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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 15, 2020 18:11:37 GMT
This is the sort of dangerous bullshit the Moderators should take action on What a snidey coward
If you want to discuss it among like minded people then you're welcome to find a forum for that, but it's not this one.
If you're a medical expert (which you obviously think you are) discuss it with your medical expert colleagues on the medical expert forum where all the medical experts go.
You're free to act however you want, of course, but please don't spread misinformation or play down the disease on this forum. It just isn't the place for it.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 15, 2020 18:13:12 GMT
My sister works on a covid ward , she’s dealing with on average 5 deaths a week . Really can’t be dealing with idiots . I said “ Quite surprised by the responses here. I’d have thought anyone who looked at the data worldwide wouldn’t be fearful at all. I certainly am not, and I’m in an at risk group! The chances of death are minuscule unless you’re over 80 or seriously unwell. I would have thought people are getting a bit tired of the mishandling of it. Plenty of countries in asia with single digits and tiny health budgets who aren’t seeing their lives destroyed” Can you explain what isn’t true about that? Or is it anything which isn’t in full support of lockdowns? It’s a far more nuanced question. Personally I think you’re just like the many, many people that have taken this pandemic as an opportunity to act like a Stalinist ARP warden. The point is we will have generations paying off the debt, ruined businesses, impoverished families, and some developing economies have dealt with it far better. It’s a nasty virus but the chances of any of our players dying from it are remote. Ffs , the chances of any of those players passing the virus on to others that MAY die is the reason . That’s why people should be fearful. I can’t help you if you can’t understand this simple point. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 15, 2020 18:14:04 GMT
Please don't play down the pandemic on this forum. Thanks.
If you want to discuss it among like minded people then you're welcome to find a forum for that, but it's not this one.
If you're a medical expert (which you obviously think you are) discuss it with your medical expert colleagues on the medical expert forum where all the medical experts go.
You're free to act however you want, of course, but please don't spread misinformation or play down the disease on this forum. It just isn't the place for it.
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Post by yetigas on Dec 15, 2020 18:38:28 GMT
Quite surprised by the responses here. I’d have thought anyone who looked at the data worldwide wouldn’t be fearful at all. I certainly am not, and I’m in an at risk group! The chances of death are minuscule unless you’re over 80 or seriously unwell. I would have thought people are getting a bit tired of the mishandling of it. Plenty of countries in asia with single digits and tiny health budgets who aren’t seeing their lives destroyed Quite right - but that is because they have governments who are competent and who took action early. And they have people who respect the directives given by their governments. What do we have? An incompetent clown as prime minister, and senior advisers who flout their own rules. As if people are not suffering enough, we are now going to 'enjoy Christmas' and then suffer even more in January. Meanwhile my friends in Vietnam are enjoying the freedom to carry on as normal because they have a government that cares and who took the right action at the right time. |
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Post by gulfofaden on Dec 15, 2020 18:43:38 GMT
Quite surprised by the responses here. I’d have thought anyone who looked at the data worldwide wouldn’t be fearful at all. I certainly am not, and I’m in an at risk group! The chances of death are minuscule unless you’re over 80 or seriously unwell. I would have thought people are getting a bit tired of the mishandling of it. Plenty of countries in asia with single digits and tiny health budgets who aren’t seeing their lives destroyed Quite right - but that is because they have governments who are competent and who took action early. And they have people who respect the directives given by their governments. What do we have? An incompetent clown as prime minister, and senior advisers who flout their own rules. As if people are not suffering enough, we are now going to 'enjoy Christmas' and then suffer even more in January. Meanwhile my friends in Vietnam are enjoying the freedom to carry on as normal because they have a government that cares and who took the right action at the right time. My friend, I have lots of ties to that country and I know what the reality is there. It’s dangerous bullshit apparently - expect moderation. |
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Post by Jomo on Dec 15, 2020 18:45:17 GMT
