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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 11, 2020 9:51:33 GMT
Holloway had not seen him. Holloway phoned the then Yeovil manager and asked who the best non league striker was, and he said Hayles with out a doubt. Holloway didn't scout him or even watch him. Told me this himself Think he may have been pulling your leg there. I don't think Ollie ever let the truth get in the way of a good story.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 9:54:23 GMT
what has he said wrong? Don’t get it Over sensitive,enough crap going on without you making it a issue That I don’t see the point of why he had to mention the colour of his skin, he wouldn’t say the other white striker we signed. So yeh it does need to be said. I am hoping for another left sided central defender to go along side the three white ones we have.
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Post by bally144 on Sept 11, 2020 10:11:16 GMT
That I don’t see the point of why he had to mention the colour of his skin, he wouldn’t say the other white striker we signed. So yeh it does need to be said. I am hoping for another left sided central defender to go along side the three white ones we have. I am white and therefore have no real appreciation of the experiences encountered by someone who is black within our society. However, if I am told by that community that referencing someone by the colour of their skin reinforces negative experiences then I respect that and avoid it.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 11, 2020 10:14:31 GMT
That I don’t see the point of why he had to mention the colour of his skin, he wouldn’t say the other white striker we signed. So yeh it does need to be said. I am hoping for another left sided central defender to go along side the three white ones we have. Prejudice. Against right sided central defenders.
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Post by Jomo on Sept 11, 2020 10:15:24 GMT
Can we all just put this left-wing / right-wing stuff to one side? We're all Bristol Rovers fans and it's normal to expect some to be on one side and some on the other, politically and ideologically speaking. We'll never all agree on that sort of thing and it's not what this forum is for. It's of no use on this thread in which we should be talking about the player himself.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 10:30:30 GMT
I am hoping for another left sided central defender to go along side the three white ones we have. Prejudice. Against right sided central defenders. 😂😂😂😂
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 11, 2020 11:19:03 GMT
Prior to joining Rovers in the EFL; JCH - 190 Games - 29 Goals @ 0.1526 GPG Hanlan - 101 Games - 15 Goals @ 0.1485 GPG JCH was 9 months older when he signed. JCH played played over 60 games at Championship level as an 19/20 year old and did ok for a struggling Rotherham, so his stats are skewed in that respect. JCH had scored 25 goals in 150 League one games before signing here, averaging exactly a goal every 6 games Brandon Hanlon has scored 16 goals in 99 League one games before signing, averaging roughly a goal every 6.2 games So yeah, very similar stats at this level
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 11, 2020 11:30:21 GMT
Prior to joining Rovers in the EFL; JCH - 190 Games - 29 Goals @ 0.1526 GPG Hanlan - 101 Games - 15 Goals @ 0.1485 GPG JCH was 9 months older when he signed. JCH played played over 60 games at Championship level as an 19/20 year old and did ok for a struggling Rotherham, so his stats are skewed in that respect. JCH had scored 25 goals in 150 League one games before signing here, averaging exactly a goal every 6 games Brandon Hanlon has scored 16 goals in 99 League one games before signing, averaging roughly a goal every 6.2 games So yeah, very similar stats at this level Hanlan in the league last season; 35 Games - 4 Goals @ 0.1143 GPG Only two of those goals were "point winning goals", 2 were later goals in 5-0 and 3-0 wins. He scored a further 3 in 5 cup games. Maybe we should tell him it's a cup game every week?
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Post by baggins on Sept 11, 2020 11:35:16 GMT
JCH played played over 60 games at Championship level as an 19/20 year old and did ok for a struggling Rotherham, so his stats are skewed in that respect. JCH had scored 25 goals in 150 League one games before signing here, averaging exactly a goal every 6 games Brandon Hanlon has scored 16 goals in 99 League one games before signing, averaging roughly a goal every 6.2 games So yeah, very similar stats at this level Hanlan in the league last season; 35 Games - 4 Goals @ 0.1143 GPG Only two of those goals were "point winning goals", 2 were later goals in 5-0 and 3-0 wins. He scored a further 3 in 5 cup games. Maybe we should tell him it's a cup game every week? We won't be in any Cups within a few weeks. Someone's really going to have to sell him on that theory.
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Post by neogas on Sept 11, 2020 11:36:13 GMT
Holloway had not seen him. Holloway phoned the then Yeovil manager and asked who the best non league striker was, and he said Hayles with out a doubt. Holloway didn't scout him or even watch him. Told me this himself I call bullshit. Holloway was scouting Steve Foster when Hayles caught his eye after giving Fozzie a torrid time. My memory tells me it was the other way round. They were scouting Hayles and Fozzie kept him quiet!! One of us is right!
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Post by Strange Gas on Sept 11, 2020 12:19:29 GMT
What have I missed? Personally feel encouraged by this signing. Up to the manager to now get the best out of the raw materials he has personally assembled.
We know DC struggled to make a silk purse out of his many sows ears. GC surpassed all expectations at 1st attempt. What can Ben do I wonder? Let’s just hope he isn’t as stubborn as DC was with what was essentially and very obviously broken, ultimately eroding the good will he built up leading to his downfall.
