George Floyd - America so f**ked up

Media only showing the one video at the moment and not the other alleged one of him fighting two cops on the floor before trying to get into his car. Also read that there was an existing warrant for his arrest and a history of assault on police and domestic violence, hard to be sure as mainstream media really don’t want to provide anything negative. May provide some context to why the cops took the steps they did? Hopefully will all come out in an investigation but by then there will be no town left. The rioters will be easy to arrest - they’ll be the ones walking round wearing looted jewellery and using brand new looted mobile phones! 

In the US, whatever colour you are, it`s not sensible to ignore what armed policemen are telling you to do/not do.
To open a car door and reach inside, is just asking to have your life violently truncated.

Is there another video?
Turns out the police in that jurisdiction do not where body cams?
Why not?
Again the guy from the police federation stated that not wearing them was wrong.

Absolutely, it looks pretty damning, but if there is info out there to show due cause then it flips it all on it’s head.

The only thing I hope for is that justice is done and that there is respect for that justice on both sides of the debate. Sadly I feel the finer details will be lost in the noise the way it tends to be when people take sides in such an emotional debate. The Breonna Taylor incident being a case in point- held up as an example of racist cops however when you read the details it seems fairly clear that there was a massive failing of intelligence that put the cops involved in a situation where a guy they suspected to be a drug dealer was shooting at them. A tragic accident more than anything but it hasn’t stopped that tragedy being weaponised to mobilise righteous anger. This could be more of the same....however if it isn’t then naturally I hope those cops get their comeuppance.

Most of all, I hope we can go one sodding week without someone being shot by American cops, the place seems like a war zone with the shootings followed by counter-protests and riots. Oh and there’s an election on the way with the hard left taking on the hard right. The whole country will be a smouldering ruin by the end of the year.

They key thing is, I believe, that neither side of the debate about social justice in the States should jump on the bandwagon caused by another death inflicted by the police.

Let's let the facts emerge. Cameras everywhere these days deny the possibility of cover up, so let them get on with it. It helps if contributors to social media, including here, don't write "I read somewhere" and repeating it as fact.

Btw the description of the Biden/Harris ticket as "Hard Left" made me nearly fall off my chair in laughter.
Equally defining Trump as hard right is inaccurate. He is a frustrated dictator in the mode of Putin and equally as incompetent.

The problem is that almost immediately after the shooting the headlines scream out “unarmed black man shot in back by cops”, the media make no effort to investigate or present any other aspects of the case. You then get the community leaders and politicians jumping on the bandwagon without full knowledge of the facts - all of which helps fuel rioting.

When I first saw the headlines I thought what the f**k has gone on there, this is a disgrace. I wondered what the background was and spent 10 minutes googling for more info. It is very difficult to find anything other than what the mainstream media are presenting, I guess it’s difficult for any journalist to write anything off script? I did find reference to the guy having a history of domestic violence, a sexual offence, being arrested waving a gun around in a bar whilst drunk and assaulting a police officer. There was also reference to an outstanding arrest warrant(?). Perhaps this is why the cops were heavy handed? The other video reportedly shows him wrestling on the ground with two cops before freeing himself and going for his car - the rest as they say is history. It is hard to corroborate these reports if the majority of media are choosing to keep that stuff hidden, we’ll have to see what comes out in the investigation.

For the life of me I don’t understand why people just don’t do what they are told by the police. Regardless of what people think of them they have to be obeyed, resisting, running etc just fuel the situation. Even more relevant when the cops are carrying guns. 

Whilst I might agree that America does need a shake up of its two party system, a system where both parties are so tied in to big money contributions that they are systemically anti democracy and fundamentally corrupt.
You might want to read "The System" by Robert Reich, which exposes the nature of the economy and political economy.

But that not withstanding I believe it is entirely right that women are fighting an agenda there, equally minority groups.
I hope Trump gets smashed and then we will have a holding pattern whilst Biden steers the centre ground. During that time the agenda for the next election will be formulated, under the activism of people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Smart, educated articulate. It will be her generation that will drive real change.

I think the American election will be a lot closer than many think - especially people over here. 

Said it before, give them more guns, it'll be fine.