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Post by wertongas on Aug 15, 2020 15:16:55 GMT
From the reports and the fact that JCH leg is strapped up, it is clear that he is carrying an injury, to over exert himself in a friendly game and make the injury worse would be stupid. Whole idea of a friendly is to get players fit and avoid injuries at all costs. JCH is an important player to us we need to keep him as we have no other experienced striker, what we really need is another experienced striker as back up / play alongside him.
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Post by axegas on Aug 15, 2020 15:21:10 GMT
I was a bit disappointed with the performance if I’m being honest, especially with the first team that was fielded.
Garner is obviously trying to get us to play a more fluid, passing based style of football but Exeter looked better in possession and more confident as a team. We were second best in the first half if truth be told.
I think Hargreaves is better suited to a deeper position than the number 10 role, I would of liked to have seen him and Westbrooke switch positions because Westbrooke looks like dangerous with the ball at feet.
JCH looked unfit and frustrated that he didn’t get any service from the midfielders. He still looks dangerous when he does get the ball in the final third but I hope he uses the rest of pre season to work on his fitness and match sharpness.
There were some positives to take away. JML looked really lively and posed a threat every time he got on the ball, looking forward to seeing what he can do this season. Max Ehmer showed glimpses of why Gillingham fans rate him so highly and put in a commanding performance. Some of the youngsters in the second half, the likes of Warwick and Walker looked promising.
I even thought Mark Little had a good game, he’s been a bit written off but I think if he keeps that level of performance up he’ll feature for us next season.
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 15, 2020 15:24:29 GMT
If we have any hope of being in the top 6 we must have a 20 goal striker Not many about If he left In my opinion we would really struggle next season. Hopefully Garner can motivate him to sharpen up and fire in goals to propel himself if he has any ambition. Still nearly a month to get himself right physically and mentally. You sometimes get the impression with him he’s fighting his own demons. The club must do all it can to make him our striker at the start of the campaign, let’s hope he wants to stay. Good job there is no crowd if some of the comments on here about getting rid are indicative of the mood on the terraces! Agree every club would like a 20 goal striker. You don't necessarily need one to make the top 6 though. Wycombe's top goal scorer in the league, scored 10 last season. It's always easier if you have someone that scores a lot though.
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Post by lpgas1 on Aug 15, 2020 15:26:11 GMT
I was a bit disappointed with the performance if I’m being honest, especially with the first team that was fielded. Garner is obviously trying to get us to play a more fluid, passing based style of football but Exeter looked better in possession and more confident as a team. We were second best in the first half if truth be told. I think Hargreaves is better suited to a deeper position than the number 10 role, I would of liked to have seen him and Westbrooke switch positions because Westbrooke looks like dangerous with the ball at feet. JCH looked unfit and frustrated that he didn’t get any service from the midfielders. He still looks dangerous when he does get the ball in the final third but I hope he uses the rest of pre season to work on his fitness and match sharpness. There where some positives to take away. JML looked really lively and posed a threat every time he got on the ball, looking forward to seeing what he can do this season. Max Ehmer showed glimpses of why Gillingham fans rate him so highly and put in a commanding performance. Some of the youngsters in the second half, the likes of Warwick and Walker looked promising. I even thought Mark Little had a really good game, he’s been a bit written off but I think if he keeps that level of performance up he’ll feature for us next season. I agree with most of that. Thought JCH was carrying a strain given the bandage on his leg. He needed someone other than Hargreaves along side him, although Hargreaves played well, he would have been better behind JCH. Very early days though
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Post by lmgas on Aug 15, 2020 15:26:53 GMT
I was a bit disappointed with the performance if I’m being honest, especially with the first team that was fielded. Garner is obviously trying to get us to play a more fluid, passing based style of football but Exeter looked better in possession and more confident as a team. We were second best in the first half if truth be told. I think Hargreaves is better suited to a deeper position than the number 10 role, I would of liked to have seen him and Westbrooke switch positions because Westbrooke looks like dangerous with the ball at feet. JCH looked unfit and frustrated that he didn’t get any service from the midfielders. He still looks dangerous when he does get the ball in the final third but I hope he uses the rest of pre season to work on his fitness and match sharpness. There were some positives to take away. JML looked really lively and posed a threat every time he got on the ball, looking forward to seeing what he can do this season. Max Ehmer showed glimpses of why Gillingham fans rate him so highly and put in a commanding performance. Some of the youngsters in the second half, the likes of Warwick and Walker looked promising. I even thought Mark Little had a really good game, he’s been a bit written off but I think if he keeps that level of performance up he’ll feature for us next season. Agree with most of this, but not Little, he was very poor again and played a stupid ball back to the keeper which Exeter were unfortunate not to score from. Harries was also very poor.
