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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 28, 2020 15:23:46 GMT
Two thoughts, one is the Chancellor saying he is not blocking free school meals (dig at Boris?) and the other is an Indian charity providing meals in Watford.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 15:39:35 GMT
Two thoughts, one is the Chancellor saying he is not blocking free school meals (dig at Boris?) and the other is an Indian charity providing meals in Watford. Absolutely no time for Murthy and Infosys. This sort of top down paternalism is pure BS. He will better advised to address the disgraceful Cast system still in place and the abject poverty rife in India. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 19:11:50 GMT
Two thoughts, one is the Chancellor saying he is not blocking free school meals (dig at Boris?) and the other is an Indian charity providing meals in Watford. That’s one for oldgas, he spoke of humiliation the other day, well how’s this for an embarrassing reversal of fortune: an Indian child poverty charity opening soup kitchens to feed U.K. school children! If that doesn’t show how Britain is in rude health with a no deal Brexit on the way then I don’t know what does. Whatever next? An unkempt Ethiopian records a charity single called “do they know it’s Brexit?” to feed starving British kids? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 13:13:04 GMT
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Post by francegas on Oct 29, 2020 14:41:01 GMT
Doesn't make good reading I agree. It's almost on par with Labour MP Derek Wyatt who claimed on parliamentary expenses £0.75p on two scotch eggs and £1.79p on five mini pork pies to feed his fat face at a time when Labour rejected giving free school meals and implementing a furlough scheme to protect jobs during the crash of 2008/9. Not forgetting two jags Prescott who claimed for two toilet seats in two years. Maybe if he'd gone on a diet one would have been enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 14:47:07 GMT
Doesn't make good reading I agree. It's almost on par with Labour MP Derek Wyatt who claimed on parliamentary expenses £0.75p on two scotch eggs and £1.79p on five mini pork pies to feed his fat face at a time when Labour rejected giving free school meals and implementing a furlough scheme to protect jobs during the crash of 2008/9. Not forgetting two jags Prescott who claimed for two toilet seats in two years. Maybe if he'd gone on a diet one would have been enough. Come on FG Enough of the "Whataboutery" You are better than that, surely |
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 29, 2020 15:23:12 GMT
Doesn't make good reading I agree. It's almost on par with Labour MP Derek Wyatt who claimed on parliamentary expenses £0.75p on two scotch eggs and £1.79p on five mini pork pies to feed his fat face at a time when Labour rejected giving free school meals and implementing a furlough scheme to protect jobs during the crash of 2008/9. Not forgetting two jags Prescott who claimed for two toilet seats in two years. Maybe if he'd gone on a diet one would have been enough. Prescott suffered from bulimia, didn't he? Anyway, expense scams cover all parties, whatever happened to this man? www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5431700/MPs-expenses-Boris-Johnson-claimed-16.50-for-Remembrance-Sunday-wreath.html |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 16:16:16 GMT
Doesn't make good reading I agree. It's almost on par with Labour MP Derek Wyatt who claimed on parliamentary expenses £0.75p on two scotch eggs and £1.79p on five mini pork pies to feed his fat face at a time when Labour rejected giving free school meals and implementing a furlough scheme to protect jobs during the crash of 2008/9. Not forgetting two jags Prescott who claimed for two toilet seats in two years. Maybe if he'd gone on a diet one would have been enough. Prescott suffered from bulimia, didn't he? Anyway, expense scams cover all parties, whatever happened to this man? www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5431700/MPs-expenses-Boris-Johnson-claimed-16.50-for-Remembrance-Sunday-wreath.htmlOh my god. I had forgotten that I feel sick |
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Post by francegas on Oct 29, 2020 17:19:40 GMT
Oh my god. I had forgotten that I feel sick And there you go Oldie. Classic example of why it's impossible to have a balanced discussion on these threads. A post about an expenses claim from a Tory MP is made and your disgusted about it. I post to add some balance about a Labour MP claiming for snacks and all I get in response is enough of this 'Whataboutery'. Then in response to me a post going back to 2009 is made about Boris and low and behold you respond with "I'd forgotten about that " Somewhat hypocritical don't you think? On other threads we've had how Maggie T didn't replace the social housing sold off under the right to buy scheme and your all in agreement, not one of you came out saying enough of the whataboutery. Seems like all these threads are a one sided discussion. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 18:53:21 GMT