I said “ Quite surprised by the responses here. I’d have thought anyone who looked at the data worldwide wouldn’t be fearful at all. I certainly am not, and I’m in an at risk group! The chances of death are minuscule unless you’re over 80 or seriously unwell. I would have thought people are getting a bit tired of the mishandling of it. Plenty of countries in asia with single digits and tiny health budgets who aren’t seeing their lives destroyed” Can you explain what isn’t true about that? Or is it anything which isn’t in full support of lockdowns? It’s a far more nuanced question. Personally I think you’re just like the many, many people that have taken this pandemic as an opportunity to act like a Stalinist ARP warden. The point is we will have generations paying off the debt, ruined businesses, impoverished families, and some developing economies have dealt with it far better. It’s a nasty virus but the chances of any of our players dying from it are remote. Ffs , the chances of any of those players passing the virus on to others that MAY die is the reason . That’s why people should be fearful. I can’t help you if you can’t understand this simple point. Exactly, it's not about letting those that would be unlikely to die from it just get on with their lives as normal without worrying about it. The more people that have it, badly affected or not, then the more vulnerable people will contract it and the more overwhelmed our health service would become. Lack of understanding of this is just ignorance and the fact that so many people in this country take it lightly is the reason we will be under restrictions for a lot longer yet, sadly. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 15, 2020 18:47:22 GMT
This is the sort of dangerous bullshit the Moderators should take action on Stating facts is now dangerous bullshit...spoken like a true socialist.... And here’s another idiot ...☝️ |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 18:48:47 GMT
Quite surprised by the responses here. I’d have thought anyone who looked at the data worldwide wouldn’t be fearful at all. I certainly am not, and I’m in an at risk group! The chances of death are minuscule unless you’re over 80 or seriously unwell. I would have thought people are getting a bit tired of the mishandling of it. Plenty of countries in asia with single digits and tiny health budgets who aren’t seeing their lives destroyed Behave ffs. Go and have a wander round the ICUs in this country, speak to the actual doctors treating people every day and then tell us all that it’s nothing to worry about. And the issue isn’t just death, my mate’s wife beat covid months ago but she can’t get out of bed because the after effects are continuing to rob her of her energy some 9 months later. Imagine the bill the country would face for long covid care if we just allowed it to run through the population? Seriously, you “it’s just a cold” people need to give your heads a serious wobble. |
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Post by gulfofaden on Dec 15, 2020 18:48:47 GMT
Ffs , the chances of any of those players passing the virus on to others that MAY die is the reason . That’s why people should be fearful. I can’t help you if you can’t understand this simple point. Exactly, it's not about letting those that would be unlikely to die from it just get on with their lives as normal without worrying about it. The more people that have it, badly affected or not, then the more vulnerable people will contract it and the more overwhelmed our health service would become. Lack of understanding of this is just ignorance and the fact that so many people in this country take it lightly is the reason we will be under restrictions for a lot longer yet, sadly. q I didn’t say anything about that. I said: - our country mishandled the pandemic - The risk of death if you’re under 80 or seriously unwell Is minimal. People haven’t listened to what I said. It set off some sort of red flag. |
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Post by tinner on Dec 15, 2020 18:52:44 GMT
Stating facts is now dangerous bullshit...spoken like a true socialist.... And here’s another idiot ...☝️ Says Mr FBPE merchant.......tell what point he made was bullshit? |
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Post by gulfofaden on Dec 15, 2020 18:52:49 GMT
Quite surprised by the responses here. I’d have thought anyone who looked at the data worldwide wouldn’t be fearful at all. I certainly am not, and I’m in an at risk group! The chances of death are minuscule unless you’re over 80 or seriously unwell. I would have thought people are getting a bit tired of the mishandling of it. Plenty of countries in asia with single digits and tiny health budgets who aren’t seeing their lives destroyed Behave ffs. Go and have a wander round the ICUs in this country, speak to the actual doctors treating people every day and then tell us all that it’s nothing to worry about. And the issue isn’t just death, my mate’s wife beat covid months ago but she can’t get out of bed because the after effects are continuing to rob her of her energy some 9 months later. Imagine the bill the country would face for long covid care if we just allowed it to run through the population? Seriously, you “it’s just a cold” people need to give your heads a serious wobble. I didn’t say any of that did I? This really is continued evidence people just love a good virtue signal. People were giving thoughts and prayers to our early 20s players for goodness sake. The chances of them dying is minimal. Almost impossible. |
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Post by pucklegas on Dec 15, 2020 18:55:35 GMT
I am embarrassed by some of this on here if readers of this thread have had family or friends who have died or are seriously ill this would upset them greatly, think the mods should delete this asap.
