George Floyd - America so f**ked up

So, for those saying the violence was unnecessary.

Would you stand back if someone was making lewd comments directly to your wife or kids?

I doubt it.

Oh dear

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The context in that video 365 was very clear.

That could be understandable if the comments were recorded. What if there is no recording? Would you expect to be able to knock someone unconscious and get away with by saying “they said x, y or z about my wife or called me a racist word? 
A slippery slope towards a violent and lawless society. 

Is there ever a justification for physical violence in response to spoken word? 

He’s running his mouth off, if we gave everyone a smack who shouted controversial stuff then there would be open war-fare on the streets every day, not least in football stadiums! I fail to see what’s so bad about just getting the Police involved given that he wasn’t actually confronting anyone and seemed a bit manic.

Let’s put it another way Oldie, if it came out later that this guy was mentally ill would you still be applauding him getting sparked out and feel that it was justifiable?

Nothing happened when he was running his mouth off. It was when the three blokes got up to leave the train. His stance was then confrontational, it's not clear if anything was said.
Plus, if three black young men call the police complaining of race hate on a tube train, what do you really believe the Met or Transport Police response would be?
I doubt the response, imagine that the black guys think.

No one wants to see violence happen, but sometimes it tends to be the only viable solution. I'd say in this case the provocation was very intense, in an enclosed environment with the current social climate.

Seems you are saying if someone has mental health issues they are not a threat?

Well yes, that’s the unknown factor isn’t it? I can totally understand why people believe nothing would be done. The Met Police investigated that issue with the BAME tube worker woman who was spat on so I don’t think they are as bad as people make out. As an aside I do believe we are in danger of seeing the Met Police as a homogenous hive mind who are all racist, which seems to be acceptable and beyond challenge, however we all know the outcry if we tried to treat BAME people as a homogenous mass so we should be wary of selectively judging one segment of society so as not to cause offence while declaring all out war on another section because it suits what we want to believe about them. The Met Police are like black people and white people and Asian people: some good, some bad.

All I can say is that in that situation myself I would be looking to defuse the situation by not reacting to the gobshite unless he personally blocked me from leaving the train or got in my face. I accept that taking that approach does tend to give people who genuinely have abhorrent views the idea that they can repeat those views simply because no-one will challenge them and thus things never change. However I am confident that that would be my approach no matter who the offending party is however I get the impression that people’s reaction to this video is generally skewed by their bias, eg would people have the same reaction if it was a white guy sparking out a black guy who had been derogatory about the white person’s skin colour? I expect a different tune would be being sung then and the violent person would be the villain of the piece and roundly booed on social media. Such is the way of things in the polarised world of 2020 gender and race politics.

Fair enough if that's your opinion. Not trying to be argumentative but he does kind of stand in the way of the door and turn in a provocative intimidating manor as the 3 lads leave the train.

Oh well, it is technically assault at the end of the day but hopefully the whole story is taken in to account.

I've seen many worse fights in my local pub over the years, and i would think anyone putting this level of analysis into those fights would have to be bonkers! So I'll leave it there!