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Post by Gastafari on Sept 10, 2020 19:56:23 GMT
Just been reading a bit about Sasha Johnson. Had never heard of her before but one of the Leaders of BLM UK apparently. Chucked off twitter for saying white people with never be their equal but our slaves. Nice. Also shouted down a black guy with opposing views - repeatedly calling him a c**n. Nice. Just the sort of person we need to help Race relations. Just like I mentioned regarding Larry Elder etc, they are also called Coons and the other slurs because of the facts they provide not just opinions or opposing views. This is what we're dealing with here, and over in the US. BLM are destroying race relations, the organisation was created and is still run by a bunch of militant Marxist lesbians who despise men, all they want to do is get rid of the nuclear family, defund the police and end capitalism, all of those will effect the Black communities more than anyone else. They are complete oxymorons. BLM couldn't care less about the majority of Black lives, if they did they'd worry about the thousands of Black lives lost through gang violence, gun crime and murders every year, they'd also worry about that in some cities more Black babies are being aborted than being born through planned parenthood(Which is another oxymoron, planned parenthood was created by a woman called Margaret Sanger, a racist, who despised Black people and was into Eugenics), but they don't. They just throw about propaganda and false narratives to hoodwink people when incidents as rare as being struck by lightning occur, like what happened to George Floyd. The organisation is a complete sham, funded by, you guessed it democrats, which is yet another oxymoron when you consider Democrats were the KKK, Jim Crow, Confederates etc, the list can go on. Funny how they want to go back in history all the time on certain things, and bang on about oppression yet fully support and get funding from organisations and partys who have historically been to the detriment of Blacks along with pretty much every racial group in America Ever wondered why these sort of protests seem to happen every time its an election year? You do have to give the marketing team at BLM huge kudos though. Its a fantastic slogan |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 19:58:58 GMT
I am glad you speak from the perspective of someone who has lived there. I agree the more offensive forms of racism and prejudice are not as visible as the recent past. But, given your experience of living there, what's your view on why 100% of kids in inner city Baltimore MD are poor enough to qualify for school meal subsidies? Of that 100% 62.5% are from minority backgrounds. Why? Baltimore is a huge City, the population is about 600,000, but I would say there are probably around 30,000 abandoned homes, and the population 40 years ago was close to 1,000,000 it's a City that has been in decline for decades. It's not just a Black issue, you're right it has an over 60% Black majority population, but the majority of the White population in Baltimore live below or are close to the poverty line too. I lived in Fells Point which is gentrified and pretty affluent, right by the inner harbour(Which is beautiful by the way), but apart from that the only other place you would call nice is Hampden which is right on the outskirts of Baltimore, nearer the county than the City which is a middle class suburb. The rest of the City is a crumbling mess The majority of Baltimore neighbourhoods are not that pleasant, Little Italy and Pigtown are 2 of the worst and they're predominantly "White" neighbourhoods. Baltimore has also been a Democrat run City for nearly 60 years, it has had Black Mayors, Black Senators, Black Commissioners, Black Police Chiefs etc, it's not just Baltimore either, plenty of Democrat run Cities, one's i've already mentioned Chicago and Milwaukee, plus Detroit and St Louis and a whole host of others have also been run by Democrats where the people who have been running them have been Black too with similar outcomes. These Democrat politicians are oblivious to the connection between there so called 'progressive policies' and the demise of the American family, and the burden placed upon job creators, they're clueless. Do you think the Black families started being broken up, and single mothers started being on welfare, just because?? Those figures are 3 times worse now than they were 60 years ago. The narrative should not be that Black people are oppressed, it should be that the Democrats have let poverty and decay fester in their Cities for both Blacks & Whites. People i've mentioned like the Larry Elder, Thomas Sowell and Ben Carson, get called Uncle Tom, Coon, Boot Lickers, House N*ggers constantly for dealing with facts and logic rather than these false narratives and victimhood. America