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Post by peterparker on Jun 8, 2020 11:22:19 GMT
Maybe not, but doesnt make today right. Why didnt people pull it down 6 months ago? 12 months? 5 years? Or didnt enough people care or couldnt be bothered to organise themselves to do it. Today was an excuse to do it and to 'hide' behind something and has now robbed the significance of its removal whenever that may have been People have petitioned to have it taken down for years. they have and it's still been standing. As I say why did no one taking it upon themselves to drag it down before if they were so offended by it after years of council inaction? It was opportunistic and the wrong way to do it IMO. But what's done is done now and has been said by Marvin Rees and others, it needs to be recovered and put in a museum (most likely MShed) I am not against it being down because of what it means to some people, even if it wasn't my preferred choice for it to remain but accompanied by an opposing piece. Of course now there are the calls for it to be replaced an no doubt there will be arguments over that. Should it be local Black Civil rights campaigners? DJ derek. Perhaps it shouldn't be replaced at all? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 11:24:13 GMT
What were the reasons given why it wasn’t, out of interest? It was decided to put up another plaque to clarify things instead. The council couldn't agree wordings. AHH...yes that puts it into perspective. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 11:27:16 GMT
The last time I checked, this country was still a democracy. What gives black, white or polka dot louts the right to commit acts of vandalism? This lot need to be very careful. They may regret what they've done (if they have more than a few brain cells to be able to reason) There are thousands of people who disagree strongly with their actions, and there may be a backlash A backlash that would involve what do you think? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 11:27:45 GMT
What were the reasons given why it wasn’t, out of interest? It was decided to put up another plaque to clarify things instead. The council couldn't agree wordings. Bloody good read that and it’s interesting how the Merchant Venturers tried to obfuscate the truth- are they going to be in the line of fire next? Very disappointing the suggested wording of the scathing plaque did not get through, hard to imagine anyone would argue against that, despite what good deeds he may have done. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 8, 2020 11:32:31 GMT
Every time I go past the bust of Alfred Fagon at the corner of Ashley Road, I feel sick.
This statue is a personal affront to my heritage.
I'm thinking of throwing a rope around it, pulling it down and chucking it in the harbour.
Will the police be ok with this?
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jun 8, 2020 11:36:12 GMT
Every time I go past the bust of Alfred Fagon at the corner of Ashley Road, I feel sick.
This statue is a personal affront to my heritage.
I'm thinking of throwing a rope around it, pulling it down and chucking it in the harbour.
Will the police be ok with this?
Explain how this is a personal affront. He must be of some lineage categorically opposed to poetry. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 8, 2020 11:37:10 GMT
Jaggas.
WYHHB?
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jun 8, 2020 11:37:50 GMT
Exactly what I was thinking |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 8, 2020 11:39:15 GMT
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 8, 2020 11:42:03 GMT
If it is I will literally beg to be remodded so I can ban the twat again
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Jun 8, 2020 11:58:40 GMT
He's certainly got the moves like Jaggas.  |
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Post by althepirate on Jun 8, 2020 11:59:05 GMT
If it is I will literally beg to be remodded so I can ban the twat again I'm confused Hugo I thought you said this sectioned wasn't monitored |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 12:00:57 GMT
Explain how this is a personal affront. He must be of some lineage categorically opposed to poetry. Neanderthal? Just asking |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 8, 2020 12:10:33 GMT
If it is I will literally beg to be remodded so I can ban the twat again I'm confused Hugo I thought you said this sectioned wasn't monitored Only 1 person has ever been banned from GC. Step forward Jaggas. 1 other came close and was eventually banned for altering their user pic to something offensive but obviously that was seen in all areas of the forum. We have always let this area have freedom, but there are obvious limits as there are in all aspects of life. Free speech is a myth. |
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Post by inee on Jun 8, 2020 12:13:28 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 8, 2020 12:15:29 GMT
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Post by inee on Jun 8, 2020 12:29:51 GMT
No one learns history from a statue. Should have been pulled down ages ago. Do not need a statue glorifying a slave trader in 2020. Maybe not, but doesnt make today right. Why didnt people pull it down 6 months ago? 12 months? 5 years? Or didnt enough people care or couldnt be bothered to organise themselves to do it. Today was an excuse to do it and to 'hide' behind something and has now robbed the significance of its removal whenever that may have been Probably because of the lock down |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 12:35:25 GMT
Maybe not, but doesnt make today right. Why didnt people pull it down 6 months ago? 12 months? 5 years? Or didnt enough people care or couldnt be bothered to organise themselves to do it. Today was an excuse to do it and to 'hide' behind something and has now robbed the significance of its removal whenever that may have been Probably because of the lock down You mean people once cared about the lockdown?! Next you’ll be telling me we clapped out of respect for our key workers too... |
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Post by althepirate on Jun 8, 2020 12:39:48 GMT
I'm confused Hugo I thought you said this sectioned wasn't monitored Only 1 person has ever been banned from GC. Step forward Jaggas. 1 other came close and was eventually banned for altering their user pic to something offensive but obviously that was seen in all areas of the forum. We have always let this area have freedom, but there are obvious limits as there are in all aspects of life. Free speech is a myth. If there obvious limits they are not obvious to me. Some of the worst surely were between Gassy and Nobby so what did Jaggas do to get banned? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 12:43:08 GMT
Didn’t realize it was so easy! Do explain No point explaining to you, if you don't see it happening you are blind to it, maybe it's the wrong colour slaves ? Great input to the conversation, well done. |
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