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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 16:15:40 GMT
Explains what? What conclusions have you jumped to without knowing anything about me? Do you get paid if you refuse to work? I know I wouldn’t. On this subject I notice Lewis Hamilton is commending the American sportsmen and women for going on strike for the cause. However, he won’t be joking them, presumably because it would hurt him personally so too selfish to put the so called ‘bigger picture’ ahead of his own personal ambitions. Lol, how many black F1 drivers are there, name a few black people linked with F1? He is on his own. Is F1 even popular in the US compared to their big 3 sports, it's barely linked to the US. It's funny how some people make things up in their heads to get angry about, perfectly normal behaviour. I tire of the number of times I hear disparaging remarks about Lewis Hamilton.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 16:18:59 GMT
There you go. 365 will be along in a minute to tell us their actions are entirely justified.🤔
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 16:50:07 GMT
Explains what? What conclusions have you jumped to without knowing anything about me? Do you get paid if you refuse to work? I know I wouldn’t. On this subject I notice Lewis Hamilton is commending the American sportsmen and women for going on strike for the cause. However, he won’t be joking them, presumably because it would hurt him personally so too selfish to put the so called ‘bigger picture’ ahead of his own personal ambitions. Lol, how many black F1 drivers are there, name a few black people linked with F1? He is on his own. Is F1 even popular in the US compared to their big 3 sports, it's barely linked to the US. It's funny how some people make things up in their heads to get angry about, perfectly normal behaviour. He makes lots of statements but when it comes to the crunch he is found out. Moans about the government and inequalities in the U.K. but chooses to pay no tax. An opportunity to make more of a stand than kneeling on the floor like other sports stars are doing but because it will affect his quest for a seventh world title he puts personal glory first. I presume you don’t want to explain your previous assumptions about me from my earlier post? I thought generalisations and uninformed assumptions were supposed to be the preserve of the ‘evil right’?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 16:52:30 GMT
Another 102 car attacks to equal the number the protestors destroyed on one single car lot on the night Blake died.
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Post by inee on Aug 28, 2020 16:52:36 GMT
What's awful about this, is that blacks have been killing white cops, white cops killing blacks, whites killing whites, etc etc etc over there for years. Every day this happens. I'm not sure this is so much a race issue (although they have a real problem with this in the US) as it is a gun issue. All of that Baggs. How on earth a 17 year old is able to get hold of rifle is beyond any sense of reasonBut sadly the cops actions in these two incidents bring their attitudes into sharp relief. Bags you forgot blacks killing black, etc Oldie I'm not trying to argue with you but, Are you really as naïve as you sound at the moment, How are people in this country able to get hold of automatic weapons, If people in an unarmed country can get hold of weapons easily and cheaply, then how easy is it to get weapons in a country where they are everywhere, the weapon could be legal, could be a refurbed decommissioned weapon, could have been pinched from somewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 17:00:07 GMT
Lol, how many black F1 drivers are there, name a few black people linked with F1? He is on his own. Is F1 even popular in the US compared to their big 3 sports, it's barely linked to the US. It's funny how some people make things up in their heads to get angry about, perfectly normal behaviour. I tire of the number of times I hear disparaging remarks about Lewis Hamilton. I presume you are implying Hamilton only gets disparaging remarks because he is mixed race? I don’t think he gets a fraction of the stick Wayne Rooney gets. Perhaps people don’t like being preached to by someone who pays no U.K. tax. Steve Lansdown gets criticised for the same reason on here and last time I looked his skin colour was red. For the record until recently I’ve been a massive fan of Hamilton. Not any more but still think he’s the greatest F1 driver in history, at the very least in the same conversation as Schumacher, Fangio and Senna. I don’t have sporting heroes based on skin colour, my favourite sportsman of all time is Tiger Woods despite some of his off course blunders.