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Post by lmgas on Aug 15, 2020 15:27:56 GMT
A bit disappointing and disorganised. Looked like a member of backroom staff was going to referee it. Wonder if it'll be part of the match report on the official site? We wanted to play for longer and agreed with Exeter, but the refs said no at the last minute. So I expect we decided to ref it ourselves 😂. It was the officials that didn't want to play for longer. Sure, I appreciate that, but very odd that it wasnt properly organised with the officials beforehand.
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Post by lpgas1 on Aug 15, 2020 15:28:31 GMT
Yeah been at Rovers for 2 seasons both seeing him score one in two games averages. Let's not even consider the covid situation were players left to their own devices with no gyms or pools open and at times even parks closed. Maybe some people need others around them to motivate them and dont do well left to themselves. Hey ,let's just turn on him ...during the pre season and friendlies season....the time when players will be working on getting their game and lives back to "normal" Oh come on! He's a professional footballer FFS. Many people are capable of working out at home. Especially if you're a professional sportsman. Yes he's a talented player and he's done a good job for us but f**k me some of the excuses are laughable. It's inexcusable, end of. You dont know any details about waht ANY of the players have gone though during the summer. For all you know JCH could have had Covid. YOU know nothing, just like the rest of us
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Post by axegas on Aug 15, 2020 15:28:42 GMT
I was a bit disappointed with the performance if I’m being honest, especially with the first team that was fielded. Garner is obviously trying to get us to play a more fluid, passing based style of football but Exeter looked better in possession and more confident as a team. We were second best in the first half if truth be told. I think Hargreaves is better suited to a deeper position than the number 10 role, I would of liked to have seen him and Westbrooke switch positions because Westbrooke looks like dangerous with the ball at feet. JCH looked unfit and frustrated that he didn’t get any service from the midfielders. He still looks dangerous when he does get the ball in the final third but I hope he uses the rest of pre season to work on his fitness and match sharpness. There were some positives to take away. JML looked really lively and posed a threat every time he got on the ball, looking forward to seeing what he can do this season. Max Ehmer showed glimpses of why Gillingham fans rate him so highly and put in a commanding performance. Some of the youngsters in the second half, the likes of Warwick and Walker looked promising. I even thought Mark Little had a really good game, he’s been a bit written off but I think if he keeps that level of performance up he’ll feature for us next season. Agree with most of this, but not Little, he was very poor again and played a stupid ball back to the keeper which Exeter were unfortunate not to score from. Harries was also very poor. I agree that Harries was poor, kept giving away the ball and being caught in the wrong position. I had forgotten about that stray ball from Little but I thought on the whole he had a good game.
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Post by RD on Aug 15, 2020 15:31:25 GMT
Oh come on! He's a professional footballer FFS. Many people are capable of working out at home. Especially if you're a professional sportsman. Yes he's a talented player and he's done a good job for us but f**k me some of the excuses are laughable. It's inexcusable, end of. You dont know any details about waht ANY of the players have gone though during the summer. For all you know JCH could have had Covid. YOU know nothing, just like the rest of us Oh come off it. Christ.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 15:32:34 GMT
What happened to BG playing 4-4-2? It seems he's reverted to GC's wing backs meaning if they have an off day we're back to creating very little plus we're totally relying upon JCH to lead the attack. What ever formation we play, if they have an off day, they create little. We are playing more of a 343 now, which can be now studying m attacking than 442. Did Garner every say we were going to play 442??? With the player's we have currently, it always looked like being a 343 formation. The lack of creativity under GC was more to do with the players than the formation. We have much better creative players in the middle of the park than when we had a three of Upson, Ogogo and Clarke.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 15, 2020 15:42:01 GMT
It's the 2nd game of pre season, after not kicking a ball since March.
Exeter have played competitive Play Off games, so you'd expect them to be fitter, quicker and sharper.
It's another game on the board, that's it.
