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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 13:23:00 GMT
Who are 'elites'? Compared to the world's poorest people, you and I, sat here messing around on forums are very comfortable I would suggest. So why not you take the lead and set an example. Chanelle Helm, a US BLM spokesperson says that white people who have the means to do so should, as a means of reparation, leave their assets to disadvantaged black people. And that’s where the rubber hits the road. Plenty snarl on social media, demanding their peers change their profile pic or “YOUR SILENCE IS DEAFENING” but ask them to give up their own resources and all of a sudden it gets real very fast Looking forward to multiple posters confirming that they have updated their wills in accordance with Ms Helm's wishes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 13:26:06 GMT
And that’s where the rubber hits the road. Plenty snarl on social media, demanding their peers change their profile pic or “YOUR SILENCE IS DEAFENING” but ask them to give up their own resources and all of a sudden it gets real very fast Looking forward to multiple posters confirming that they have updated their wills in accordance with Ms Helm's wishes. I wouldn’t hold your breath...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 13:50:20 GMT
Latest newsflash Mable Porter from the Black Lives Matter movement (Parrot, GA, branch) has proposed a motion that all white people should ware black underware in solidarity. Outraged non black groups quoted the constitution in defence of their non compliance.
Meanwhile, over in the UK, two Metropolitan Police Officers took a selfie against a backdrop of the bodies of two murdered black sisters.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 13:54:19 GMT
Looking forward to multiple posters confirming that they have updated their wills in accordance with Ms Helm's wishes. I wouldn’t hold your breath... Don't worry, they'll be along in good time. Silence Is Violence remember.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 14:08:30 GMT
Latest newsflash Mable Porter from the Black Lives Matter movement (Parrot, GA, branch) has proposed a motion that all white people should ware black underware in solidarity. Outraged non black groups quoted the constitution in defence of their non compliance. Meanwhile, over in the UK, two Metropolitan Police Officers took a selfie against a backdrop of the bodies of two murdered black sisters. The problem is, your post appears to be an attempt at humour, BLM US members murdering Police officers, their discriminatory policy for attending events and Ms Helm's idea about bequeathing your assets as reparations are all very real. I saw a video of a white mother being turned away from one of their events with a mixed race child, would you like me to find it again and post it? Please be honest about what that organisation actually is. Ref UK Police, what's your point? It suggests to me that the officers are mentally unwell and are clearly unfit to hold any official / responsible position, but the act in itself can't be categorised as racist, or can it?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 14:38:55 GMT
" Ref UK Police, what's your point? It suggests to me that the officers are mentally unwell and are clearly unfit to hold any official / responsible position, but the act in itself can't be categorised as racist, or can it?"
Suggest away. The fact is that two Met Police Officers thought it was "funny" (allegedly smiling in the selfie) to do that. Shall we define all obvious Police "misdemeanors" in their interactions with minorities as the result of some mental condition?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 15:23:48 GMT
" Ref UK Police, what's your point? It suggests to me that the officers are mentally unwell and are clearly unfit to hold any official / responsible position, but the act in itself can't be categorised as racist, or can it?" Suggest away. The fact is that two Met Police Officers thought it was "funny" (allegedly smiling in the selfie) to do that. Shall we define all obvious Police "misdemeanors" in their interactions with minorities as the result of some mental condition? Actions like this certainly don't suggest that the people involved are of sound mind to me, but to reduce the discussion down to 'all misdemeanours' isn't something I'll agree with. And there you go again, framing everything in terms of race / minorities. This is an obsession for you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 15:35:02 GMT
" Ref UK Police, what's your point? It suggests to me that the officers are mentally unwell and are clearly unfit to hold any official / responsible position, but the act in itself can't be categorised as racist, or can it?" Suggest away. The fact is that two Met Police Officers thought it was "funny" (allegedly smiling in the selfie) to do that. Shall we define all obvious Police "misdemeanors" in their interactions with minorities as the result of some mental condition? Actions like this certainly don't suggest that the people involved are of sound mind to me, but to reduce the discussion down to 'all misdemeanours' isn't something I'll agree with. And there you go again, framing everything in terms of race / minorities. This is an obsession for you. Nope. I am quoting an actual event.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 15:48:20 GMT
" Ref UK Police, what's your point? It suggests to me that the officers are mentally unwell and are clearly unfit to hold any official / responsible position, but the act in itself can't be categorised as racist, or can it?" Suggest away. The fact is that two Met Police Officers thought it was "funny" (allegedly smiling in the selfie) to do that. Shall we define all obvious Police "misdemeanors" in their interactions with minorities as the result of some mental condition? No but it’s as well to point out that whilst abhorrent there is not (yet) any evidence this act was motivated by racism (you haven’t said it is yourself but you are bringing it up in this thread about black police brutality). And I am sure the media, well the guardian, will be trying to give this story more of a racial edge because they don’t think we are divided enough already...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 15:58:18 GMT
Actions like this certainly don't suggest that the people involved are of sound mind to me, but to reduce the discussion down to 'all misdemeanours' isn't something I'll agree with. And there you go again, framing everything in terms of race / minorities. This is an obsession for you. Nope. I am quoting an actual event. There's so much information you could have added in place of or alongside their skin colour. Half sisters, a note of condolence, that the officers have been suspended, the Mother's status in the community, but no, go with just the skin colour. Obviously you think it's fair comment, I think it highlights just what you want to highlight and is using a tragedy to support a forum position, which in itself is horribly poor taste, and there it is, both or our positions laid out, others can read and conclude what they will.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 16:32:54 GMT
" Ref UK Police, what's your point? It suggests to me that the officers are mentally unwell and are clearly unfit to hold any official / responsible position, but the act in itself can't be categorised as racist, or can it?" Suggest away. The fact is that two Met Police Officers thought it was "funny" (allegedly smiling in the selfie) to do that. Shall we define all obvious Police "misdemeanors" in their interactions with minorities as the result of some mental condition? No but it’s as well to point out that whilst abhorrent there is not (yet) any evidence this act was motivated by racism (you haven’t said it is yourself but you are bringing it up in this thread about black police brutality). And I am sure the media, well the guardian, will be trying to give this story more of a racial edge because they don’t think we are divided enough already... You are right, I have made no attempt to label this event as anything. I raise it on this thread as a counter balance to the quite idiotic attempts to discredit a perfectly reasonable demand for equality by a minority, by raising silly examples from documents which every one knows will never see the light of day. My point is piddling around like that when we need to concentrate on delivering equality for all. In the case I raised there are questions on why the police did not act when the calls were made by the family, reporting the sisters missing. I guess this will come out in the wash, with some details about the motives of the officers who took that selfie.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 16:35:44 GMT
Nope. I am quoting an actual event. There's so much information you could have added in place of or alongside their skin colour. Half sisters, a note of condolence, that the officers have been suspended, the Mother's status in the community, but no, go with just the skin colour. Obviously you think it's fair comment, I think it highlights just what you want to highlight and is using a tragedy to support a forum position, which in itself is horribly poor taste, and there it is, both or our positions laid out, others can read and conclude what they will. Unlike you, I chose not to speculate on anything. I just raised it as an "event"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 16:54:07 GMT
Just listened to an interview with the mother of the two sisters on R4 PM Show with Evan Davis. Harrowing. Sickening.
