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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 16:08:04 GMT
solve me a riddle if you will The Government have said one of their reasons for voting against the meal vouchers is they have boosted universal credit surely better to give these feckless adults vouchers that have to be spent on food than a boost in universal credit that they can spend on anything else Ah, but then you’d have the Left ranting about the vile, evil Tories daring to tell people how to spend their benefits. I well remember that smug Labour woman, can’t remember her name, praising immigrants as heroes for sending their benefit money back to their relatives in the 3rd world. So that was money given to be spent here, sent abroad for the benefit of corrupt banana republic regimes. Labour are unbelievably stupid. Can't remember a name, so let's make it up. |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 26, 2020 16:12:06 GMT
Ah, but then you’d have the Left ranting about the vile, evil Tories daring to tell people how to spend their benefits. I well remember that smug Labour woman, can’t remember her name, praising immigrants as heroes for sending their benefit money back to their relatives in the 3rd world. So that was money given to be spent here, sent abroad for the benefit of corrupt banana republic regimes. Labour are unbelievably stupid. Can't remember a name, so let's make it up. Thought that would smoke you out. So, so predictable. Harriet Hartman was the stupid woman concerned. Gonna deny she said it, my little Marxist friend? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 16:29:38 GMT
Can't remember a name, so let's make it up. Thought that would smoke you out. So, so predictable. Harriet Hartman was the stupid woman concerned. Gonna deny she said it, my little Marxist friend? 😂😂😂😂 You are such an idiot, it's embarrassing for our generation. Us boomers take a lot of stick on here, some deserved, a lot not. But you, my goodness. With a proven lack of any ability to debate, an apparent lack of detailed knowledge of absolutely any topic, your only contribution to what has been a sensible discussion is to come back in and disrupt with baseless accusations and ridiculous name calling. Go forth Old Man and Multiply |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 26, 2020 18:16:16 GMT
Thought that would smoke you out. So, so predictable. Harriet Hartman was the stupid woman concerned. Gonna deny she said it, my little Marxist friend? 😂😂😂😂 You are such an idiot, it's embarrassing for our generation. Us boomers take a lot of stick on here, some deserved, a lot not. But you, my goodness. With a proven lack of any ability to debate, an apparent lack of detailed knowledge of absolutely any topic, your only contribution to what has been a sensible discussion is to come back in and disrupt with baseless accusations and ridiculous name calling. Go forth Old Man and Multiply Resorting to the tried and trusted Marxist tactic of insults and bullying. No doubt your Leftie friends will rally to the cause in due course. Back to the case in point :- Harriet Hartman. Gonna deny she said it? (Cue desperate searching through his stash of Guardian reports, desperate to find some bollox with which to deflect the need to answer the question. |
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Post by inee on Oct 26, 2020 19:32:11 GMT
Ah, but then you’d have the Left ranting about the vile, evil Tories daring to tell people how to spend their benefits. I well remember that smug Labour woman, can’t remember her name, praising immigrants as heroes for sending their benefit money back to their relatives in the 3rd world. So that was money given to be spent here, sent abroad for the benefit of corrupt banana republic regimes. Labour are unbelievably stupid. Can't remember a name, so let's make it up. harman temporary leader of the country for a while, said that about 2010(ish) , years later said the opposite, vile woman who should have along with hewit and i think a miliband should have been hung, drawn and quartered in public due to thier links to pie, but hey she doesnt even mentionit on her web page ,i wonder why . |
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Post by inee on Oct 26, 2020 19:39:59 GMT