elected a Black President, not for just 1 term but also re-elected him for a 2nd, he was in charge for 8 years, with him at the helm, it got worse, because he too was a Democrat who allowed this to happen in those Cities. To be brutally honest mate, I find your characterisation of the problems at hand just a bit sad. You are depicting the issues within the narrow prism of party politics. The issues are much bigger than that. You touch on the fact that this is not a specific race related issue and I agree. The problem is, from an Afro American perspective, that Afro Americans are overly represented in the inner city areas of place like Baltimore. So the question is why? You could, they would, put it down to racism, that certainly is a factor (in my opinion). But the real issue is income distribution, a distribution curve where a large segment of society are permanently trapped on the base end of that curve. It's the same in the UK, but less pronounced along racial lines. But, if you find yourself trapped in at the bottom of the curve I describe, then you add in other and incremental forms of prejudice such as racial, us it really surprising things boil over? |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 10, 2020 20:03:43 GMT
Baltimore is a huge City, the population is about 600,000, but I would say there are probably around 30,000 abandoned homes, and the population 40 years ago was close to 1,000,000 it's a City that has been in decline for decades. It's not just a Black issue, you're right it has an over 60% Black majority population, but the majority of the White population in Baltimore live below or are close to the poverty line too. I lived in Fells Point which is gentrified and pretty affluent, right by the inner harbour(Which is beautiful by the way), but apart from that the only other place you would call nice is Hampden which is right on the outskirts of Baltimore, nearer the county than the City which is a middle class suburb. The rest of the City is a crumbling mess The majority of Baltimore neighbourhoods are not that pleasant, Little Italy and Pigtown are 2 of the worst and they're predominantly "White" neighbourhoods. Baltimore has also been a Democrat run City for nearly 60 years, it has had Black Mayors, Black Senators, Black Commissioners, Black Police Chiefs etc, it's not just Baltimore either, plenty of Democrat run Cities, one's i've already mentioned Chicago and Milwaukee, plus Detroit and St Louis and a whole host of others have also been run by Democrats where the people who have been running them have been Black too with similar outcomes. These Democrat politicians are oblivious to the connection between there so called 'progressive policies' and the demise of the American family, and the burden placed upon job creators, they're clueless. Do you think the Black families started being broken up, and single mothers started being on welfare, just because?? Those figures are 3 times worse now than they were 60 years ago. The narrative should not be that Black people are oppressed, it should be that the Democrats have let poverty and decay fester in their Cities for both Blacks & Whites. People i've mentioned like the Larry Elder, Thomas Sowell and Ben Carson, get called Uncle Tom, Coon, Boot Lickers, House N*ggers constantly for dealing with facts and logic rather than these false narratives and victimhood. America elected a Black President, not for just 1 term but also re-elected him for a 2nd, he was in charge for 8 years, with him at the helm, it got worse, because he too was a Democrat who allowed this to happen in those Cities. To be brutally honest mate, I find your characterisation of the problems at hand just a bit sad. You are depicting the issues within the narrow prism of party politics. The issues are much bigger than that. You touch on the fact that this is not a specific race related issue and I agree. The problem is, from an Afro American perspective, that Afro Americans are overly represented in the inner city areas of place like Baltimore. So the question is why? You could, they would, put it down to racism, that certainly is a factor (in my opinion). But the real issue is income distribution, a distribution curve where a large segment of society are permanently trapped on the base end of that curve. It's the same in the UK, but less pronounced along racial lines. But, if you find yourself trapped in at the bottom of the curve I describe, then you add in other and incremental forms of prejudice such as racial, us it really surprising things boil over? The people who run Baltimore are Black, in pretty much every department. So are they racist towards their own race now? Cmon. I suppose White people in the US are also oppressed, as Asian-Americans, i.e Korean, Chinese, Japanese heritage out perform them in pretty much every sector you can imagine. Must be all down to racism. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 21:18:14 GMT