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Post by William Wilson on Jun 27, 2020 5:51:46 GMT
Nope. I am quoting an actual event. There's so much information you could have added in place of or alongside their skin colour. Half sisters, a note of condolence, that the officers have been suspended, the Mother's status in the community, but no, go with just the skin colour. Obviously you think it's fair comment, I think it highlights just what you want to highlight and is using a tragedy to support a forum position, which in itself is horribly poor taste, and there it is, both or our positions laid out, others can read and conclude what they will. Having had a policeman as a son in law for many years, and gained some insight into how their, er, minds work; I`d say it was much more likely that the coppers involved wanted selfies with two dead bodies covered in multiple stab wounds, rather than two dead black women. I don`t know for sure obvs, but to immediately assume that skin colour was the prime factor, is indicative of where we are today.
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Post by William Wilson on Jun 27, 2020 5:55:56 GMT
And that’s where the rubber hits the road. Plenty snarl on social media, demanding their peers change their profile pic or “YOUR SILENCE IS DEAFENING” but ask them to give up their own resources and all of a sudden it gets real very fast Looking forward to multiple posters confirming that they have updated their wills in accordance with Ms Helm's wishes. Well, if you think that Oldie is going to leave his cellar of Chateau Croesus to disadvantaged black people, I fear you are going to be very severely disappointed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 6:53:54 GMT
Think if BLM does get traction against the state and the elites, there could be loads of other campaigns that take off... Poor lives, homelessness, modern slavery, gypsies etc... A very long list but would be good to address them one by one or maybe collectively with a proper government/state. Who are 'elites'? Compared to the world's poorest people, you and I, sat here messing around on forums are very comfortable I would suggest. So why not you take the lead and set an example. Chanelle Helm, a US BLM spokesperson says that white people who have the means to do so should, as a means of reparation, leave their assets to disadvantaged black people. Edit. Happy to provide links to stories about what Ms Helm requested, if you require them. Elites are those in political & economic power. That is bit of a basic question, quite sure you are unconditionally trolling now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 7:09:18 GMT
Just listened to an interview with the mother of the two sisters on R4 PM Show with Evan Davis. Harrowing. Sickening. Wonder if they have done the same with white people in the past, will be interesting to find out, if the report/story doesn't get buried that is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 8:04:41 GMT
There's so much information you could have added in place of or alongside their skin colour. Half sisters, a note of condolence, that the officers have been suspended, the Mother's status in the community, but no, go with just the skin colour. Obviously you think it's fair comment, I think it highlights just what you want to highlight and is using a tragedy to support a forum position, which in itself is horribly poor taste, and there it is, both or our positions laid out, others can read and conclude what they will. Having had a policeman as a son in law for many years, and gained some insight into how their, er, minds work; I`d say it was much more likely that the coppers involved wanted selfies with two dead bodies covered in multiple stab wounds, rather than two dead black women. I don`t know for sure obvs, but to immediately assume that skin colour was the prime factor, is indicative of where we are today. If what you say is true and frankly I struggle to believe any human being would do this, then what you say just adds to the evidence that we have real issues with our police force.
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Post by William Wilson on Jun 27, 2020 10:07:57 GMT
Having had a policeman as a son in law for many years, and gained some insight into how their, er, minds work; I`d say it was much more likely that the coppers involved wanted selfies with two dead bodies covered in multiple stab wounds, rather than two dead black women. I don`t know for sure obvs, but to immediately assume that skin colour was the prime factor, is indicative of where we are today. If what you say is true and frankly I struggle to believe any human being would do this, then what you say just adds to the evidence that we have real issues with our police force. Well, what part do you think isn`t true?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 10:14:25 GMT
Just listened to an interview with the mother of the two sisters on R4 PM Show with Evan Davis. Harrowing. Sickening. Wonder if they have done the same with white people in the past, will be interesting to find out, if the report/story doesn't get buried that is. Interesting turn of phrase you've chosen there, story getting buried. Was just going over recent news events and stumbled across comment from Douglas Murray on the murders in Reading last weekend. It turns out that the 3 victims were all gay, I had no idea but here are his thoughts on it;
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