You’re quite right, it’s not the kids fault. It’s the fault of a system that allows feckless people to have kids, safe in the knowledge they will be given benefits which they are free to spend on whatever they like, with no compulsion to look after their children first. I just can’t understand how anyone could indulge themselves without first seeing their children were properly fed. I also agree with your thoughts on subsidised H of C restaurants. What I find even more incredible is that you don’t hear of one single Labour, Lib Dem or SNP politician refusing to avail themselves of the concession, or agitating for it to be removed. In exactly the same way as you never hear the bastards refuse their annual pay rise or pay into their pension scheme. And that, for a Socialist, is astounding Do as I say behaviour. solve me a riddle if you will The Government have said one of their reasons for voting against the meal vouchers is they have boosted universal credit surely better to give these feckless adults vouchers that have to be spent on food than a boost in universal credit that they can spend on anything else Vouchers governments have been there in the past, milk tokens remember them ,taken in most shops ,even tobacconists , bus companies taxi companies, the real issue is people will always find a way around tokens used for payment. |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 26, 2020 20:38:23 GMT
😂😂😂😂 You are such an idiot, it's embarrassing for our generation. Us boomers take a lot of stick on here, some deserved, a lot not. But you, my goodness. With a proven lack of any ability to debate, an apparent lack of detailed knowledge of absolutely any topic, your only contribution to what has been a sensible discussion is to come back in and disrupt with baseless accusations and ridiculous name calling. Go forth Old Man and Multiply Resorting to the tried and trusted Marxist tactic of insults and bullying. No doubt your Leftie friends will rally to the cause in due course. Back to the case in point :- Harriet Hartman. Gonna deny she said it? (Cue desperate searching through his stash of Guardian reports, desperate to find some bollox with which to deflect the need to answer the question. In the words of Diana Ross: ‘Still waiting’ |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 21:23:24 GMT
😂😂😂😂 You are such an idiot, it's embarrassing for our generation. Us boomers take a lot of stick on here, some deserved, a lot not. But you, my goodness. With a proven lack of any ability to debate, an apparent lack of detailed knowledge of absolutely any topic, your only contribution to what has been a sensible discussion is to come back in and disrupt with baseless accusations and ridiculous name calling. Go forth Old Man and Multiply Resorting to the tried and trusted Marxist tactic of insults and bullying. No doubt your Leftie friends will rally to the cause in due course. Back to the case in point :- Harriet Hartman. Gonna deny she said it? (Cue desperate searching through his stash of Guardian reports, desperate to find some bollox with which to deflect the need to answer the question. You do realise your heroes have spent billions(!) in public money on a test and trace system that doesn’t work And PPE that wasn’t delivered. Why are you so obsessed on what a load of idiots did/said when they haven’t been in power for donkeys years and yet you won’t condemn what is happening now, right under your nose? Knowing you you will ignore what I’ve just said and ask me a question about Tony bloody Blair. I tried to defend you earlier but I think others are right- you are just on here for a wind up. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 21:56:52 GMT
Resorting to the tried and trusted Marxist tactic of insults and bullying. No doubt your Leftie friends will rally to the cause in due course. Back to the case in point :- Harriet Hartman. Gonna deny she said it? (Cue desperate searching through his stash of Guardian reports, desperate to find some bollox with which to deflect the need to answer the question. You do realise your heroes have spent billions(!) in public money on a test and trace system that doesn’t work And PPE that wasn’t delivered. Why are you so obsessed on what a load of idiots did/said when they haven’t been in power for donkeys years and yet you won’t condemn what is happening now, right under your nose? Knowing you you will ignore what I’ve just said and ask me a question about Tony bloody Blair. I tried to defend you earlier but I think others are right- you are just on here for a wind up. Yep Troll |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 26, 2020 23:01:25 GMT
Resorting to the tried and trusted Marxist tactic of insults and bullying. No doubt your Leftie friends will rally to the cause in due course. Back to the case in point :- Harriet Hartman. Gonna deny she said it? (Cue desperate searching through his stash of Guardian reports, desperate to find some bollox with which to deflect the need to answer the question. You do realise your heroes have spent billions(!) in public money on a test and trace system that doesn’t work And PPE that wasn’t delivered. Why are you so obsessed on what a load of idiots did/said when they haven’t been in power for donkeys years and yet you won’t condemn what is happening now, right under your nose? Knowing you you will ignore what I’ve just said and ask me a question about Tony bloody Blair. I tried to defend you earlier but I think others are right- you are just on here for a wind up. I am well aware you defended me earlier and I am still recovering from the shock. But thank you, I appreciate the gesture. As for the track and trace question, I