Oh my god. I had forgotten that I feel sick And there you go Oldie. Classic example of why it's impossible to have a balanced discussion on these threads. A post about an expenses claim from a Tory MP is made and your disgusted about it. I post to add some balance about a Labour MP claiming for snacks and all I get in response is enough of this 'Whataboutery'. Then in response to me a post going back to 2009 is made about Boris and low and behold you respond with "I'd forgotten about that " Somewhat hypocritical don't you think? On other threads we've had how Maggie T didn't replace the social housing sold off under the right to buy scheme and your all in agreement, not one of you came out saying enough of the whataboutery. Seems like all these threads are a one sided discussion. Well In my defence, he is Prime Minister. Therefore any comment on him is current, surely? |
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Post by francegas on Oct 29, 2020 19:02:01 GMT
And there you go Oldie. Classic example of why it's impossible to have a balanced discussion on these threads. A post about an expenses claim from a Tory MP is made and your disgusted about it. I post to add some balance about a Labour MP claiming for snacks and all I get in response is enough of this 'Whataboutery'. Then in response to me a post going back to 2009 is made about Boris and low and behold you respond with "I'd forgotten about that " Somewhat hypocritical don't you think? On other threads we've had how Maggie T didn't replace the social housing sold off under the right to buy scheme and your all in agreement, not one of you came out saying enough of the whataboutery. Seems like all these threads are a one sided discussion. Well In my defence, he is Prime Minister. Therefore any comment on him is current, surely? It's not current when it goes back to 2009, Surely? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 19:26:40 GMT
Well In my defence, he is Prime Minister. Therefore any comment on him is current, surely? It's not current when it goes back to 2009, Surely? Let's be honest here. He is in the most powerful job in Government. Of course his character is relevant, whether it be last week, last month or last year. Of course you can add sacked for lying, overt racist comments, serial incompetence and making up stories about leaving the EU. My conscience is clear, I didn't vote for the w**ker. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 29, 2020 19:50:31 GMT
Oh my god. I had forgotten that I feel sick And there you go Oldie. Classic example of why it's impossible to have a balanced discussion on these threads. A post about an expenses claim from a Tory MP is made and your disgusted about it. I post to add some balance about a Labour MP claiming for snacks and all I get in response is enough of this 'Whataboutery'. Then in response to me a post going back to 2009 is made about Boris and low and behold you respond with "I'd forgotten about that " Somewhat hypocritical don't you think? On other threads we've had how Maggie T didn't replace the social housing sold off under the right to buy scheme and your all in agreement, not one of you came out saying enough of the whataboutery. Seems like all these threads are a one sided discussion. Couple of points there, the article itself is current and relevant to the free school meals story. It was your good self who raised the issue of the two expenses stories from 2008. I did then mention that all parties were doing it, therefore trying to show balance. The Boris comment was raised as an example, although personally claiming for Poppies is pretty low (and there are others too, including Labour). In terms of selling off housing, that was one of the root causes of house prices and availabilty of housing stock, so relevant to the topic. |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 30, 2020 14:23:12 GMT
