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Post by dragonfly on Oct 24, 2020 17:31:37 GMT
Shameful that our Government is falling short in this way when they choose to put thousands of illegal economic migrants up in 4 star hotels around the country well fed with almost £40 per week spending money, paid for by us the Taxpayer. The vast majority of these illegals are men generally between the age of 18 to 26. Our own people should be fed first.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Oct 24, 2020 17:40:21 GMT
Again, please don't make this political. If you do, people will be less likely to donate as the thread disintegrates in to an inevitable hellscape.
Donate or don't.
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Post by lavalamp on Oct 24, 2020 17:46:30 GMT
Shameful that our Government is falling short in this way when they choose to put thousands of illegal economic migrants up in 4 star hotels around the country well fed with almost £40 per week spending money, paid for by us the Taxpayer. The vast majority of these illegals are men generally between the age of 18 to 26. Our own people should be fed first. No politics in this thread please, and if you really must, then at least do some research first. www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/28/are-asylum-seekers-really-living-in-luxury-hotels-qa |
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Post by axegas on Oct 24, 2020 17:50:18 GMT
Shameful that our Government is falling short in this way when they choose to put thousands of illegal economic migrants up in 4 star hotels around the country well fed with almost £40 per week spending money, paid for by us the Taxpayer. The vast majority of these illegals are men generally between the age of 18 to 26. Our own people should be fed first. There are many many reasons to be critical of the Government and its policies but this isn’t one of them. Why? Because it’s not even true. |
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Post by dragonfly on Oct 24, 2020 17:57:00 GMT
Shameful that our Government is falling short in this way when they choose to put thousands of illegal economic migrants up in 4 star hotels around the country well fed with almost £40 per week spending money, paid for by us the Taxpayer. The vast majority of these illegals are men generally between the age of 18 to 26. Our own people should be fed first. No politics in this thread please, and if you really must, then at least do some research. www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/28/are-asylum-seekers-really-living-in-luxury-hotels-qaWell if it is in the Guardian it must be true. If they are genuine asylum seekers why have they not claimed that right in France ? The last time I checked France was and still is a safe country. |
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Post by lavalamp on Oct 24, 2020 18:01:52 GMT
Well if it is in the Guardian it must be true. If they are genuine asylum seekers why have they not claimed that right in France ? The last time I checked France was and still is a safe country. So you really want to do politics, please link to all your proof please about illegal economic immigrants. Meanwhile people in this country are still going hungry. 🤦♂️ |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 18:09:56 GMT
Well if it is in the Guardian it must be true. If they are genuine asylum seekers why have they not claimed that right in France ? The last time I checked France was and still is a safe country. So you really want to do politics, please link to all your proof please about illegal economic immigrants. Meanwhile people in this country are still going hungry. 🤦♂️ This. |
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Post by peterparker on Oct 24, 2020 18:43:11 GMT
Well if it is in the Guardian it must be true. If they are genuine asylum seekers why have they not claimed that right in France ? The last time I checked France was and still is a safe country. Because you can seek asylum anywhere. France take more asylum seekers than us, as do Greece and many others. They dont all come flooding here contrary to popular belief |
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Post by dragonfly on Oct 24, 2020 18:55:48 GMT
Well if it is in the Guardian it must be true. If they are genuine asylum seekers why have they not claimed that right in France ? The last time I checked France was and still is a safe country. Because you can seek asylum anywhere. France take more asylum seekers than us, as do Greece and many others. They dont all come flooding here contrary to popular belief If fleeing persecution/war and you arrive in an EU country is is required that you claim asylum in the first EU country that you arrive in, which regarding the Channel crossers in not the UK. |
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Post by francegas on Oct 24, 2020 19:02:01 GMT
Because you can seek asylum anywhere. France take more asylum seekers than us, as do Greece and many others. They dont all come flooding here contrary to popular belief If fleeing persecution/war and you arrive in an EU country is is required that you claim asylum in the first EU country that you arrive in, which regarding the Channel crossers in not the UK. That I believe is correct under an EU law known as The Dublin Regulation. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Oct 24, 2020 19:02:33 GMT
