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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 17:56:17 GMT
Still happy to occupy a building that was funded by a slave trader though. They might change the name but they can’t change the fact they are happy to remain in a building funded by slavery. Surely a bigger statement would be to leave the building, hand it over to the people of Bristol and buy their own premises elsewhere using their own funds? I assume that's where the beacon bit of the name comes from. Like a beacon of anti racism or some sh1t like that. A bit funny that you are using morals when you'd support a slave trader? Who owns the building? Who is supporting a slave trader?
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Post by oldgas on Sept 23, 2020 18:00:15 GMT
A divisive figure yes. Most Cities, Towns, Buildings, monuments or whatever were built by slaves of some sort. Whether it's the Great Wall Of China, The Pymarids, Roman Viaducts, Castles, etc, etc. Even buildings being in built in places like Dubai, Qatar and other places in the Middle East are being built off the back of Slave Labour as we speak. The Atlantic Slave Trade was an unfortunate sign of the times, an abhorant, vile, practice. I think we all agree on that. Yeah exactly, consign it to history and move on if you can. Modern slavery is a little different to the Atlantic slave trade for obvious reasons. You are well aware of how capitalism works, labour is essential to it, so the cheaper the labour the better it is for the capitalists. I'd say there is modern slavery a lot closer to here than the middle east, and that the UK conservatives look at the China/middle-east economic model with envy. But China is a Communist utopia, as was Soviet Russia and North Korea is a shining beacon to us all. Why, they haven't had a single case of Corona virus. As we are all aware, there is absolute political and religious freedom in China, just as there is in N Korea. And of course the standard of living in those two countries for all citizens, just as it was in Soviet Russia, is and was the highest in the world. Ho f ucking Ho.
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Post by peterparker on Sept 23, 2020 18:00:29 GMT
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Post by oldgas on Sept 23, 2020 18:17:52 GMT
Lol you say the Bristol Beacon is more sickening than the name of a man who made all of his money through slavery. I assume you will never set foot in it again. I never said it was more sickening then being named after Edward Colston so stop making up fibs.. Why would I not go there now based on the new name of the Venue..? I just find it cheesy and like abit of virtue signalling from the owners based on its history. It sums up our city of today. When it re-opens I will go there whenever there is a show I want to see. I will alśo refer to it as the Colston Hall because that's it's name. I suspect that the vast silent majority of Bristolians will do the same. I notice it hasn't been given some w**k name like the One Call Arena or some such crap like most football stadiums have been renamed. I suspect that no commercial sponsor wanted to waste their money when they knew everyone would still call it the Colston Hall. Just like has happened with the MEN arena in Manchester.
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Post by oldgas on Sept 23, 2020 18:23:09 GMT
They have their own funds? Funds that have come in from people who couldn't care less about where Colston got his money from? This is the thing, how far do we actually go with this? I've noticed that the majority of people with the biggest voices on these issues are also Guardian readers, Guardian "Journalists" and Writers. They're happy to read, work and write for a publication founded by John Edward Taylor who was a Cotton Trader who made his fortune off the back of the slave trade too, they don't seem to care about where his money came from to set that up, they are happy to read or work for it some 180 years after. I bet most wear clothes that were made in some sweat shop in the Far East somewhere by kids as young as 6. I bet they've all had Iphones or Samsungs which uses Cobalt where kids are down mines in Sierra Leone or Democratic Republic Of Congo digging for it. Where does it end? Oh Gastafari, they're not interested in where or how the components of their various gadgets are sourced. They're too busy having a simplistic guilt trip over the priveledged colour of their skin, other people's racism and the name of a concert venue.
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Post by matealotblue on Sept 23, 2020 18:36:28 GMT
What I never understood in all this, from a little while ago, was that well known group Massive Attack, always said they would never play at The Colston Hall because of its obvious links to the man. Fair enough. But they were happy to play on the Downs which, in part, is owned by the Merchant Venturers. Who historically had links with.....Mr C. Oh well....🤔
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Post by oldgas on Sept 23, 2020 19:31:00 GMT
They have their own funds? Funds that have come in from people who couldn't care less about where Colston got his money from?ing. Or they could crowd fund from all the vocal supporters of the Colston name removal? I’m sure they all felt so strongly about it that they wouldn’t hesitate to give generously. Good idea Eric. It would recycle all their dole and benefits money back into the city coffers. And pigs might fly. These people are only interested in demonstrating, tearing things down and graffiti writing over everything. They expect everyone else to pay to put right the damage to they've caused. Ecept of course h
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Post by oldgas on Sept 23, 2020 19:32:03 GMT
Or they could crowd fund from all the vocal supporters of the Colston name removal? I’m sure they all felt so strongly about it that they wouldn’t hesitate to give generously. Good idea Eric. It would recycle all their dole and benefits money back into the city coffers. And pigs might fly. These people are only interested in demonstrating, tearing things down and graffiti writing over everything. They expect everyone else to pay to put right the damage to they've caused.