Oh my god. I had forgotten that I feel sick And there you go Oldie. Classic example of why it's impossible to have a balanced discussion on these threads. A post about an expenses claim from a Tory MP is made and your disgusted about it. I post to add some balance about a Labour MP claiming for snacks and all I get in response is enough of this 'Whataboutery'. Then in response to me a post going back to 2009 is made about Boris and low and behold you respond with "I'd forgotten about that " Somewhat hypocritical don't you think? On other threads we've had how Maggie T didn't replace the social housing sold off under the right to buy scheme and your all in agreement, not one of you came out saying enough of the whataboutery. Seems like all these threads are a one sided discussion. And you’ve just hit the nail on the head, Francegas. In common with the Marxist left all they want to do is have a discussion amongst themselves about what a bunch of racist, uncaring bastards anyone slightly to the right of centre is. They can then reach an agreed level of bastardry for their current target, pat each other on the back then move on to the next target. They really do not welcome debate with opposing viewpoints and quickly revert to personal vilification to drive those that do t agree away. That is why they will never hold any power in this country because they are beyond mature debate. They will never fully accept criticism, even when something against them has been proved beyond doubt. On another thread, following on from the Labour debacle over anti-Smitism, they are already floating excuses. The first is that Labour is held to a higher standard that the Conservatives! You really couldn’t make it up, especially when you consider they have The Guardian, SpectTator, BBC, ITV and Channel 4 on their side. It won’t be long, I guarantee,before they are making all sorts of accusations about Islamaphobia. Just wait and see. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 14:26:29 GMT
And there you go Oldie. Classic example of why it's impossible to have a balanced discussion on these threads. A post about an expenses claim from a Tory MP is made and your disgusted about it. I post to add some balance about a Labour MP claiming for snacks and all I get in response is enough of this 'Whataboutery'. Then in response to me a post going back to 2009 is made about Boris and low and behold you respond with "I'd forgotten about that " Somewhat hypocritical don't you think? On other threads we've had how Maggie T didn't replace the social housing sold off under the right to buy scheme and your all in agreement, not one of you came out saying enough of the whataboutery. Seems like all these threads are a one sided discussion. And you’ve just hit the nail on the head, Francegas. In common with the Marxist left all they want to do is have a discussion amongst themselves about what a bunch of racist, uncaring bastards anyone slightly to the right of centre is. They can then reach an agreed level of bastardry for their current target, pat each other on the back then move on to the next target. They really do not welcome debate with opposing viewpoints and quickly revert to personal vilification to drive those that do t agree away. That is why they will never hold any power in this country because they are beyond mature debate. They will never fully accept criticism, even when something against them has been proved beyond doubt. On another thread, following on from the Labour debacle over anti-Smitism, they are already floating excuses. The first is that Labour is held to a higher standard that the Conservatives! You really couldn’t make it up, especially when you consider they have The Guardian, SpectTator, BBC, ITV and Channel 4 on their side. It won’t be long, I guarantee,before they are making all sorts of accusations about Islamaphobia. Just wait and see. Very happy to have a "mature" debate with anyone who can quote empirical evidence when stating an opinion as a fact. I am afraid you never have. Ever. |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 30, 2020 14:37:09 GMT
And you’ve just hit the nail on the head, Francegas. In common with the Marxist left all they want to do is have a discussion amongst themselves about what a bunch of racist, uncaring bastards anyone slightly to the right of centre is. They can then reach an agreed level of bastardry for their current target, pat each other on the back then move on to the next target. They really do not welcome debate with opposing viewpoints and quickly revert to personal vilification to drive those that do t agree away. That is why they will never hold any power in this country because they are beyond mature debate. They will never fully accept criticism, even when something against them has been proved beyond doubt. On another thread, following on from the Labour debacle over anti-Smitism, they are already floating excuses. The first is that Labour is held to a higher standard that the Conservatives! You really couldn’t make it up, especially when you consider they have The Guardian, SpectTator, BBC, ITV and Channel 4 on their side. It won’t be long, I guarantee,before they are making all sorts of accusations about Islamaphobia. Just wait and see. Very. happy to have a "mature" debate with anyone who can quote empirical evidence when stating an opinion as a fact. I am afraid you never have. Ever. 1) HArriet Harman said immigrants were heroes for sending their benefit money abroad. You’ve never confirmed or denied this. 2) Jeremy Corbyn has been found to have headed a political party that exercised systemic racism against the Jewish race. He has continued to deny this and says it has been vastly exaggerated. Care to confirm or deny this? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 15:17:02 GMT