Because you can seek asylum anywhere. France take more asylum seekers than us, as do Greece and many others. They dont all come flooding here contrary to popular belief If fleeing persecution/war and you arrive in an EU country is is required that you claim asylum in the first EU country that you arrive in, which regarding the Channel crossers in not the UK. Seriously I've asked twice nicely now. Please show some respect to the nature of the thread (our community in need) and take your politics elsewhere. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Oct 24, 2020 19:05:27 GMT
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Oct 24, 2020 19:06:24 GMT
Right fill your boots
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 19:49:34 GMT
Shameful that our Government is falling short in this way when they choose to put thousands of illegal economic migrants up in 4 star hotels around the country well fed with almost £40 per week spending money, paid for by us the Taxpayer. The vast majority of these illegals are men generally between the age of 18 to 26. Our own people should be fed first. You may have a point. But one thing that is patently clear from the FOI tuff that has been admitted of late is that the government have spent billions on ineffective test and trace and PPE (with links to their mates) whilst the citizens that they should be looking after are turning to food banks in crazy numbers. All that money siphoned out of the public purse to...where? Imagine the good it *could* have done at a grass roots level. That is why, to me, whilst I agree with the high level concept of feckless parents having kids they can’t afford, it is scandalous that we make the kids victims of their parents decisions and have a vote to feed these kids voted down considering the billions watered away on the aforementioned contracts. The bill for feeding these kids would be a pittance by comparison. Meanwhile these same people voting the motion down are able to avail themselves of quality steak every day subsidised by the tax payer. Can anyone justify that? I’m much rather my tax went towards feeding kids than pigs with their noses in the trough. |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 26, 2020 11:34:49 GMT
Shameful that our Government is falling short in this way when they choose to put thousands of illegal economic migrants up in 4 star hotels around the country well fed with almost £40 per week spending money, paid for by us the Taxpayer. The vast majority of these illegals are men generally between the age of 18 to 26. Our own people should be fed first. You may have a point. But one thing that is patently clear from the FOI tuff that has been admitted of late is that the government have spent billions on ineffective test and trace and PPE (with links to their mates) whilst the citizens that they should be looking after are turning to food banks in crazy numbers. All that money siphoned out of the public purse to...where? Imagine the good it *could* have done at a grass roots level. That is why, to me, whilst I agree with the high level concept of feckless parents having kids they can’t afford, it is scandalous that we make the kids victims of their parents decisions and have a vote to feed these kids voted down considering the billions watered away on the aforementioned contracts. The bill for feeding these kids would be a pittance by comparison. Meanwhile these same people voting the motion down are able to avail themselves of quality steak every day subsidised by the tax payer. Can anyone justify that? I’m much rather my tax went towards feeding kids than pigs with their noses in the trough. You’re quite right, it’s not the kids fault. It’s the fault of a system that allows feckless people to have kids, safe in the knowledge they will be given benefits which they are free to spend on whatever they like, with no compulsion to look after their children first. I just can’t understand how anyone could indulge themselves without first seeing their children were properly fed. I also agree with your thoughts on subsidised H of C restaurants. What I find even more incredible is that you don’t hear of one single Labour, Lib Dem or SNP politician refusing to avail themselves of the concession, or agitating for it to be removed. In exactly the same way as you never hear the bastards refuse their annual pay rise or pay into their pension scheme. And that, for a Socialist, is astounding Do as I say behaviour. |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 26, 2020 11:44:37 GMT
Well if it is in the Guardian it must be true. If they are genuine asylum seekers why have they not claimed that right in France ? The last time I checked France was and still is a safe country. Mate, seriously don’t bother. The Guardian and other Left Wing rags are their bible and if you disagree they will hound and harangue you into submission in tried and trusted Left Wing fashion. Better just to let the usual 4 or 5 Marxists rant about perceived inequalities and “it’s not fair-isms, someone’s got more than me” amongst themselves. That seems to make them happy as they go round and round and round on their Socialist carousel. Its better just to stick to the football. Fortunately a love of The Gas surmounts all barriers. |
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Post by peterparker on Oct 26, 2020 14:36:24 GMT
