George Floyd - America so f**ked up

Nor would I generally, other than as a warning signal. But Johnson has form, right up to more recently. His comments on Muslim women being the most obvious one. Now he is Prime Minister.
As for 365's comment on Floyd. The guy may well have been a low life, I don't know. But surely we can agree that even a low life cannot be chocked to death on the street by a police officer when, allegedly, posing no mortal threat to that officer? It is this that the BLM movement is addressing, not honouring Floyd as a model citizen. Although of course it suits the media to embellish the story with pictures of weeping relatives at the funeral. But that is NOT the story.
This Churchill thing.
365 says we should give him slack over his pre WW2 record, as he may have to changed. It's another straw man argument because we cannot ever know.
What we do know is that the British voting public did not think so, he was unceremoniously chucked out of office at the first opportunity after WW2.
That tells you all you need to know.

At some point we are going to have to accept history and current actuals and come up with some solutions over what we are actually going to do it about it.

Guesswork,what someone says in a News paper may be about selling copy,what they do in government is very different.
The election in my view was about ending the 3 year stalemate in Parliament and lots of folk held their nose and voted Tory plus the revolt in Labour heartlands was a result of years of neglect and a dislike ofor Corbyn.

Even Keir Hardie said things ( on the House of Commons record) that probably wouldn’t be acceptable today regarding immigration to Scotland....think we have to accept no one is perfect and if you look hard enough we all have flaws in either actions and/or words. Just kind of depends how you want to use it to shape your argument I guess. And for that reason , to me, it’s a largely pointless exercise.

Agree
We can only change the here and now. History informs, removing information and pointers to our history acts as a barrier to learning. In my opinion.
So talking of our Prime Minister...
Talking of the unpublished report into the BAME death rate in this Pandemic,
talking of the far higher death rates amongst lower income groups (regardless of ethnicity)....

THe BAME report is a red herring another piece of information that has now become fact.
It's a report owned by PHE and in draft,even the dear old BBC have made that clear.
It will be put in the Public domain next week at the same time it's issued to ministers by PHE.
The only reason Labour MP'S like Lammy are going on and on about it is because the bloke who drafted it leaked it as well.
No one to my knowledge ever puts draft reports into the Public domain until they have been through a reviewing process.
I get sick and tired of this sort of stuff it's not a conspiracy it's not anyone burying anything it's a PHE report.

Thing is, for me, this just highlights a bigger issue and I guess in reality there ain’t much you can do about it in this day and age except cross check and reference where you can. In that the “social media”, and indeed the press ( both sides of the political divide) are spewing out all sorts of crap to push a narrative and fiction becomes fact in the blink of an eye. If you say something long enough and loud enough...it becomes the truth! You can’t handle the truth...!! (As the man said🤪)

Think I even read somewhere a new stadium was being talked about for BRFC....now that just ain’t right. Surely?

Fed up of all this hate and violence. Wankers on both side of the protests today and last week. All they are doing is causing more division. Why can't we just be civilised human beings