To be brutally honest mate, I find your characterisation of the problems at hand just a bit sad. You are depicting the issues within the narrow prism of party politics. The issues are much bigger than that. You touch on the fact that this is not a specific race related issue and I agree. The problem is, from an Afro American perspective, that Afro Americans are overly represented in the inner city areas of place like Baltimore. So the question is why? You could, they would, put it down to racism, that certainly is a factor (in my opinion). But the real issue is income distribution, a distribution curve where a large segment of society are permanently trapped on the base end of that curve. It's the same in the UK, but less pronounced along racial lines. But, if you find yourself trapped in at the bottom of the curve I describe, then you add in other and incremental forms of prejudice such as racial, us it really surprising things boil over? The people who run Baltimore are Black, in pretty much every department. So are they racist towards their own race now? Cmon. I suppose White people in the US are also oppressed, as Asian-Americans, i.e Korean, Chinese, Japanese heritage out perform them in pretty much every sector you can imagine. Must be all down to racism. You are not addressing the point I raised which, as I said, transcends race. But the question of race arises when a disproportionate % of one race is represented. You have already conceded that this is the case, but you still insist on defining the causal factors as party political, which they are not. |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 10, 2020 22:00:44 GMT
The people who run Baltimore are Black, in pretty much every department. So are they racist towards their own race now? Cmon. I suppose White people in the US are also oppressed, as Asian-Americans, i.e Korean, Chinese, Japanese heritage out perform them in pretty much every sector you can imagine. Must be all down to racism. You are not addressing the point I raised which, as I said, transcends race. But the question of race arises when a disproportionate % of one race is represented. You have already conceded that this is the case, but you still insist on defining the causal factors as party political, which they are not. I am. I have addressed it several times. I've mentioned the false narratives and victimhood already. Baltimores poverty is not dispropionate towards Black people. The % of the population is majority Black, yes, but its a poor City full stop. The majority of the White population also live in the same poverty that Blacks do, like I said I have first hand experience of it. You mentioned the schools having meals subsidised, which is true, but its across the board for Whites as well, its not just Blacks. Whether you like it or not these issues are party political as they are the people who have ran the City for 60 years, where the population has declined and job opportunities have declined. I haven't dismissed the poverty bit. What I have dismissed is the oppression, systemic racism, Police brutality etc that is the narrative spouted, when in reality it's nonsense in modern day America. If you added up the whole Black population of the US, if it was its own country it would have the 15th best economy in the World. Once again the false narratives don't do anybody any favours and its doing a lot more harm than good. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 6:58:58 GMT
You are not addressing the point I raised which, as I said, transcends race. But the question of race arises when a disproportionate % of one race is represented. You have already conceded that this is the case, but you still insist on defining the causal factors as party political, which they are not. I am. I have addressed it several times. I've mentioned the false narratives and victimhood already. Baltimores poverty is not dispropionate towards Black people. The % of the population is majority Black, yes, but its a poor City full stop. The majority of the White population also live in the same poverty that Blacks do, like I said I have first hand experience of it. You mentioned the schools having meals subsidised, which is true, but its across the board for Whites as well, its not just Blacks. Whether you like it or not these issues are party political as they are the people who have ran the City for 60 years, where the population has declined and job opportunities have declined. I haven't dismissed the poverty bit. What I have dismissed is the oppression, systemic racism, Police brutality etc that is the narrative spouted, when in reality it's nonsense in modern day America. If you added up the whole Black population of the US, if it was its own country it would have the 15th best economy in the World. Once again the false narratives don't do anybody any favours and its doing a lot more harm than good. So you can take GDP and ascribe it too the poorest communities, then they are magically not poor? |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 12, 2020 12:42:44 GMT
