George Floyd - America so f**ked up

I actually think th felling of Edward Colston may go on to be a catalytic moment in history where the world progressed just that little bit more.

Was it wrong/unlawful how it happened - absolutely. but th bigger picture is Wow, it happened and it was history bein written an in th place we care about. don't under estimate it folks those scenes will be shown for years, an hopefully with Colston's statue put up in a museum it will educate how this man made his money, gave so much to charity but ultimately hundreds of years later was brought down by folk and whose legacy will be taught to kids as a man shown for what he really was. Historians can argue whether he was good/bad/something inbetween but his history will now be highlighted by his downfall on Sunday.

May we all learn and may life be better in a tiny way because of it.

That’s got to be the hope BJ.
UTG!

I do 😆😆

We've drifted a little now but on D Day the British and Canadians landed over 75000 troops, the Americans 57500. We also had nearly 8000 British paratroopers dropped from the air and the Americans 15500. To say the vast majority were not British is to insult their memory.
There were also ~196000 Naval personnel (my Father being one) and I don't have the figures but would expect the majority to be British.

In 1940 this country, along with the Commonwealth, stood alone with what at the time must have seemed to be little hope. Had we capitulated then I am convinced History would be very different. When the Germans went East after cancelling their pact with Russia, the Artic convoys supplied vital goods to the ports of Murmansk and Archangel. These convoys also prevented the Germans forcing a another front to attack Russia via the North of Norway. My Father served on the convoys his ship being sunk whilst protecting one of those convoys. That ship - HMS Hardy - can be seen as my avatar.

I was referring to the 138,000 Royal Navy and Merchant Seamen piloting the ships, including the landing craft taking Americans ashore.

That was around 3/4s of the naval forces.

Hate to be blunt, but where did you learn your WWII history?

edited to add, of those 156,000 there were 73,000 US forces with 61,000 British and 22,000 other allies (more non Americans landed than not using your rationale) and 2/3rds of the aircraft were British.

Correct and murdering 4000 Polish Officers in cold blood.

Given it assumes these are just estimates my numbers differ. I have Americans at 73k (23k at Utah Beach, 34k Omaha Beach, 15k airborne) with Britain at 61k and Canada at 21k. I didn't account for the navy personnel though, 52k American, 112k British, other 4k from various Allied countries. 

But we did almost capitulate, that's the thing. People love to point out Neville Chamberlain being a coward almost and resigning in place of Churchill who had the bollocks to defend. But Chamberlain was CRUCIAL in the war's continuation during the war cabinet crisis, and had Chamberlain not existed it's possible Churchill may have been forced to resign and a peace treaty be brokered, because Churchill wasn't the leader of the party. And if that had occurred it's possible that the Nazis would have been victorious. 

Yeah I'm really curious what'll happen when Liverpool & Leeds win their respective leagues. I expect people out in at least the same numbers as the protests.

Let's hope the country will be equally as scathing on Coventry fans, Liverpool etc about the 2nd wave. I get the feeling they wont - although maybe they will, any chance to blame Liverpool