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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 6, 2020 14:10:07 GMT
BG has had about 20 games now with a win rate of approx 10%. How long do we give the bloke? I have seen quite a few people say 10 games, but what if it is just bad or worse over those 10 games? I don't think he should just be given 10 games as a token gesture or to give him a fair chance. I believe he has had more than a fair chance already and is skating on extremely thin ice. There is no real promise of improvement during his time here. Yes, there are little spells here and there that are positive but they are very few and far between. To add insult to injury, he is also talking rubbish and making excuses. The bloke really is up against it and it is looking more and more tough for him to turn this round. He looks so far out of his depth, his record is appalling with us, he has zero charisma. His lack of experience managing professional footballers means he probably struggles to get respect of the players/fans. He's been backed by Wael so no excuses. Bet DC is licking his lips for Tues night.
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Post by paulpirate on Sept 6, 2020 14:15:47 GMT
BG has had about 20 games now with a win rate of approx 10%. How long do we give the bloke? I have seen quite a few people say 10 games, but what if it is just bad or worse over those 10 games? I don't think he should just be given 10 games as a token gesture or to give him a fair chance. I believe he has had more than a fair chance already and is skating on extremely thin ice. There is no real promise of improvement during his time here. Yes, there are little spells here and there that are positive but they are very few and far between. To add insult to injury, he is also talking rubbish and making excuses. The bloke really is up against it and it is looking more and more tough for him to turn this round. He looks so far out of his depth, his record is appalling with us, he is zero charisma. His lack of experience managing professional footballers means he probably struggles to get respect of the players/fans. He's been backed by Wael so no excuses. Bet DC is licking his lips for Tues night. liquid lunch?
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Post by axegas on Sept 6, 2020 14:16:28 GMT
We've not even kicked off our league campaign yet and already a thread has been started about how many games the manager has left. Ridiculous, especially as Rovers were away against Ipswich, which is by no means an easy place to visit.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 6, 2020 14:18:45 GMT
We've not even kicked off our league campaign yet and already a thread has been started about how many games the manager has left. Ridiculous, especially as Rovers were away against Ipswich, which is by no means an easy place to visit. Are we sure it was Ipswich? I thought it was Real Madrid the way some are talking about it on here. And it's not just about this season is it. It's about lack of progression and improvement. In fact we seem to be getting worse, along with BG's interviews!
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 6, 2020 14:19:25 GMT
I would say if we don’t finish October with 2 wins and 3 draws then he goes.
Personally I would have sacked him last year.
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Post by baggins on Sept 6, 2020 14:23:32 GMT
Again? Let's not get into this. Please.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2020 14:23:56 GMT
"Mummy .... I'm wet all the way through to my dress" !!
Why on Earth do you start threads like this - It can only be for attention.
What do you mean ..." How long do we give him" - Do you honestly believe 'WE' have any say ? What will you do ? Not go to games until he has left ... Bit of a flaw in that plan.
Wael will back him for sure ... has backed him ... very unlikely to sack him.
He has lost part of the fan base already and after a seriously tough September might lose a load more ... Has to win games in October if we are to compete, but talk of BG being asked to leave is madness.
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Post by axegas on Sept 6, 2020 14:24:11 GMT
We've not even kicked off our league campaign yet and already a thread has been started about how many games the manager has left. Ridiculous, especially as Rovers were away against Ipswich, which is by no means an easy place to visit. Are we sure it was Ipswich? I thought it was Real Madrid the way some are talking about it on here. And it's not just about this season is it. It's about lack of progression and improvement. In fact we seem to be getting worse, along with BG's interviews! Just hate how we haven't even started the season properly yet and some fans are counting down the games before we can sack the manager. That's something that I would expect from City's fanbase or from one of the top four clubs. Yes, Garner has a lot of proving to do but let's at least let him get on with it without putting imaginary deadlines on him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2020 14:32:47 GMT
We've not even kicked off our league campaign yet and already a thread has been started about how many games the manager has left. Ridiculous, especially as Rovers were away against Ipswich, which is by no means an easy place to visit. OP is right though, when it gets down to cold hard facts Garner has presided over more than 20 competitive games and his win ratio is absolutely scandalous and would not have been tolerated at more ambitious clubs. If he lost his job tomorrow he’d have very little cause for complaint and it’s hard to imagine the wider football world would condemn Rovers in the same way as, say, Leicester were condemned for binning off Ranieri. It’s blatantly obvious why Garner might be under pressure- it’s a results business, Garner isn’t getting results. He has to be on borrowed time right now. Personally I reckon he’ll be allowed to take us down, if it comes to it.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 6, 2020 14:33:31 GMT
We've not even kicked off our league campaign yet and already a thread has been started about how many games the manager has left. Ridiculous, especially as Rovers were away against Ipswich, which is by no means an easy place to visit. OP is right though, when it gets down to cold hard facts Garner has presided over more than 20 competitive games and his win ratio is absolutely scandalous and would not have been tolerated at more ambitious clubs. If he lost his job tomorrow he’d have very little cause for complaint and it’s hard to imagine the wider football world would condemn Rovers in the same way as, say, Leicester were condemned for binning off Ranieri. It’s blatantly obvious why Garner might be under pressure- it’s a results business, Garner isn’t getting results. He has to be on borrowed time right now. Personally I reckon he’ll be allowed to take us down, if it comes to it.I agree with you on this but that bit on bold. They will replace him when our season is already over.