I am. I have addressed it several times. I've mentioned the false narratives and victimhood already. Baltimores poverty is not dispropionate towards Black people. The % of the population is majority Black, yes, but its a poor City full stop. The majority of the White population also live in the same poverty that Blacks do, like I said I have first hand experience of it. You mentioned the schools having meals subsidised, which is true, but its across the board for Whites as well, its not just Blacks. Whether you like it or not these issues are party political as they are the people who have ran the City for 60 years, where the population has declined and job opportunities have declined. I haven't dismissed the poverty bit. What I have dismissed is the oppression, systemic racism, Police brutality etc that is the narrative spouted, when in reality it's nonsense in modern day America. If you added up the whole Black population of the US, if it was its own country it would have the 15th best economy in the World. Once again the false narratives don't do anybody any favours and its doing a lot more harm than good. So you can take GDP and ascribe it too the poorest communities, then they are magically not poor? No of course not. There are poor Black people in America, just like there are poor Whites, poor Hispanics, poor Asians etc. There are poor people in every society. The majority of the 13% Black population in America however fall into the American "Middle Class", around about 65% of Black Americans earn between $40,000-$100,000 pa This notion and narrative you have that Black people are oppressed in modern day America is absolute nonsense. We need to start dealing with facts instead of all these false narratives. Larry Elder lays out the facts in this video, which was filmed about 4 years ago, but still holds such resonance today |
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Post by baggins on Sept 12, 2020 12:51:46 GMT
So you can take GDP and ascribe it too the poorest communities, then they are magically not poor? No of course not. There are poor Black people in America, just like there are poor Whites, poor Hispanics, poor Asians etc. There are poor people in every society. The majority of the 13% Black population in America however fall into the American "Middle Class", around about 65% of Black Americans earn between $40,000-$100,000 pa This notion and narrative you have that Black people are oppressed in modern day America is absolute nonsense. We need to start dealing with facts instead of all these false narratives. Larry Elder lays out the facts in this video, which was filmed about 4 years ago, but still holds such resonance today Isn't there some huge percentage of the US prison population being black? |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 12, 2020 13:18:19 GMT
No of course not. There are poor Black people in America, just like there are poor Whites, poor Hispanics, poor Asians etc. There are poor people in every society. The majority of the 13% Black population in America however fall into the American "Middle Class", around about 65% of Black Americans earn between $40,000-$100,000 pa This notion and narrative you have that Black people are oppressed in modern day America is absolute nonsense. We need to start dealing with facts instead of all these false narratives. Larry Elder lays out the facts in this video, which was filmed about 4 years ago, but still holds such resonance today Isn't there some huge percentage of the US prison population being black? It's true, but that's not down to them being oppressed. It's true that the average sentence given to Blacks is more than Whites, but it's also true that the average Black criminal has a longer criminal record than the average White criminal. When it comes to the sentencing, they take into account your criminal record, the severity of the crime, etc, etc Again we need to look at the facts, Black people in America commit a lot more violent crime, you just need to look at the homicide statistics. Larry Elder also discusses that here too |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 13:34:43 GMT