wonder if anyone could have managed it any better? You have to accept that if Labour had won the GE then we would be in the hands of Corbyn and co. I suppose the track and trace would have been a lot cheaper if Abbot was doing the finances. As she was proposing paying Police Officers about £300 per year I suspect the system under Labour would have cost a few millions. You may laugh and jeer, but that is the calibre of people who would have been leading the country. That must induce a shudder of fear down your spine. Perhaps you could do me a favour. Your old mate Oldie seems incapable of answering a direct question so perhaps you could elicit a response. It’s a very simple question regarding Harriet Harman, he’s gone all silent. A very unusual state of affairs for a barrack room Marxist. |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 26, 2020 23:02:23 GMT
You do realise your heroes have spent billions(!) in public money on a test and trace system that doesn’t work And PPE that wasn’t delivered. Why are you so obsessed on what a load of idiots did/said when they haven’t been in power for donkeys years and yet you won’t condemn what is happening now, right under your nose? Knowing you you will ignore what I’ve just said and ask me a question about Tony bloody Blair. I tried to defend you earlier but I think others are right- you are just on here for a wind up. Yep Troll Harriet Harman? |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 26, 2020 23:10:39 GMT
You do realise your heroes have spent billions(!) in public money on a test and trace system that doesn’t work And PPE that wasn’t delivered. Why are you so obsessed on what a load of idiots did/said when they haven’t been in power for donkeys years and yet you won’t condemn what is happening now, right under your nose? Knowing you you will ignore what I’ve just said and ask me a question about Tony bloody Blair. I tried to defend you earlier but I think others are right- you are just on here for a wind up. I am well aware you defended me earlier and I am still recovering from the shock. But thank you, I appreciate the gesture. As for the track and trace question, I wonder if anyone could have managed it any better? You have to accept that if Labour had won the GE then we would be in the hands of Corbyn and co. I suppose the track and trace would have been a lot cheaper if Abbot was doing the finances. As she was proposing paying Police Officers about £300 per year I suspect the system under Labour would have cost a few millions. You may laugh and jeer, but that is the calibre of people who would have been leading the country. That must induce a shudder of fear down your spine. Perhaps you could do me a favour. Your old mate Oldie seems incapable of answering a direct question so perhaps you could elicit a response. It’s a very simple question regarding Harriet Harman, he’s gone all silent. A very unusual state of affairs for a barrack room Marxist. How about Priti Patel , she’s good with numbers . “Three hundred thousand, and thirty four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand” |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 23:32:35 GMT
You do realise your heroes have spent billions(!) in public money on a test and trace system that doesn’t work And PPE that wasn’t delivered. Why are you so obsessed on what a load of idiots did/said when they haven’t been in power for donkeys years and yet you won’t condemn what is happening now, right under your nose? Knowing you you will ignore what I’ve just said and ask me a question about Tony bloody Blair. I tried to defend you earlier but I think others are right- you are just on here for a wind up. I am well aware you defended me earlier and I am still recovering from the shock. But thank you, I appreciate the gesture. As for the track and trace question, I wonder if anyone could have managed it any better? You have to accept that if Labour had won the GE then we would be in the hands of Corbyn and co. I suppose the track and trace would have been a lot cheaper if Abbot was doing the finances. As she was proposing paying Police Officers about £300 per year I suspect the system under Labour would have cost a few millions. You may laugh and jeer, but that is the calibre of people who would have been leading the country. That must induce a shudder of fear down your spine. Perhaps you could do me a favour. Your old mate Oldie seems incapable of answering a direct question so perhaps you could elicit a response. It’s a very simple question regarding Harriet Harman, he’s gone all silent. A very unusual state of affairs for a barrack room Marxist. Hmm...well, there you go, once again not outright condemnation but answering a question with a question. I’m feeling charitable tonight (obviously) so I’ll play the game of “imaginary governments” and speculate that whilst I will be the first to admit that the Labour front bench is hardly stellar this Tory government has been so beset by scandal that it’s still