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Post by paulpirate on Sept 6, 2020 14:33:32 GMT
Why not give him till Xmas with his team he’s put together and how he wants them to play,else it’s starting all over again and back to square one
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 6, 2020 14:33:45 GMT
Complaining like The city way?what for wanting to win a match. Some on here are like the last shop on the high street and believing one day it will all come back again to how it was
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Post by francegas on Sept 6, 2020 14:41:48 GMT
He's putting together his own squad. A squad that has not yet played 90 minutes of league football, just one match in a cup we are historically useless in, and already there's a thread to debate how long we give BG.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 6, 2020 14:44:30 GMT
He's putting together his own squad. A squad that has not yet played 90 minutes of league football, just one match in a cup we are historically useless in, and already there's a thread to debate how long we give BG. He's lucky to have his own squad. That is what is buying him time at the moment, that will soon wear thin though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2020 14:44:39 GMT
I think he's here for the long haul, we are in the early days of the plan to develop our own players and/or acquire discarded youngsters from elsewhere and improve them. I can't see Wael getting rid of one of the lynch pins of this plan at such an early stage.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Sept 6, 2020 14:44:51 GMT
Premature ~ hardly surprising
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2020 14:46:12 GMT
Premature ~ hardly surprising No comment!
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Post by axegas on Sept 6, 2020 14:48:28 GMT
We've not even kicked off our league campaign yet and already a thread has been started about how many games the manager has left. Ridiculous, especially as Rovers were away against Ipswich, which is by no means an easy place to visit. OP is right though, when it gets down to cold hard facts Garner has presided over more than 20 competitive games and his win ratio is absolutely scandalous and would not have been tolerated at more ambitious clubs. If he lost his job tomorrow he’d have very little cause for complaint and it’s hard to imagine the wider football world would condemn Rovers in the same way as, say, Leicester were condemned for binning off Ranieri. It’s blatantly obvious why Garner might be under pressure- it’s a results business, Garner isn’t getting results. He has to be on borrowed time right now. Personally I reckon he’ll be allowed to take us down, if it comes to it. He hasn't been given the opportunity to get results yet this season, why let him make a load of new signings in the summer only to sack him at the first chance? All I think we should do, is wait at least 10-15 games to see how this new look team performs before properly coming to a decision about how good we are going to be under Garner this year. I watched the game yesterday, I thought we weren't very good, but I'm not immediately losing it because I know I haven't seen enough of this Rovers side yet. Every team has their bad days and every team has the scope to learn and grow. I'm not going to simply forget how we performed under Garner last season but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt that things weren't easy with his absence, a tough run of games and Couglan's sudden exit demoralising the squad and judge him based on the things I see from his side this season, which at this moment is pretty impossible with the season having not even got underway yet.
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 6, 2020 14:53:38 GMT
GGMI patience lad. This is a ridiculous time to be having a thread like this and the only reason I can see for running it is to say II told you so if it doesnt go well. For god sake get a grip we havent even had one League game and I honestly think that people on here are worse than those over the river. I never thought I would say that but at the present time I honestly feel it is true.
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Post by bluegas on Sept 6, 2020 15:00:17 GMT
I think he's here for the long haul, we are in the early days of the plan to develop our own players and/or acquire discarded youngsters from elsewhere and improve them. I can't see Wael getting rid of one of the lynch pins of this plan at such an early stage. The way I see it. Wael effectively owns the club. He sees our salvation in coaching, developing players, building a team and selling some. He sees BG as the man to do that, rightly or wrongly.
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