So you can take GDP and ascribe it too the poorest communities, then they are magically not poor? No of course not. There are poor Black people in America, just like there are poor Whites, poor Hispanics, poor Asians etc. There are poor people in every society. The majority of the 13% Black population in America however fall into the American "Middle Class", around about 65% of Black Americans earn between $40,000-$100,000 pa This notion and narrative you have that Black people are oppressed in modern day America is absolute nonsense. We need to start dealing with facts instead of all these false narratives. Larry Elder lays out the facts in this video, which was filmed about 4 years ago, but still holds such resonance today Come on Gastafari Instead of posting up one eyed views of one guy (because he is black), link your source. You said " The majority of the 13% Black population in America however fall into the American "Middle Class", around about 65% of Black Americans earn between $40,000-$100,000 pa" No idea where you got that number from. But, from the USA Census Bureau 2018/19 The median incomes in the States was $63,179 By race it was Asian. $87,194 White. $70,642 Hispanic. $51,450 Black. $41,361 That's median. So some in those groups are earning a lot more and an awful lot less. Given these factual statistics from the Americans themselves your statement of $40,000 to $100,000 is bollox. |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 12, 2020 14:21:14 GMT
No of course not. There are poor Black people in America, just like there are poor Whites, poor Hispanics, poor Asians etc. There are poor people in every society. The majority of the 13% Black population in America however fall into the American "Middle Class", around about 65% of Black Americans earn between $40,000-$100,000 pa This notion and narrative you have that Black people are oppressed in modern day America is absolute nonsense. We need to start dealing with facts instead of all these false narratives. Larry Elder lays out the facts in this video, which was filmed about 4 years ago, but still holds such resonance today Come on Gastafari Instead of posting up one eyed views of one guy (because he is black), link your source. You said " The majority of the 13% Black population in America however fall into the American "Middle Class", around about 65% of Black Americans earn between $40,000-$100,000 pa" No idea where you got that number from. But, from the USA Census Bureau 2018/19 The median incomes in the States was $63,179 By race it was Asian. $87,194 White. $70,642 Hispanic. $51,450 Black. $41,361 That's median. So some in those groups are earning a lot more and an awful lot less. Given these factual statistics from the Americans themselves your statement of $40,000 to $100,000 is bollox. C'mon Oldie If you don't want to listen to people like Larry Elder or Thomas Sowell then that's up to you, bury your head in the sand all you want. You can't argue with facts, that's why Larry Elder and Thomas Sowell very rarely lose an argument, whether they're Black is irrelevant. This is the problem, the false narratives that people like you believe. 30% of Black Americans earn between $30-$50,000, 15% between $50-$75,000, 8% between $75-$90,000, and 10% to $100,000 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 14:35:45 GMT
So you can take GDP and ascribe it too the poorest communities, then they are magically not poor? No of course not. There are poor Black people in America, just like there are poor Whites, poor Hispanics, poor Asians etc. There are poor people in every society. The majority of the 13% Black population in America however fall into the American "Middle Class", around about 65% of Black Americans earn between $40,000-$100,000 pa This notion and narrative you have that Black people are oppressed in modern day America is absolute nonsense. We need to start dealing with facts instead of all these false narratives. Larry Elder lays out the facts in this video, which was filmed about 4 years ago, but still holds such resonance today Sorry but linking to Dave Rubin only lowers credibility. You talk about narratives, and yes there are plenty of them, but to insist that racism doesn't exist I find baffling. There is a class issue for sure, anyone poor is treated as second class in the system. But BLM is issue we are talking about here. |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 12, 2020 14:57:28 GMT
No of course not. There are poor Black people in America, just like there are poor Whites, poor Hispanics, poor Asians etc. There are poor people in every society. The majority of the 13% Black population in America however fall into the American "Middle Class", around about 65% of Black Americans earn between $40,000-$100,000 pa This notion and narrative you have that Black people are oppressed in modern day America is absolute nonsense. We need to start dealing with facts instead of all these false narratives. Larry Elder lays out the facts in this video, which was filmed about 4 years ago, but still holds such resonance today Sorry but linking to Dave Rubin only lowers credibility. You talk about narratives, and yes there are plenty of them, but to insist that racism doesn't exist I find baffling. There is a class issue for sure, anyone poor is treated as second class in the system. But BLM is issue we are talking about here. Dave Rubin is the interviewer yes, but Larry Elder doesn't lack any credibility whasoever. Can you argue against anything he is saying? Where have I said that racism doesn't exist? BLM is the issue, it's a sham of an organisation. Who have created a great slogan, so deserve kudos for that, at least. If a bunch of Neo-Nazi's set up an organisation called 'Peace, Love & Harmony' or "Don't kick puppy's' would you still knowingly support it? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 15:28:00 GMT