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Post by tinner on Dec 15, 2020 18:56:35 GMT
Quite surprised by the responses here. I’d have thought anyone who looked at the data worldwide wouldn’t be fearful at all. I certainly am not, and I’m in an at risk group! The chances of death are minuscule unless you’re over 80 or seriously unwell. I would have thought people are getting a bit tired of the mishandling of it. Plenty of countries in asia with single digits and tiny health budgets who aren’t seeing their lives destroyed Behave ffs. Go and have a wander round the ICUs in this country, speak to the actual doctors treating people every day and then tell us all that it’s nothing to worry about. And the issue isn’t just death, my mate’s wife beat covid months ago but she can’t get out of bed because the after effects are continuing to rob her of her energy some 9 months later. Imagine the bill the country would face for long covid care if we just allowed it to run through the population? Seriously, you “it’s just a cold” people need to give your heads a serious wobble. Suggest you start having a word with donut loving brigade then, because obesity causes more deaths and is a far greater strain on the NHS than COVID ever will be |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 15, 2020 18:56:47 GMT
Exactly, it's not about letting those that would be unlikely to die from it just get on with their lives as normal without worrying about it. The more people that have it, badly affected or not, then the more vulnerable people will contract it and the more overwhelmed our health service would become. Lack of understanding of this is just ignorance and the fact that so many people in this country take it lightly is the reason we will be under restrictions for a lot longer yet, sadly. q I didn’t say anything about that. I said: - our country mishandled the pandemic - The risk of death if you’re under 80 or seriously unwell Is minimal. People haven’t listened to what I said. It set off some sort of red flag. Depends how you define minimal. What's the death rate in, say, over 60s? What's the death rate in over sixties with the NHS swamped (a lot higher). How many over-60 Gasheads are there? Multiply one by the other, and that is the number of dead Gasheads there would be if the disease wasn't checked. Add about that number again with long-term debilitating effects. If you want to be the arch-pragmatist, work that number out then come back here and call it minimal. |
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Post by gregsy on Dec 15, 2020 18:56:52 GMT
Its like general chat on the main board this one....
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Post by tinner on Dec 15, 2020 18:59:50 GMT
I am embarrassed by some of this on here if readers of this thread have had family or friends who have died or are seriously ill this would upset them greatly, think the mods should delete this asap. I presume most subjects will be taboo with you then......better not mention going for a beer because some readers may well have family or friends that have been seriously impacted by alcoholism!! |
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Post by axegas on Dec 15, 2020 18:59:59 GMT
Behave ffs. Go and have a wander round the ICUs in this country, speak to the actual doctors treating people every day and then tell us all that it’s nothing to worry about. And the issue isn’t just death, my mate’s wife beat covid months ago but she can’t get out of bed because the after effects are continuing to rob her of her energy some 9 months later. Imagine the bill the country would face for long covid care if we just allowed it to run through the population? Seriously, you “it’s just a cold” people need to give your heads a serious wobble. I didn’t say any of that did I? This really is continued evidence people just love a good virtue signal. People were giving thoughts and prayers to our early 20s players for goodness sake. The chances of them dying is minimal. Almost impossible. Or maybe people just had the decency to wish the staff and players well after contracting the virus and having to isolate for 14 days? Regardless of whether they get severe symptoms or not it’s hardly a pleasant experience. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 15, 2020 19:14:20 GMT
Behave ffs. Go and have a wander round the ICUs in this country, speak to the actual doctors treating people every day and then tell us all that it’s nothing to worry about. And the issue isn’t just death, my mate’s wife beat covid months ago but she can’t get out of bed because the after effects are continuing to rob her of her energy some 9 months later. Imagine the bill the country would face for long covid care if we just allowed it to run through the population? Seriously, you “it’s just a cold” people need to give your heads a serious wobble. Suggest you start having a word with donut loving brigade then, because obesity causes more deaths and is a far greater strain on the NHS than COVID ever will be Showing yourself up for the clueless fool you are . Your “facts” are wrong . I won’t be replying to you again . |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 15, 2020 19:14:29 GMT
I am embarrassed by some of this on here if readers of this thread have had family or friends who have died or are seriously ill this would upset them greatly, think the mods should delete this asap. I presume most subjects will be taboo with you then......better not mention going for a beer because some readers may well have family or friends that have been seriously impacted by alcoholism!! I think you're misunderstanding the point. No one is saying don't talk about it. They're saying be careful what you say. To correct your analogy, it wouldn't be not mentioning alcohol, it would be more like 'saying that alcohol is harmless would upset those whose relatives have died from alcoholism,' which is plainly a reasonable statement. |
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Post by tinner on Dec 15, 2020 19:30:40 GMT
I presume most subjects will be taboo with you then......better not mention going for a beer because some readers may well have family or friends that have been seriously impacted by alcoholism!! I think you're misunderstanding the point. No one is saying don't talk about it. They're saying be careful what you say. To correct your analogy, it wouldn't be not mentioning alcohol, it would be more like 'saying that alcohol is harmless would upset those whose relatives have died from alcoholism,' which is plainly a reasonable statement. But nobody said it was harmless, merely the chances of dieing are tiny which is correct.......or do we all have stick by the same narrative ? |
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