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Post by TAGas on Sept 28, 2020 9:07:21 GMT
Oh we will continue to play from that back as that's all he knows and will be too proud/stubborn to change it now By playing from the back, do you mean knock it side to side 3 or 4 times and then hoof it long, like I'm seeing most games? Yes exactly.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Sept 28, 2020 9:52:58 GMT
This obsession with possession football is nonsensical. Apparently, Leicester had something like 30% possession yesterday and thrashed City 5-2 at the Etihad.
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1. L1 defenders are not generally very skilful on the ball. If they were, they would be playing at a higher standard. The exceptions tend to be young players learning their craft and destined for better things. One example was Kilgour who flourished under the mentorship of Craig. 2. Unless there is a degree of creativity and preferably, pace in midfield a team won't score many goals. Don't expect L1 strikers to keep scoring wonder individual goals - although JCH did for a time. In fact any striker needs service. No service equals no goals.
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Post by pucklegas on Sept 28, 2020 13:11:06 GMT
Of managers available only Paul cook would please me, not cotterell or squeaky Lee.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 13:22:22 GMT
No idea what garnerball is, it appears to be new cliche that some on here have adopted. Garner has said he wants to play fast, possession-based, mobile football. Iβve no problem with that. It just appears that BG is unable to translate training onto a match, nor is he able to inspire players to play that way. Until he can do those things and get some wins the pressure will continue. If he canβt get wins then he should and will get sacked. To answer the OP about the new manager: Appoint Hargreaves and Mans or Maher as caretakers and this time do a proper recruitment exercise. Istr Garner was in place very quickly and I donβt know if it was planned even before GC had gone or very soon after. I just hope the process isnβt rushed. Get it right rather than do it quickly. UTG! Often good managers will also realise that possession based football does not work when the chips are down. When confidence levels are low, the best idea is to go back to basics, batten down the hatches and grind out some points, before gradually shifting back to the passing game once confidence levels rise again. If Garner stays, and continues to proceed with the playing out from the back, then I predict that we will continue to ship sloppy goals and get comfortably beaten.Β Itβs classic stuff to get some confidence on board. Sadly though what chance has Garner got of trying to grind out a 0-0? He needs a proper defence coach in place first. The last 2 Doncaster goals were shocking, defensively we are a shambles and as a result I donβt see where our next win is coming from. Not being able to defend is one thing if you can out score your defence but our opponents regularly score more actual goals than we can get shots on target. If Northampton are up for it on Saturday we will struggle to get a draw.
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Post by richard on Sept 28, 2020 13:44:56 GMT
This obsession with possession football is nonsensical. Apparently, Leicester had something like 30% possession yesterday and thrashed City 5-2 at the Etihad. Two points: 1. L1 defenders are not generally very skilful on the ball. If they were, they would be playing at a higher standard. The exceptions tend to be young players learning their craft and destined for better things. One example was Kilgour who flourished under the mentorship of Craig. 2. Unless there is a degree of creativity and preferably, pace in midfield a team won't score many goals. Don't expect L1 strikers to keep scoring wonder individual goals - although JCH did for a time. In fact any striker needs service. No service equals no goals. To be fair we got an excellent point away at Sunderland and that wasn't good enough for everyone because we didn't have enough possession...?!
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 28, 2020 14:09:36 GMT
This obsession with possession football is nonsensical. Apparently, Leicester had something like 30% possession yesterday and thrashed City 5-2 at the Etihad. Two points: 1. L1 defenders are not generally very skilful on the ball. If they were, they would be playing at a higher standard. The exceptions tend to be young players learning their craft and destined for better things. One example was Kilgour who flourished under the mentorship of Craig. 2. Unless there is a degree of creativity and preferably, pace in midfield a team won't score many goals. Don't expect L1 strikers to keep scoring wonder individual goals - although JCH did for a time. In fact any striker needs service. No service equals no goals. To be fair we got an excellent point away at Sunderland and that wasn't good enough for everyone because we didn't have enough possession...?! The point itself was excellent but I donβt think our performance was.
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Post by brads213 on Sept 28, 2020 14:21:03 GMT
Bring back GC
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Post by alanrg on Sept 28, 2020 14:25:55 GMT
Mansfield not happy with Coughlan so a big no 4 me
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Post by landrover on Sept 28, 2020 14:48:22 GMT
Mansfield not happy with Coughlan so a big no 4 me Reading your posts, I always picture you in class texting under the table just in case youβre caught by Miss/Sir.