Ben is overdrawn already in my view based on experience to date, probably only using his interest free buffer though, but can get back in to credit easily if he’s any good. I really want him to.
Bring on the league!
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Post by puregas on Sept 11, 2020 12:24:55 GMT
You’ve missed a good signing Strange.
Just don’t mention his colour, size, shape, tattoos, hair, clothes, or any other distinguishing features. There are some sensitive souls on here.
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Post by baggins on Sept 11, 2020 12:30:56 GMT
You’ve missed a good signing Strange. Just don’t mention his colour, size, shape, tattoos, hair, clothes, or any other distinguishing features. There are some sensitive souls on here. How dare you not mention his salary, diet, car, family, sometimes this forum is beyond reading. Pathetic.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 11, 2020 12:43:04 GMT
Okay, so 24 hours later, my full take on the Hanlan signing. I think generally speaking, the signing of Hanlan is a decent one - I think he could really be a rough diamond. From what I've read from Gills fans and comments from coaches/managers it seems he possesses a number of brilliant attributes and, if we can work on him becoming clinical in front of goal, it's likely he could well go on to far better things than Bristol Rovers. However - here's the kicker. Whilst there's every chance we may well develop Hanlan in to a top, top striker - or he might just click, as JCH did - there's every chance that, whilst he will get there eventually, it may well take him months - if not even a year say - to have his finishing coached to the level he becomes clinical/prolific. And that's obviously an "if" - afterall, for every JCH, there's a Tom Nichols. I'm certainly happy enough to role the dice and take a punt on him - but I'd be far more relaxed about doing so if we still had JCH or A. N. Other striker who was our number 1 and likely the be the person to get the 20+ goals a season we will ultimately require. My worry, is that Nicholson might chip in with close to double figures, JML might grab 7 or 8, but other than that most of the goals are going to need to come from our main out-and-out striker. I really like Ayunga and think he will get circa 10 next season, even if he did mainly come on as a sub (assuming Hanlan will be starting). However, that tally isn't going to take us to anywhere near enough goals. And that's what fills me with dread. The biggest criticism that's been levelled at Hanlan (currently) is his finishing ability. That doesn't bode well for someone we really do need to be getting 18+ goals minimum for us next season. And there-in lies the problem - unless he transforms in to a deadly marksmen overnight, we don't really have the luxury of waiting around; if he fails to score regularly, we will almost certainly be near the foot of the table - where else are the goals required likely to come from? Furthermore, that will add enormous pressure on his shoulders, which could go one of two ways - it may actually hinder his development. So nothing against Hanlan personally - I genuinely wish him all the best and certainly believe there could be one hell of a player in there. The question is whether we can score the goals throughout the team whilst he's being coached to a level from which he can then take over that burden. As a result, I really hope we've got someone else with goals in them lined up - but I don't think we do in all honesty. I think that's why my first choice would have been someone like Humphrys (although I accept that if he does want a move up north, that was a non-starter). I largely agree RD, good post. Two points from it that I perhaps have a different take on: if he were to come as a “second choice” striker then he may not get as many opportunities as he will now. I sure if we’d had a JCH-type already we wouldnt have signed him, Ayunga was signed as back up I think. Now he will get lots of opportunities as first choice striker (my presumption that he is). I hope he takes this chance that he has. Secondly, we often talk about getting players at the right time. Often other teams get them then sell them on and we seem to get them one transfer too late, perhaps when they’re in their mid to late 20s. To have got him in his early 20s, the right time imo, perhaps it’s a much better time. As ever no transfer comes with a guarantee but perhaps this one ticks a few more boxes than others sometimes do. Time will tell. Welcome to the gas Brandon. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 11, 2020 12:44:56 GMT
Brandon, have we just got him on hire? Let`s hope Brandon Flowers into a decent player for us. Yes, perhaps he’ll be our Mr. Brighteyes. 😉 UTG!
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 11, 2020 12:50:22 GMT
You’ve missed a good signing Strange. Just don’t mention his colour, size, shape, tattoos, hair, clothes, or any other distinguishing features. There are some sensitive souls on here. Maybe he should just be referred to as Number 9?
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Post by baggins on Sept 11, 2020 12:53:28 GMT
Whomever he is, wherever he's from, let's just hope he bangs them in for fun.
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Post by baggins on Sept 11, 2020 12:54:18 GMT
You’ve missed a good signing Strange. Just don’t mention his colour, size, shape, tattoos, hair, clothes, or any other distinguishing features. There are some sensitive souls on here. Maybe he should just be referred to as Number 9? Oh, picking on 8 and 10 now are we?
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Post by matealotblue on Sept 11, 2020 13:00:49 GMT
You’ve missed a good signing Strange. Just don’t mention his colour, size, shape, tattoos, hair, clothes, or any other distinguishing features. There are some sensitive souls on here. Maybe he should just be referred to as Number 9? Ah....The Prisoner. Although thinking about it wasn’t he No 6? Got to be a certain age to know about that....🤪
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 11, 2020 13:03:29 GMT
I am not a number I am a free man!
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