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Post by oldgas on Sept 23, 2020 19:36:03 GMT
What I never understood in all this, from a little while ago, was that well known group Massive Attack, always said they would never play at The Colston Hall because of its obvious links to the man. Fair enough. But they were happy to play on the Downs which, in part, is owned by the Merchant Venturers. Who historically had links with.....Mr C. Oh well....🤔 Their analytic powers don't extend beyond the obvious. It's a Marxist trait as evidenced by The La La man every time he posts something.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 19:42:41 GMT
I can't go back, or be bothered to, but I quoted direct action. Danny the Red in Paris, the student protests in London figure headed by Tariq Ali and Baader Meinhoff in Germany. I also said by 1970 we understood what they were all about (BM) and any fantasy we may have had evaporated. I was 18. It's called growing up. I have been honest about it. 1968, for us kids, was a great year. Including btw, the formation of the Bristol Sixth Form Union, and celebratory gig at the Dug Out on Park At, featuring the John Dummer Blues Band. Rammed and the headmistress of the Colston (😱) School for Girls threatend to call the cops for under age entry and drinking. Silly bitch. So you can rant on about the mistakes of a 16 year old if that makes you feel big. Just don't make it up, the honesty I speak is enough, the mistakes on the page. Big Man. So the Headmistress of Colston school was a silly bitch for threatening to call the Police when her underage pupils were in a Sh1thole like the dug out with twats like you filling their heads with your Marxist crap? Id say she was doing nothing less than her duty by protecting her charges and making sure they were safe, and not having their heads filled with revolutionary crap. You obviously were not invited.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 19:45:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 19:55:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 20:46:31 GMT
Trump thugs in Louisville Kentucky... This is where we are heading
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 23, 2020 20:50:26 GMT
Not charged with Murder. Rightly so. It's a shame she died of course, but her boyfriend fired the gun first, they fired back. She ended up dead. Yet another case which people are blaming racism for, when there is no proof of it whatsoever. There had been suspicions of drug offences happening at the premises. The Police may have entered the premises the wrong way, and that is what the charge is for. Nothing else.
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 23, 2020 21:06:03 GMT
Trump thugs in Louisville Kentucky... This is where we are heading As opposed to BLM c*nts setting Cities and Towns on fire, terrorising people, Left, Right & Centre. C'mon Oldie, No need for this propaganda.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 21:23:24 GMT
Trump thugs in Louisville Kentucky... This is where we are heading As opposed to BLM c*nts setting Cities and Towns on fire, terrorising people, Left, Right & Centre. C'mon Oldie, No need for this propaganda. Armed men in combat uniform with automatic weapons confronting civilians in their cars? All they need is a Swastika on their uniforms...so sad that a once great country has degenerated into this. You actually defending this?
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 23, 2020 21:45:44 GMT
As opposed to BLM c*nts setting Cities and Towns on fire, terrorising people, Left, Right & Centre. C'mon Oldie, No need for this propaganda. Armed men in combat uniform with automatic weapons confronting civilians in their cars? All they need is a Swastika on their uniforms...so sad that a once great country has degenerated into this. You actually defending this? Like this you mean? Cmon Oldie
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Post by blueridge on Sept 24, 2020 4:31:01 GMT
So the Headmistress of Colston school was a silly bitch for threatening to call the Police when her underage pupils were in a Sh1thole like the dug out with twats like you filling their heads with your Marxist crap? Id say she was doing nothing less than her duty by protecting her charges and making sure they were safe, and not having their heads filled with revolutionary crap. You obviously were not invited. And you’re obviously bullshi£ing as usual Oldie - this is also my generation remember!! Colston Girl’s School wasn’t even established then, it was a boys only school. Do your homework.
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Post by oldgas on Sept 24, 2020 5:16:48 GMT
Trump thugs in Louisville Kentucky... This is where we are heading As opposed to BLM c*nts setting Cities and Towns on fire, terrorising people, Left, Right & Centre. C'mon Oldie, No need for this propaganda. Too right Gastafari. The La La Man is only interested in one agenda.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 5:47:24 GMT
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