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Post by denis on Sept 30, 2020 7:11:57 GMT
Personally i would like Marcus Stewart to being given the chance. Yes he hasn't got managerial experience but you got to start someone and rookie managers have been successful. He's one of our own and anything is an improvement on BG! Ben is a good coach but is clearly out of his depth as a manager. Nothing against Ben but it's just not working π
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Post by Jomo on Sept 30, 2020 7:24:48 GMT
Personally i would like Marcus Stewart to being given the chance. Yes he hasn't got managerial experience but you got to start someone and rookie managers have been successful. He's one of our own and anything is an improvement on BG! Ben is a good coach but is clearly out of his depth as a manager. Nothing against Ben but it's just not working π No thanks. Loved Marcus as a player, but if his post match interviews when he was stepping in for DC were anything to go by, then he is not management material in my opinion. Could barely string a sentence together, and didn't seem to really have it in him to analyse the game.
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Post by Marshy on Sept 30, 2020 7:28:53 GMT
Personally i would like Marcus Stewart to being given the chance. Yes he hasn't got managerial experience but you got to start someone and rookie managers have been successful. He's one of our own and anything is an improvement on BG! Ben is a good coach but is clearly out of his depth as a manager. Nothing against Ben but it's just not working π This has to be wind up! π
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Post by TAGas on Sept 30, 2020 7:43:19 GMT
Personally i would like Marcus Stewart to being given the chance. Yes he hasn't got managerial experience but you got to start someone and rookie managers have been successful. He's one of our own and anything is an improvement on BG! Ben is a good coach but is clearly out of his depth as a manager. Nothing against Ben but it's just not working π I wouldn't call him one of our own. Well, you seeing as he's a Ted π
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Post by denis on Sept 30, 2020 8:12:30 GMT
Personally i would like Marcus Stewart to being given the chance. Yes he hasn't got managerial experience but you got to start someone and rookie managers have been successful. He's one of our own and anything is an improvement on BG! Ben is a good coach but is clearly out of his depth as a manager. Nothing against Ben but it's just not working π I wouldn't call him one of our own. Well, you seeing as he's a Ted π He's not the only one to play for both Bristol clubs and his playing record for us is much better than with the Teds. At least he saw the light and left them! π
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Post by Marshy on Sept 30, 2020 8:31:59 GMT
I wouldn't call him one of our own. Well, you seeing as he's a Ted π He's not the only one to play for both Bristol clubs and his playing record for us is much better than with the Teds. At least he saw the light and left them! π And us.
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Post by LJG on Sept 30, 2020 15:25:43 GMT
Nigel Adkins.
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Post by lpgas1 on Sept 30, 2020 16:31:40 GMT
Personally i would like Marcus Stewart to being given the chance. Yes he hasn't got managerial experience but you got to start someone and rookie managers have been successful. He's one of our own and anything is an improvement on BG! Ben is a good coach but is clearly out of his depth as a manager. Nothing against Ben but it's just not working π This has to be wind up! π Is that Denis Stewart by any chance? A big NOOOOOO from me
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Sept 30, 2020 22:27:30 GMT
Who do we want? Who is available?Β I'd like you to be our next manager, and maybe then you'd shut up about getting rid of our current one. The guy had to work with players who weren't his own last season, not suited to the style of play which he was looking to adopt. This season he has just signed a completely new team who have competed with 3 of the best teams in the division for large parts of each fixture. We're a work in progress, and obviously need to get in a winning run as soon as possible, but if the players believe in him, then that's half the battle, and more than enough for me as a fan. I've never had a problem with you personally in the past, but this constant manager bashing is getting a bit stale now.
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Post by socrates on Sept 30, 2020 22:39:56 GMT
I hope BG can still sort things out but it is looking less likely with every game. I would like us to promote from within, it worked with DC unfortunately he had little time to turn things around to avoid relegation but did get us two promotions , GC took over from him and kept us up and then took us to fourth in the table.Stewart Campbell was another who improved the team but was replaced by Buckle, David Williams also did a good job for us, there are a few that struggled when promoted from within but no to many. I think Lee Mansell as manager and perhaps bring Tony Craig back as assistant/ defensive coach we certainly don't have anything to loose by doing this. Iβd love to see Craig come back as a defensive coach or manager .
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Post by socrates on Sept 30, 2020 22:41:38 GMT
This obsession with possession football is nonsensical. Apparently, Leicester had something like 30% possession yesterday and thrashed City 5-2 at the Etihad. Two points: 1. L1 defenders are not generally very skilful on the ball. If they were, they would be playing at a higher standard. The exceptions tend to be young players learning their craft and destined for better things. One example was Kilgour who flourished under the mentorship of Craig. 2. Unless there is a degree of creativity and preferably, pace in midfield a team won't score many goals. Don't expect L1 strikers to keep scoring wonder individual goals - although JCH did for a time. In fact any striker needs service. No service equals no goals. Leicester also had the lowest possession percentage the year they won the premier league. Itβs fine to play a possession based game if your one of the top sides in your division and youβve got the players to do it. But we arenβt and we havenβt. Simple as that.
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