hard to see how they could have been worse. I guess it depends under what metrics you define worse? More money spent? More deaths? I’m not sure what their policy on lockdown would be because as it is they seem to change with the wind as to whether they are for or against lockdown at the moment. They would have undoubtedly spent more on both furlough schemes and on increasing benefits which I can imagine would anger a lot of the public whose jobs were secure (a load of Tory voters amongst that number no doubt). But that money could have recouped to some degree by the fact they wouldn’t have watered money away on contracts to their mates. As someone who works as a software developer trust me there is no way that test and trace app would cost billions to make unless there were fat profits involved. The low millions is what it should have cost. Your kids are going to be paying for it so if you feel aggrieved at the benefits bill you should be bloody fuming about how they have blatantly taken the water out of the tax payer with that stroke. So any money Labour would have over spent on the economy would have partially clawed back by more efficient work in test and trace and acquiring PPE. As to how many lives would have been lost that’s hard to answer. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 26, 2020 23:48:04 GMT
solve me a riddle if you will The Government have said one of their reasons for voting against the meal vouchers is they have boosted universal credit surely better to give these feckless adults vouchers that have to be spent on food than a boost in universal credit that they can spend on anything else Ah, but then you’d have the Left ranting about the vile, evil Tories daring to tell people how to spend their benefits. I well remember that smug Labour woman, can’t remember her name, praising immigrants as heroes for sending their benefit money back to their relatives in the 3rd world. So that was money given to be spent here, sent abroad for the benefit of corrupt banana republic regimes. Labour are unbelievably stupid. Is that remittances you are referring to? If so, the Conservatives were happy with the concept too. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 26, 2020 23:49:13 GMT
I am well aware you defended me earlier and I am still recovering from the shock. But thank you, I appreciate the gesture. As for the track and trace question, I wonder if anyone could have managed it any better? You have to accept that if Labour had won the GE then we would be in the hands of Corbyn and co. I suppose the track and trace would have been a lot cheaper if Abbot was doing the finances. As she was proposing paying Police Officers about £300 per year I suspect the system under Labour would have cost a few millions. You may laugh and jeer, but that is the calibre of people who would have been leading the country. That must induce a shudder of fear down your spine. Perhaps you could do me a favour. Your old mate Oldie seems incapable of answering a direct question so perhaps you could elicit a response. It’s a very simple question regarding Harriet Harman, he’s gone all silent. A very unusual state of affairs for a barrack room Marxist. How about Priti Patel , she’s good with numbers . “Three hundred thousand, and thirty four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand” And Anglo-Israeli relations. |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 27, 2020 9:20:29 GMT
I am well aware you defended me earlier and I am still recovering from the shock. But thank you, I appreciate the gesture. As for the track and trace question, I wonder if anyone could have managed it any better? You have to accept that if Labour had won the GE then we would be in the hands of Corbyn and co. I suppose the track and trace would have been a lot cheaper if Abbot was doing the finances. As she was proposing paying Police Officers about £300 per year I suspect the system under Labour would have cost a few millions. You may laugh and jeer, but that is the calibre of people who would have been leading the country. That must induce a shudder of fear down your spine. Perhaps you could do me a favour. Your old mate Oldie seems incapable of answering a direct question so perhaps you could elicit a response. It’s a very simple question regarding Harriet Harman, he’s gone all silent. A very unusual state of affairs for a barrack room Marxist. Hmm...well, there you go, once again not outright condemnation but answering a question with a question. I’m feeling charitable tonight (obviously) so I’ll play the game of “imaginary governments” and speculate that whilst I will be the first to admit that the Labour front bench is hardly stellar this Tory government has been so beset by scandal that it’s still hard to see how they could have been worse. I guess it depends under what metrics you define worse? More money spent? More deaths? I’m not sure what their policy on lockdown would be because as it is they seem to change with the wind