I wouldn't look too much into it, certainly about certain players fitness at the moment.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Aug 15, 2020 15:47:20 GMT
Problems trying to set up stream so gave up, ,sounds like a useful work out, three observations re JCH, firstly it sounds as if he was stamping his feet in frustration again and some fans are questioning his attitude, secondly we need to have other options available as we can't rely on him scoring goals of the season every other game, and thirdly there would have to be a very good reason for me to accept a professional sportsman not keeping himself at an acceptable fitness level., IMHO we have a very talented squad available now and should be trying other options upfront, up the Rovers!
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Post by axegas on Aug 15, 2020 15:48:40 GMT
It's the 2nd game of pre season, after not kicking a ball since March. Exeter have played competitive Play Off games, so you'd expect them to be fitter, quicker and sharper. It's another game on the board, that's it. I wouldn't look too much into it, certainly about certain players fitness at the moment. Yeah I’d very much agree with that because I think what’s easy to forget is that Exeter have recently been involved in the playoffs making them fitter and sharper and also a lot of their players have been playing together longer. For us, a lot of the new signings and academy lads that might not have played with each other before featured and on top of that they are still learning the style of play the Garner wants to introduce. I was slightly disappointed by our showing today at times but not going to read too much into it as there’s a long way to go before the first game of the season still.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 15, 2020 15:49:11 GMT
I was a bit disappointed with the performance if I’m being honest, especially with the first team that was fielded. Garner is obviously trying to get us to play a more fluid, passing based style of football but Exeter looked better in possession and more confident as a team. We were second best in the first half if truth be told. I think Hargreaves is better suited to a deeper position than the number 10 role, I would of liked to have seen him and Westbrooke switch positions because Westbrooke looks like dangerous with the ball at feet. JCH looked unfit and frustrated that he didn’t get any service from the midfielders. He still looks dangerous when he does get the ball in the final third but I hope he uses the rest of pre season to work on his fitness and match sharpness. There were some positives to take away. JML looked really lively and posed a threat every time he got on the ball, looking forward to seeing what he can do this season. Max Ehmer showed glimpses of why Gillingham fans rate him so highly and put in a commanding performance. Some of the youngsters in the second half, the likes of Warwick and Walker looked promising. I even thought Mark Little had a good game, he’s been a bit written off but I think if he keeps that level of performance up he’ll feature for us next season. Don’t forget Exeter we’re playing in the L2 play offs not too long ago and haven’t made too many additions to their XI from then, so they’re bound to be a bit ahead of us in their preparation and/or fitness. Edit: Ignore, too late.
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Post by james246 on Aug 15, 2020 15:51:59 GMT
I didn't read much into today's game other than the formation doesn't suit our strikers JCH was off his game today, in the second half Daly played wide and I believe that doesn't suit him. I feel we need to play two strikers alongside each other up top. So for me 5-3-2 or 4-4-2
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 15:55:30 GMT
Did we win?
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Post by alanrg on Aug 15, 2020 16:01:47 GMT
Remember fellow gasheads we lost 2 years ago 2 Exeter City 4-0 what an improvement the 2-1 win is
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Post by pucklegas on Aug 15, 2020 16:19:29 GMT
All about match fitness at this stage, the starting line up was not played today, so let's not get too down it will be a long season if we are moaning now 😂
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 15, 2020 16:24:09 GMT
Problems trying to set up stream so gave up, ,sounds like a useful work out, three observations re JCH, firstly it sounds as if he was stamping his feet in frustration again and some fans are questioning his attitude, secondly we need to have other options available as we can't rely on him scoring goals of the season every other game, and thirdly there would have to be a very good reason for me to accept a professional sportsman not keeping himself at an acceptable fitness level., IMHO we have a very talented squad available now and should be trying other options upfront, up the Rovers! If JCH was 100% a professional he'd be playing Championship football and we'd probably be playing L2 football. BG's task this summer is to get JCH match fit and back to his best by the start of the season. Whether he can do what GC did could well make or break his Rovers managerial career, unless he can get another goal scorer in by September.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 15, 2020 16:26:19 GMT
I didn't read much into today's game other than the formation doesn't suit our strikers JCH was off his game today, in the second half Daly played wide and I believe that doesn't suit him. I feel we need to play two strikers alongside each other up top. So for me 5-3-2 or 4-4-2 BG seems determined to play 3-4-2-1, even with the 3 young strikers playing late on he still stuck to that formation.
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