Sorry but linking to Dave Rubin only lowers credibility. You talk about narratives, and yes there are plenty of them, but to insist that racism doesn't exist I find baffling. There is a class issue for sure, anyone poor is treated as second class in the system. But BLM is issue we are talking about here. Dave Rubin is the interviewer yes, but Larry Elder doesn't lack any credibility whasoever. Can you argue against anything he is saying? Where have I said that racism doesn't exist? BLM is the issue, it's a sham of an organisation. Who have created a great slogan, so deserve kudos for that, at least. If a bunch of Neo-Nazi's set up an organisation called 'Peace, Love & Harmony' or "Don't kick puppy's' would you still knowingly support it? I don't personally agree with conservative politics, I don't like the selfish nature of the ideology so Larry Elder & many other conservative talk show hosts just sound the same to me, spinning their own capitalist agenda. There are a few conservatives I'd respect like TS Eliot, but more often than not they seem to be reactionaries without empathy. I support anti racism in any form, whether BLM will succeed as an organisation who knows. I'd like to think of it as an inspiring movement that is now known across the whole world, rather than try to compare it with other neoliberal organisations. |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 12, 2020 17:05:45 GMT
Dave Rubin is the interviewer yes, but Larry Elder doesn't lack any credibility whasoever. Can you argue against anything he is saying? Where have I said that racism doesn't exist? BLM is the issue, it's a sham of an organisation. Who have created a great slogan, so deserve kudos for that, at least. If a bunch of Neo-Nazi's set up an organisation called 'Peace, Love & Harmony' or "Don't kick puppy's' would you still knowingly support it? I don't personally agree with conservative politics, I don't like the selfish nature of the ideology so Larry Elder & many other conservative talk show hosts just sound the same to me, spinning their own capitalist agenda. There are a few conservatives I'd respect like TS Eliot, but more often than not they seem to be reactionaries without empathy. I support anti racism in any form, whether BLM will succeed as an organisation who knows. I'd like to think of it as an inspiring movement that is now known across the whole world, rather than try to compare it with other neoliberal organisations. I have no political leaning. I just tend to look at evidence, and look in depth at the data. The data that Larry Elder, Thomas Sowell, Glenn Loury, John McWhorter, Ben Carson etc provide are all factual, they are hugely intelligent, Black academics who were all born and grew up around Jim Crow era America, where they couldnt eat, drink or even go for a p*ss next to Whites Everybody has an agenda but they all completely dispel the myths and narratives that the Left and Mainstream Media constantly spout about Blacks being oppressed in modern day America, they dispel the myth about systemic racism too.Blacks are not disproportionately targeted, attacked and killed by the Police. Incidents like the killing of George Floyd are extremely rare, as rare as being struck by lightning Thats not to say that racism doesn't exist, of course it does, it exists in every society and culture across the globe. I support anti racism too, from my experience being anti racist is as common as being anti paedophilia. BLM as a movement I have absolutely no problem with, of course Black Lives Matter, but its the false narratives, fake news and propaganda that BLM the organisation with the help of the Mainstream Media peddle to the masses, and people lap it up when in reality its absolute nonsense. BLM is an organisation started by a bunch of Marxist lesbians who despise men, all they want to do is get rid of the Nuclear family, defund the Police and stop capitalism. Have you read their manisfesto? 99.9% of it has nothing to do with Black lives, and it's no real surprise they come out the woodwork every 4 years when its election year. Yes BLM is known all across the World, because it's a brilliant slogan, I have already said the marketing team deserve huge kudos, but when you delve deeper, do your research and look into what the organisation really stands for and what their aims are, you find out it's nothing but a sham |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 17:11:28 GMT
