George Floyd - America so f**ked up

Thing is, the story was about the incorrect arrest (as mentioned above) of the person concerned. No sensational press claims at all. In fact they were, arguably, taking his side in the subject of the article. It was the fact that he was holding such a placard as mentioned that caught my eye. And, it seems, others as well.

I still struggle with the concept that such placard and it's wording would lead to violence.
I am reminded of placard being held by a woman at the anti Trump "Carnival of Resistance" in London
It read
"Trump, I would call you a lady garden, but you lack warmth and have no depth"

I am sure that upset a few MAGA supporters, but you have to laugh, especially coming from a woman.

But the problem is, if people feel that what is written on the placard is the truth.....clearly some do.

It is a normal human reaction to lies

In Trump's case...it most definitely is. 😂😂 But seriously I cannot believe that the overwhelming majority of people who might read a placard would not see it for what is, a placard. I believe people are bit more intelligent (in general) than to start smashing things up because of what's written on one.

Britain's finest.
More people than brain cells.

That one was clearly an attempt at humour and aimed at one person in authority.

The other was, in my view, written to be a serious statement. It was written with a reason, either because the carrier believed it or is trying to get a message out. It is also a long held view by some, attributed to Jimmy Carter's UN Ambassador I recall.

The problem for me is that even if most reasonable people know it to be false, it is still going to raise passions, both by those who want to believe it and by those who think it is believed, such as the EDL.

No, I said "end systematic racism now" is a sh** slogan. Let me be clear, the message isn't sh**, just the slogan. It isn't catchy, easy to chant & it's too long. I'm talking only from a slogan point of view. Shouldn't slogans be 3 words? EG, Kick it out, get brexit done, protect the NHS etc. @gas365 this is why I think it's a rubbish slogan - FYI.

According to me everything that is not black is racist? Where have I said that? I'm saying that statistically speaking, if things were equal then we'd see that in society. At times we would see +/- margins of error, of course. But we don't, do we? Instead we pretty much see in every industry people of BAME backgrounds in worser positions. You can't teach someone who doesn't want to be taught, that's true. But again, unless you're saying that BAME people don't want to be taught (which I assume you're not), then statistically we'd see the same numbers across the situation. But we're not. 

On top of that, it wasn't me personally saying about promotions. It was an internal NHS report that actually found and proved systematic racism. Doesn't matter how you spin it. On top of that, the report was then quashed. 

Coincidence? 


I wouldn't say very little is left. Just look at society. I do think we're probably one of the better countries, but doesn't mean we can't do better. Ultimately it's protests and making people aware of the situation that actually drives change. If nothing is done at all, nothing will change. It might seem or sound revolutionary now, but the change in which it will drive in the long term will only be a good thing for equality. 

Overall, I think it's very easy for people in a majority white country to say "I don't think there's much racism". How do they know? Every statistic tells us there is racism. Sure, it's not as bad as the US - something that I'm proud of at least. Some of you may know I lived abroad recently, my asian friend was killed in the street. The man who did it had photos on facebook of himself in KKK outfits and nazi uniforms. As my friend lied there bleeding from his head, the pr*ck put his foot on his chest as an act of superiority and took photos of him. I've also been with a black friend walking through the streets as pricks threw bananas at him and made monkey chants. 

Genuinely, the whole thing makes me feel f*cking sick just going back to it. I am proud that we don't have this extreme racism in the UK. I want what is best for the UK and I believe true equality is the way to do that. I want us to be the leading and best country in the world, where everyone looks at how the UK does it. As a country, we can do better.

Sorry to learn about your friends, Gassy, condolences.

Your last point is what I want too.