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Post by inee on Aug 28, 2020 17:11:39 GMT
With respect the Afro American community have to take some of the blame for what is happening right now. After watching the video a few times I agree with William Wilson. In an era where it is taboo to appropriate someone else’s experience and claim it as our own it is not really surprising that everyone seems able to appropriate the experience of a cop with a live weapon and a suspect who won’t obey orders as he reaches into his vehicle for God knows what and judge them from the safety of their armchairs. It’s easy to say “he should have waited to see what the suspect did” but that scenario must be one of the toughest the human mind can endure and rational decision making Is beset by the panic that you could lose your life in a few seconds. All the training in the world won’t prepare you for when it happens for real with live bullets and an unpredictable target. There is no empathy for that tortured decision making from the protesters though, they don’t care about any other detail apart from white cop, black victim, the rest is just noise and now the town is going to burn and more people are going to die just because the guy would not obey orders and reached into his car. That was the spark in the whole tinder box. Yeah right 365. So a white 17 year old murders two protesters. The 2nd one about 100 yards in front of a police line. He then walks towards the police line with that same rifle swinging across his chest. The police do no confront him, do not challenge him, absolutely do not raise their weapons to confront him. He gets away and is arrested latterly in another State. Black guy, unarmed, is confronted by the police in an alleged domestic dispute situation. He turns away to his car containing three kids. He gets shot 7 times in the back. Now compare and contrast the two situations and tell me the afro American community have a case to answer. For f**ks sake are you blind? Or just inherently racist. Why, or how, can you excuse that? May i ask you a question, if a Black cop, shoots a black person is that deemed wrong, if a black cop shoots a white, Asian or Hispanic person is that ok. The real question is ,is it racist to shoot one section of society or is it a reflex action due to past incidents, i'm not saying that some pigs aren't racist or not corrupt. Perhaps it's time for the law over there to shoot to main not kill, by that i mean take out a knee or an elbow. Yeah not an ideal solution but surely better than death. As for Floyd was it racially motivated, or as i said on a previous post just down to the pig n Floyd having a long standing beef with each other. over the way the cop harassed women in a club they both worked the door on.
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Post by inee on Aug 28, 2020 17:22:44 GMT
I tire of the number of times I hear disparaging remarks about Lewis Hamilton. I presume you are implying Hamilton only gets disparaging remarks because he is mixed race? I don’t think he gets a fraction of the stick Wayne Rooney gets. Perhaps people don’t like being preached to by someone who pays no U.K. tax. Steve Lansdown gets criticised for the same reason on here and last time I looked his skin colour was red. For the record until recently I’ve been a massive fan of Hamilton. Not any more but still think he’s the greatest F1 driver in history, at the very least in the same conversation as Schumacher, Fangio and Senna. I don’t have sporting heroes based on skin colour, my favourite sportsman of all time is Tiger Woods despite some of his off course blunders. Eric you are so wrong red 5 was the best f1 driver of all time . I don't think modern f1 drivers are great, the real greats of f1 are the original drivers or the driver up to the 70's that took real big bollocks to be a driver back then.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 17:31:40 GMT
I presume you are implying Hamilton only gets disparaging remarks because he is mixed race? I don’t think he gets a fraction of the stick Wayne Rooney gets. Perhaps people don’t like being preached to by someone who pays no U.K. tax. Steve Lansdown gets criticised for the same reason on here and last time I looked his skin colour was red. For the record until recently I’ve been a massive fan of Hamilton. Not any more but still think he’s the greatest F1 driver in history, at the very least in the same conversation as Schumacher, Fangio and Senna. I don’t have sporting heroes based on skin colour, my favourite sportsman of all time is Tiger Woods despite some of his off course blunders. Eric you are so wrong red 5 was the best f1 driver of all time . I don't think modern f1 drivers are great, the real greats of f1 are the original drivers or the driver up to the 70's that took real big bollocks to be a driver back then. That’s a fair point for debate on another thread. I don’t know if you ever watched the documentary about the deaths in the 60’s and 70’s (The killing years?) but it was a different game back them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 19:12:01 GMT