You may have a point. But one thing that is patently clear from the FOI tuff that has been admitted of late is that the government have spent billions on ineffective test and trace and PPE (with links to their mates) whilst the citizens that they should be looking after are turning to food banks in crazy numbers. All that money siphoned out of the public purse to...where? Imagine the good it *could* have done at a grass roots level. That is why, to me, whilst I agree with the high level concept of feckless parents having kids they can’t afford, it is scandalous that we make the kids victims of their parents decisions and have a vote to feed these kids voted down considering the billions watered away on the aforementioned contracts. The bill for feeding these kids would be a pittance by comparison. Meanwhile these same people voting the motion down are able to avail themselves of quality steak every day subsidised by the tax payer. Can anyone justify that? I’m much rather my tax went towards feeding kids than pigs with their noses in the trough. You’re quite right, it’s not the kids fault. It’s the fault of a system that allows feckless people to have kids, safe in the knowledge they will be given benefits which they are free to spend on whatever they like, with no compulsion to look after their children first. I just can’t understand how anyone could indulge themselves without first seeing their children were properly fed. I also agree with your thoughts on subsidised H of C restaurants. What I find even more incredible is that you don’t hear of one single Labour, Lib Dem or SNP politician refusing to avail themselves of the concession, or agitating for it to be removed. In exactly the same way as you never hear the bastards refuse their annual pay rise or pay into their pension scheme. And that, for a Socialist, is astounding Do as I say behaviour. solve me a riddle if you will The Government have said one of their reasons for voting against the meal vouchers is they have boosted universal credit surely better to give these feckless adults vouchers that have to be spent on food than a boost in universal credit that they can spend on anything else |
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Post by dragonfly on Oct 26, 2020 15:33:00 GMT
Well if it is in the Guardian it must be true. If they are genuine asylum seekers why have they not claimed that right in France ? The last time I checked France was and still is a safe country. Mate, seriously don’t bother. The Guardian and other Left Wing rags are their bible and if you disagree they will hound and harangue you into submission in tried and trusted Left Wing fashion. Better just to let the usual 4 or 5 Marxists rant about perceived inequalities and “it’s not fair-isms, someone’s got more than me” amongst themselves. That seems to make them happy as they go round and round and round on their Socialist carousel. Its better just to stick to the football. Fortunately a love of The Gas surmounts all barriers. I do not suppose they have a problem with BRFC currently being heavily propped up by their enemy i.e. Wael - a Capitalist. If in the future we become successful, will anyone begrudge Wael a decent return on his capital for the high degree of risk he has chosen? |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 26, 2020 15:40:46 GMT
Mate, seriously don’t bother. The Guardian and other Left Wing rags are their bible and if you disagree they will hound and harangue you into submission in tried and trusted Left Wing fashion. Better just to let the usual 4 or 5 Marxists rant about perceived inequalities and “it’s not fair-isms, someone’s got more than me” amongst themselves. That seems to make them happy as they go round and round and round on their Socialist carousel. Its better just to stick to the football. Fortunately a love of The Gas surmounts all barriers. I do not suppose they have a problem with BRFC currently being heavily propped up by their enemy i.e. Wael - a Capitalist. If in the future we become successful, will anyone begrudge Wael a decent return on his capital for the high degree of risk he has chosen? Good God they’d hate Wael making any money and would demand he spent all his profit building houses for the next arrivals from France via pedalo. They’d like to be able to run the club on a fan-owned basis, but the inhabitants of Marxist Corner haven’t got a pot to water in as a result of their generosity towards the disadvantaged. In short, they’ve given all their worldly wealth away to others because they felt too ashamed at having more than others. |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 26, 2020 16:00:18 GMT
You’re quite right, it’s not the kids fault. It’s the fault of a system that allows feckless people to have kids, safe in the knowledge they will be given benefits which they are free to spend on whatever they like, with no compulsion to look after their children first. I just can’t understand how anyone could indulge themselves without first seeing their children were properly fed. I also agree with your thoughts on subsidised H of C restaurants. What I find even more incredible is that you don’t hear of one single Labour, Lib Dem or SNP politician refusing to avail themselves of the concession, or agitating for it to be removed. In exactly the same way as you never hear the bastards refuse their annual pay rise or pay into their pension scheme. And that, for a Socialist, is astounding Do as I say behaviour. solve me a riddle if you will The Government have said one of their reasons for voting against the meal vouchers is they have boosted universal credit surely better to give these feckless adults vouchers that have to be spent on food than a boost in universal credit that they can spend on anything else Ah, but then you’d have the Left ranting about the vile, evil Tories daring to tell people how to spend their benefits. I well remember that smug Labour woman, can’t remember her name, praising immigrants as heroes for sending their benefit money back to their relatives in the 3rd world. So that was money given to be spent here, sent abroad for the benefit of corrupt banana republic regimes. Labour are unbelievably stupid. |
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