Come on Gastafari Instead of posting up one eyed views of one guy (because he is black), link your source. You said " The majority of the 13% Black population in America however fall into the American "Middle Class", around about 65% of Black Americans earn between $40,000-$100,000 pa" No idea where you got that number from. But, from the USA Census Bureau 2018/19 The median incomes in the States was $63,179 By race it was Asian. $87,194 White. $70,642 Hispanic. $51,450 Black. $41,361 That's median. So some in those groups are earning a lot more and an awful lot less. Given these factual statistics from the Americans themselves your statement of $40,000 to $100,000 is bollox. C'mon Oldie If you don't want to listen to people like Larry Elder or Thomas Sowell then that's up to you, bury your head in the sand all you want. You can't argue with facts, that's why Larry Elder and Thomas Sowell very rarely lose an argument, whether they're Black is irrelevant. This is the problem, the false narratives that people like you believe. 30% of Black Americans earn between $30-$50,000, 15% between $50-$75,000, 8% between $75-$90,000, and 10% to $100,000 Perhaps there needs to be an organisation called (All) Black Voices Matter. It seems only the voices which concur with the white middle class thousands of miles away count. |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 12, 2020 17:21:59 GMT
C'mon Oldie If you don't want to listen to people like Larry Elder or Thomas Sowell then that's up to you, bury your head in the sand all you want. You can't argue with facts, that's why Larry Elder and Thomas Sowell very rarely lose an argument, whether they're Black is irrelevant. This is the problem, the false narratives that people like you believe. 30% of Black Americans earn between $30-$50,000, 15% between $50-$75,000, 8% between $75-$90,000, and 10% to $100,000 Perhaps there needs to be an organisation called (All) Black Voices Matter. It seems only the voices which concur with the white middle class thousands of miles away count. Indeed. You only have too look at the vitriol that the names i've mentioned get constantly, Coon, House N*gger, Boot Licker, Uncle Tom, Coconut, Oreo etc, just because they lay facts on the table that can't be argued and it obliterates the narrative. They're clearly the wrong type of Black people |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 17:31:23 GMT
Come on Gastafari Instead of posting up one eyed views of one guy (because he is black), link your source. You said " The majority of the 13% Black population in America however fall into the American "Middle Class", around about 65% of Black Americans earn between $40,000-$100,000 pa" No idea where you got that number from. But, from the USA Census Bureau 2018/19 The median incomes in the States was $63,179 By race it was Asian. $87,194 White. $70,642 Hispanic. $51,450 Black. $41,361 That's median. So some in those groups are earning a lot more and an awful lot less. Given these factual statistics from the Americans themselves your statement of $40,000 to $100,000 is bollox. C'mon Oldie If you don't want to listen to people like Larry Elder or Thomas Sowell then that's up to you, bury your head in the sand all you want. You can't argue with facts, that's why Larry Elder and Thomas Sowell very rarely lose an argument, whether they're Black is irrelevant. This is the problem, the false narratives that people like you believe. 30% of Black Americans earn between $30-$50,000, 15% between $50-$75,000, 8% between $75-$90,000, and 10% to $100,000 What's the source for your numbers? I quoted the American census. Those are the declared facts. Yours? |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 12, 2020 18:24:02 GMT
C'mon Oldie If you don't want to listen to people like Larry Elder or Thomas Sowell then that's up to you, bury your head in the sand all you want. You can't argue with facts, that's why Larry Elder and Thomas Sowell very rarely lose an argument, whether they're Black is irrelevant. This is the problem, the false narratives that people like you believe. 30% of Black Americans earn between $30-$50,000, 15% between $50-$75,000, 8% between $75-$90,000, and 10% to $100,000 What's the source for your numbers? I quoted the American census. Those are the declared facts. Yours? My numbers are also readily available from the U.S. Census Bureau, Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2020 20:12:46 GMT
Haven’t seen BLM make any statement condemning the cold blooded shooting of two LA Police Officers, one a mother of a six year old child. Nice of protesters to stand outside of the hospital yelling ‘Hope they die” too. Classy.
I guess this type of direct action is justified though?
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