Very. happy to have a "mature" debate with anyone who can quote empirical evidence when stating an opinion as a fact. I am afraid you never have. Ever. 1) HArriet Harman said immigrants were heroes for sending their benefit money abroad. You’ve never confirmed or denied this. 2) Jeremy Corbyn has been found to have headed a political party that exercised systemic racism against the Jewish race. He has continued to deny this and says it has been vastly exaggerated. Care to confirm or deny this? Harman was never a topic of debate or discussion. You were just fishing in the lake of deflection. Corbyn has been discussed and I have made my comment on that, a view in common with most it appears. Perhaps if you opined on a topic in existence, or indeed create your own topic, without throwing around very child like comments such as "lefty" and "Marxist", then openly admitting you are only here to wind people up, you might actually be treated with more respect. As it is, you have not earned that respect, in fact you have opened yourself up to abject ridicule. Which is what has happened. Sort yourself out and perhaps we can all enjoy a reasonable conversation. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Oct 30, 2020 17:22:18 GMT
1) HArriet Harman said immigrants were heroes for sending their benefit money abroad. You’ve never confirmed or denied this. 2) Jeremy Corbyn has been found to have headed a political party that exercised systemic racism against the Jewish race. He has continued to deny this and says it has been vastly exaggerated. Care to confirm or deny this? Harman was never a topic of debate or discussion. You were just fishing in the lake of deflection. Corbyn has been discussed and I have made my comment on that, a view in common with most it appears. Perhaps if you opined on a topic in existence, or indeed create your own topic, without throwing around very child like comments such as "lefty" and "Marxist", then openly admitting you are only here to wind people up, you might actually be treated with more respect. As it is, you have not earned that respect, in fact you have opened yourself up to abject ridicule. Which is what has happened. Sort yourself out and perhaps we can all enjoy a reasonable conversation. I'm sorry to say oldgas there's a lot of truth in this. There's a world of difference between how say you and francegas deliver your opinions. There's often a lot of vitriol and bile in yours unfortunately and as I have said before, when engaged, you either ignore it or duck out, only to return later to suggest nobody wants a mature debate with you. This is just the latest in your cycle. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 18:58:25 GMT
Harman was never a topic of debate or discussion. You were just fishing in the lake of deflection. Corbyn has been discussed and I have made my comment on that, a view in common with most it appears. Perhaps if you opined on a topic in existence, or indeed create your own topic, without throwing around very child like comments such as "lefty" and "Marxist", then openly admitting you are only here to wind people up, you might actually be treated with more respect. As it is, you have not earned that respect, in fact you have opened yourself up to abject ridicule. Which is what has happened. Sort yourself out and perhaps we can all enjoy a reasonable conversation. I'm sorry to say oldgas there's a lot of truth in this. There's a world of difference between how say you and francegas deliver your opinions. There's often a lot of vitriol and bile in yours unfortunately and as I have said before, when engaged, you either ignore it or duck out, only to return later to suggest nobody wants a mature debate with you. This is just the latest in your cycle. Can’t stand scrutiny, that’ll be why |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 19:35:14 GMT
I'm sorry to say oldgas there's a lot of truth in this. There's a world of difference between how say you and francegas deliver your opinions. There's often a lot of vitriol and bile in yours unfortunately and as I have said before, when engaged, you either ignore it or duck out, only to return later to suggest nobody wants a mature debate with you. This is just the latest in your cycle. Can’t stand scrutiny, that’ll be why Give him time to respond, but I have a feeling he will not. At which point a conclusion can be safely reached. |
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