I tire of the number of times I hear disparaging remarks about Lewis Hamilton. I presume you are implying Hamilton only gets disparaging remarks because he is mixed race? I don’t think he gets a fraction of the stick Wayne Rooney gets. Perhaps people don’t like being preached to by someone who pays no U.K. tax. Steve Lansdown gets criticised for the same reason on here and last time I looked his skin colour was red. For the record until recently I’ve been a massive fan of Hamilton. Not any more but still think he’s the greatest F1 driver in history, at the very least in the same conversation as Schumacher, Fangio and Senna. I don’t have sporting heroes based on skin colour, my favourite sportsman of all time is Tiger Woods despite some of his off course blunders. I didn't really infer anything. Just that I do hear a lot of disparaging remarks about him. But I agree with you, he made me watch F1 again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 19:14:37 GMT
Yeah right 365. So a white 17 year old murders two protesters. The 2nd one about 100 yards in front of a police line. He then walks towards the police line with that same rifle swinging across his chest. The police do no confront him, do not challenge him, absolutely do not raise their weapons to confront him. He gets away and is arrested latterly in another State. Black guy, unarmed, is confronted by the police in an alleged domestic dispute situation. He turns away to his car containing three kids. He gets shot 7 times in the back. Now compare and contrast the two situations and tell me the afro American community have a case to answer. For f**ks sake are you blind? Or just inherently racist. Why, or how, can you excuse that? May i ask you a question, if a Black cop, shoots a black person is that deemed wrong, if a black cop shoots a white, Asian or Hispanic person is that ok. The real question is ,is it racist to shoot one section of society or is it a reflex action due to past incidents, i'm not saying that some pigs aren't racist or not corrupt. Perhaps it's time for the law over there to shoot to main not kill, by that i mean take out a knee or an elbow. Yeah not an ideal solution but surely better than death. As for Floyd was it racially motivated, or as i said on a previous post just down to the pig n Floyd having a long standing beef with each other. over the way the cop harassed women in a club they both worked the door on. Personally Inee, I find your depiction Police Officers as "pigs" abhorrent.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 19:19:59 GMT
All of that Baggs. How on earth a 17 year old is able to get hold of rifle is beyond any sense of reasonBut sadly the cops actions in these two incidents bring their attitudes into sharp relief. Bags you forgot blacks killing black, etc Oldie I'm not trying to argue with you but, Are you really as naïve as you sound at the moment, How are people in this country able to get hold of automatic weapons, If people in an unarmed country can get hold of weapons easily and cheaply, then how easy is it to get weapons in a country where they are everywhere, the weapon could be legal, could be a refurbed decommissioned weapon, could have been pinched from somewhere. I am questioning a society that allows a 17 yr old to be in possession of a rifle. I question the parents, that kid's upbringing and his education. I have three grandsons living in the States in North Carolina. To the best of my knowledge they have never handled a gun, I know for a fact there are no weapons of any sort in their house.
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Post by inee on Aug 28, 2020 20:16:13 GMT
Bags you forgot blacks killing black, etc Oldie I'm not trying to argue with you but, Are you really as naïve as you sound at the moment, How are people in this country able to get hold of automatic weapons, If people in an unarmed country can get hold of weapons easily and cheaply, then how easy is it to get weapons in a country where they are everywhere, the weapon could be legal, could be a refurbed decommissioned weapon, could have been pinched from somewhere. I am questioning a society that allows a 17 yr old to be in possession of a rifle. I question the parents, that kid's upbringing and his education. I have three grandsons living in the States in North Carolina. To the best of my knowledge they have never handled a gun, I know for a fact there are no weapons of any sort in their house. And yet you don't publicly question a country where 14 year olds can legally own firearms, How can you question the parents ,education and upbringing, without knowing nothing about who they are. Anyone can commit murder it's not exclusively down to parents, upbringing or education. people immediately assume it's the parents fault. In the majority of cases it's down to the individual. Again if someone wants a weapon no matter where you live in the world you can buy one. how would you feel if your grandkids own a gun at some point in their lives and maybe shot someone would you still be inclined to blame parents, education and upbringing. I think that you would not, i think you would question why they did that. as you know they had a good upbringing etc. It's so easy to say it's the parents fault. Again anyone is capable of doing anything whether they are rich, poor, privileged, impoverished etc I know for a fact there are weapons of some sort in every inhabited house in the world, but few are used in anger
