings, monuments or whatever were built by slaves of some sort. Whether it's the Great Wall Of China, The Pymarids, Roman Viaducts, Castles, etc, etc. Even buildings being in built in places like Dubai, Qatar and other places in the Middle East are being built off the back of Slave Labour as we speak. The Atlantic Slave Trade was an unfortunate sign of the times, an abhorant, vile, practice. I think we all agree on that. Not sure the 2022 World Cup covers itself in glory with the labour used either...... Edit...apologies didn’t see your reference to that as above. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 13:38:46 GMT
Divisive character? A slave trader? Ha. I guess he was somewhat divisive during his working life as well as now. I imagine 100s of thousands of Africans would've have had a different description of him. He wasn't going to take his buildings with him when he died was he. His hair and nails were still on display in the merchant venturers hall until 2016. Bristol Beacon doesn't have much of a ring to it for me either tbh, sounds a bit naff, but not going to lose sleep over it. A divisive figure yes. Most Cities, Towns, Buildings, monuments or whatever were built by slaves of some sort. Whether it's the Great Wall Of China, The Pymarids, Roman Viaducts, Castles, etc, etc. Even buildings being in built in places like Dubai, Qatar and other places in the Middle East are being built off the back of Slave Labour as we speak. The Atlantic Slave Trade was an unfortunate sign of the times, an abhorant, vile, practice. I think we all agree on that. Yeah exactly, consign it to history and move on if you can. Modern slavery is a little different to the Atlantic slave trade for obvious reasons. You are well aware of how capitalism works, labour is essential to it, so the cheaper the labour the better it is for the capitalists. I'd say there is modern slavery a lot closer to here than the middle east, and that the UK conservatives look at the China/middle-east economic model with envy. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 13:45:08 GMT
Oh right, you're happy it has been renamed but not the word beacon? It makes you feel sick. Where did I say I wanted it to be renamed? I was neutral to it remaining being called the Colston Hall, or for it to be changed. My only problem is the reason for it. It was only when the leftie snowflakes started pulling stuff down in there gangs based on a horrible man dying in the USA that this became a issue for many for things to be renamed in our city like the Colston Hall. The Beacon is just a horrible name, I'm sorry. It was announced in 2017 it was going to be renamed. And confirmed in 2018. www.bristolpost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife/colston-halls-transformation-been-approved-1249527Oh the new name doesn't fit your political preferences, no need to be a snowflake over it. |
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Post by Icegas on Sept 23, 2020 14:56:21 GMT
Where did I say I wanted it to be renamed? I was neutral to it remaining being called the Colston Hall, or for it to be changed. My only problem is the reason for it. It was only when the leftie snowflakes started pulling stuff down in there gangs based on a horrible man dying in the USA that this became a issue for many for things to be renamed in our city like the Colston Hall. The Beacon is just a horrible name, I'm sorry. It was announced in 2017 it was going to be renamed. And confirmed in 2018. www.bristolpost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife/colston-halls-transformation-been-approved-1249527Oh the new name doesn't fit your political preferences, no need to be a snowflake over it. I'm aware of that..however ripping down the Colston Hall letters shortly after Edwards statue was ripped down was a PR saving action nowing that they would be forced one day into it otherwise they would be seen as supporting a slave trader from many years ago. Also no snowflake here just making my view on a forum.. |
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Post by oldgas on Sept 23, 2020 17:31:19 GMT
You may have been 16 in 1968, but you recently posted that you still look back on those times, and specifically the Baader Meinhoffer gang, as being "Heady days". I asked if you really meant it, and you repeated it. The "direct action" that the Baader Meinhoffer`s took, WAS violent. Murderously so. I was working in Germany at the time ( so that`s one life experience ) and very few people who were there, would look back on them with any degree of positive feeling. You do support violence, as long as it`s committed by an ideology that you approve of. To suggest otherwise, is akin to your statement that you put your x next to Jeremy Corbyn`s name on the ballot paper, but that you didn`t vote for him. I can't go back, or be bothered to, but I quoted direct action. Danny the Red in Paris, the student protests in London figure headed by Tariq Ali and Baader Meinhoff in Germany. I also said by 1970 we understood what they were all about (BM) and any fantasy we may have had evaporated. I was 18. It's called growing up. I have been honest about it. 1968, for us kids, was a great year. Including btw, the formation of the Bristol Sixth Form Union, and celebratory gig at the Dug Out on Park At, featuring the John Dummer Blues Band. Rammed and the headmistress of the Colston (😱) School for Girls threatend to call the cops for under age entry and drinking. Silly bitch. So you can rant on about the mistakes of a 16 year old if that makes you feel big. Just don't make it up, the honesty I speak is enough, the mistakes on the page. Big Man. So the Headmistress of Colston school was a silly bitch for threatening to call the Police when her underage pupils were in a Sh1thole like the dug out with twats like you filling their heads with your Marxist crap? Id say she was doing nothing less than her duty by protecting her charges and making sure they were safe, and not having their heads filled with revolutionary crap. |
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