as to whether they are for or against lockdown at the moment. They would have undoubtedly spent more on both furlough schemes and on increasing benefits which I can imagine would anger a lot of the public whose jobs were secure (a load of Tory voters amongst that number no doubt). But that money could have recouped to some degree by the fact they wouldn’t have watered money away on contracts to their mates. As someone who works as a software developer trust me there is no way that test and trace app would cost billions to make unless there were fat profits involved. The low millions is what it should have cost. Your kids are going to be paying for it so if you feel aggrieved at the benefits bill you should be bloody fuming about how they have blatantly taken the water out of the tax payer with that stroke. So any money Labour would have over spent on the economy would have partially clawed back by more efficient work in test and trace and acquiring PPE. As to how many lives would have been lost that’s hard to answer. Love your charitable attitude, however your argument collapsed in the third line. If Labour had won the GE, it would have been a totally different front bench, consisting of the likes of Corbyn, Abbot, McDonnel, Gardiner et al. F me! |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 27, 2020 9:21:54 GMT
You do realise your heroes have spent billions(!) in public money on a test and trace system that doesn’t work And PPE that wasn’t delivered. Why are you so obsessed on what a load of idiots did/said when they haven’t been in power for donkeys years and yet you won’t condemn what is happening now, right under your nose? Knowing you you will ignore what I’ve just said and ask me a question about Tony bloody Blair. I tried to defend you earlier but I think others are right- you are just on here for a wind up. Yep Troll Harriet Harman? |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 27, 2020 9:31:17 GMT
You’re quite right, it’s not the kids fault. It’s the fault of a system that allows feckless people to have kids, safe in the knowledge they will be given benefits which they are free to spend on whatever they like, with no compulsion to look after their children first. I just can’t understand how anyone could indulge themselves without first seeing their children were properly fed. I also agree with your thoughts on subsidised H of C restaurants. What I find even more incredible is that you don’t hear of one single Labour, Lib Dem or SNP politician refusing to avail themselves of the concession, or agitating for it to be removed. In exactly the same way as you never hear the bastards refuse their annual pay rise or pay into their pension scheme. And that, for a Socialist, is astounding Do as I say behaviour. solve me a riddle if you will The Government have said one of their reasons for voting against the meal vouchers is they have boosted universal credit surely better to give these feckless adults vouchers that have to be spent on food than a boost in universal credit that they can spend on anything else There’s no riddle involved. It clearly illustrates there is a feckless, lazy, grabbing underbelly of people in this country who’s first and last thought is themselves, and bollox to everything and everyone else, including their own children. Iwonder how long it would take for a black market trade in these vouchers, where organisations would but them from the ‘needy’ at 75p in the pound? |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 27, 2020 9:33:08 GMT
I am well aware you defended me earlier and I am still recovering from the shock. But thank you, I appreciate the gesture. As for the track and trace question, I wonder if anyone could have managed it any better? You have to accept that if Labour had won the GE then we would be in the hands of Corbyn and co. I suppose the track and trace would have been a lot cheaper if Abbot was doing the finances. As she was proposing paying Police Officers about £300 per year I suspect the system under Labour would have cost a few millions. You may laugh and jeer, but that is the calibre of people who would have been leading the country. That must induce a shudder of fear down your spine. Perhaps you could do me a favour. Your old mate Oldie seems incapable of answering a direct question so perhaps you could elicit a response. It’s a very simple question regarding Harriet Harman, he’s gone all silent. A very unusual state of affairs for a barrack room Marxist. How about Priti Patel , she’s good with numbers . “Three hundred thousand, and thirty four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand” Desperate deflection. |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 27, 2020 9:34:00 GMT
How about Priti Patel , she’s good with numbers . “Three hundred thousand, and thirty four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand” And Anglo-Israeli relations. Even more desperate deflection. |
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