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 21:49:01 GMT
Explains what? What conclusions have you jumped to without knowing anything about me? Do you get paid if you refuse to work? I know I wouldn’t. On this subject I notice Lewis Hamilton is commending the American sportsmen and women for going on strike for the cause. However, he won’t be joking them, presumably because it would hurt him personally so too selfish to put the so called ‘bigger picture’ ahead of his own personal ambitions. Lol, how many black F1 drivers are there, name a few black people linked with F1? He is on his own. Is F1 even popular in the US compared to their big 3 sports, it's barely linked to the US. It's funny how some people make things up in their heads to get angry about, perfectly normal behaviour. Eh I dunno, I get the impression Lewis Hamilton is a champagne socialist. He’s got so much money he must be well insulated from the day to day experience of black people on the streets of the U.K. it’s like premier league footballers emerging from their gated communities and trying to identify with working class people.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 21:50:58 GMT
There you go. 365 will be along in a minute to tell us their actions are entirely justified.🤔 I’ve already told you oldie, I believe in the rule of law, no more, no less. The law should be an impartial observer to battles over gender, ethnicity, sexuality etc. How about you tell us about all the laws your mob have broken today and how you couldn’t give a rats ass about it because you believe in civil disobedience (whilst not putting your money where your mouth is)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 21:56:30 GMT
Bags you forgot blacks killing black, etc Oldie I'm not trying to argue with you but, Are you really as naïve as you sound at the moment, How are people in this country able to get hold of automatic weapons, If people in an unarmed country can get hold of weapons easily and cheaply, then how easy is it to get weapons in a country where they are everywhere, the weapon could be legal, could be a refurbed decommissioned weapon, could have been pinched from somewhere. I am questioning a society that allows a 17 yr old to be in possession of a rifle. I question the parents, that kid's upbringing and his education. I have three grandsons living in the States in North Carolina. To the best of my knowledge they have never handled a gun, I know for a fact there are no weapons of any sort in their house. Would you encourage them to walk away from armed police officers?
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Post by William Wilson on Aug 29, 2020 6:02:12 GMT
I see armed civilians were on the streets in Wisconsin shooting at protesters. 2 killed. Sad video circulating of those armed civilians being praised by the police and supplying them with water. Anarchy rules. You were the one who called for "civil disobedience". Enjoy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 8:23:28 GMT
I see armed civilians were on the streets in Wisconsin shooting at protesters. 2 killed. Sad video circulating of those armed civilians being praised by the police and supplying them with water. Anarchy rules. You were the one who called for "civil disobedience". Enjoy. If you equate armed vigilantes with civil disobedience then you are either incredibly ill informed or deliberately bending reality to suit your viewpoint.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 9:16:54 GMT
I am questioning a society that allows a 17 yr old to be in possession of a rifle. I question the parents, that kid's upbringing and his education. I have three grandsons living in the States in North Carolina. To the best of my knowledge they have never handled a gun, I know for a fact there are no weapons of any sort in their house. Would you encourage them to walk away from armed police officers? Absolutely not. But they do not carry guns, do not break the law and are respectful of those they disagree with. (The two eldest attended two BLM rallies in Charlotte) If you are referring to Blake I said from the outset we need to wait for the official account of what happened that led to him being shot 7 times in the back. Any further reference, which is stark by contrast, was to the treatment of the 17 year old who shot 3 people and killed 2 and his subsequent treatment that night by police. For me the police are in a hole over this, regardless of what Blake did or did not do. The time it is taking to get an official detailed response from the police authorities is ominous I think.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 9:19:14 GMT
There you go. 365 will be along in a minute to tell us their actions are entirely justified.🤔 I’ve already told you oldie, I believe in the rule of law, no more, no less. The law should be an impartial observer to battles over gender, ethnicity, sexuality etc. How about you tell us about all the laws your mob have broken today and how you couldn’t give a rats ass about it because you believe in civil disobedience (whilst not putting your money where your mouth is) My mob?? Couldn't give a rat's ass? Money where my mouth is. Come on, you are better than that.
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