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Post by gashead99 on Mar 7, 2021 9:16:50 GMT
Bit worrying that we are on the third manager now to be unable to get a tune out of this squad. Which suggests the squad are just not up to the job. Mr 1.38ppg must shoulder the majority of the blame since he put them together after watching way too many Barcelona games. Whatever happens we will have Mr Barton here next season (barring custody or his resignation, of course). Let's hope he's ready for the challenge. I'm beginning to think we are going down. Too many others around us now starting to pick up points. Interestingly, and not defending what has gone before, 1.38 ppg would have us in a far more comfortable position than we are now - 14 points more comfortable.
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Post by Blackbeard on Mar 7, 2021 9:21:31 GMT
JB presser is spot on
Basic basic schoolboy errors, the players are generally good enough but we fall asleep in the midst of a game we are more than equal in and give ourselves mountains to climb
Leahy has too much to do with his willingness to bomb forward but yes, yesterday he should have hoofed it to row Z , but the ball still had a bit to do before it nestled the net and Williams and Day are also culpable
And there’s the other issue
We don’t have the tools to climb the mountain in Hanlon IMO
Soon as Ayunga came on the ball STUCK TO HIM
and that is absolutely pivotal in his position
Then you have Daly available and whilst we are at it JB seems more than willing to blood youngsters even now and give opportunities to he likes of Zain Walker, why not bring Phillips in also and at least get him training with the squad , his chance needs to come because JB needs to see if we have a few more hammers to crack this nut, Hanlon ain’t the hammer we need
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Post by terry on Mar 7, 2021 9:37:24 GMT
my abiding memory from yesterdays game was when 2 of their players decided they should have a free kick on the corner of our penalty area , told the referee and he and the linesman gave it to them . Whatever happened to " Get on with it".
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Post by carlts2020 on Mar 7, 2021 10:04:36 GMT
Bit worrying that we are on the third manager now to be unable to get a tune out of this squad. Which suggests the squad are just not up to the job. Mr 1.38ppg must shoulder the majority of the blame since he put them together after watching way too many Barcelona games. Whatever happens we will have Mr Barton here next season (barring custody or his resignation, of course). Let's hope he's ready for the challenge. I'm beginning to think we are going down. Too many others around us now starting to pick up points. Interestingly, and not defending what has gone before, 1.38 ppg would have us in a far more comfortable position than we are now - 14 points more comfortable. It is ridiculous that people still blame Garner for our position in the league. Changing the manager, unless you are rock bottom or in free fall which we were neither only causes issues. The players would have been drilled for 3 months to play a certain way and do certain things, you change it and this then turns it all on its head with a different voice and methods, to do it a third time just causes mayhem. These guys are professional footballers not robots! Rovers with Garner this season in the league: Played 11 W 3 D 3 L5 Points 12 PPG 1.09 Rovers without Garner this season in the league: Played 21 W 5 D 3 L13 Points 18 PPG 0.85 Add to the fact Garners results include 5 games against the top 5 it is night and day as to the performance, results, points gained etc. Sacking Garner has potentially relegated us. No matter what you think of him last season, his interviews etc etc that cannot be denied.
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Post by garythegas on Mar 7, 2021 10:09:04 GMT
Big Big week coming up for us,I reckon anything less than 4 points from these 2 home matches and we are doomed,6 points and we give ourselves a fighting chance of staying up.If we are not fired up for the Accrington game on tuesday we may as well throw in the towel now.I have a feeling that JB will change it a bit for Stanley,lets hope so.
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Post by orgasmic on Mar 7, 2021 10:11:30 GMT
Interestingly, and not defending what has gone before, 1.38 ppg would have us in a far more comfortable position than we are now - 14 points more comfortable. It is ridiculous that people still blame Garner for our position in the league. Changing the manager, unless you are rock bottom or in free fall which we were neither only causes issues. The players would have been drilled for 3 months to play a certain way and do certain things, you change it and this then turns it all on its head with a different voice and methods, to do it a third time just causes mayhem. These guys are professional footballers not robots! Rovers with Garner this season in the league: Played 11 W 3 D 3 L5 Points 12 PPG 1.09 Rovers without Garner this season in the league: Played 21 W 5 D 3 L13 Points 18 PPG 0.85 Add to the fact Garners results include 5 games against the top 5 it is night and day as to the performance, results, points gained etc. Sacking Garner has potentially relegated us. No matter what you think of him last season, his interviews etc etc that cannot be denied. Sorry to rain on your parade but it can be denied. Look at this... I don't think the sacking of Garner has potentially relegated us. There you go, I've denied it.
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 7, 2021 10:18:43 GMT
Big Big week coming up for us,I reckon anything less than 4 points from these 2 home matches and we are doomed,6 points and we give ourselves a fighting chance of staying up.If we are not fired up for the Accrington game on tuesday we may as well throw in the towel now.I have a feeling that JB will change it a bit for Stanley,lets hope so. Dont think he has any choice but to change personnel, we make 1/2 mistakes a game and it always costs us a goal.I hate watching as its like a horror film you know there's something nasty about to happen and it inevitably does.
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Post by Raj Gas on Mar 7, 2021 10:21:02 GMT
my abiding memory from yesterdays game was when 2 of their players decided they should have a free kick on the corner of our penalty area , told the referee and he and the linesman gave it to them . Whatever happened to " Get on with it". Agree Terry, what I noticed was that the ref actually booked their player for blocking off the free kick, it was getting so obvious. On free kicks we really miss Oz, he is very "streetwise" about free kicks and stops them being taken quickly I love the way he has a chat with the ref and always slows things down. It doesn't necessarily stop the goals going in but at least he is aware of the situation, the rest of the team just wander off and is part of the lack of any leadership throughout the team.
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Post by horfield on Mar 7, 2021 10:25:51 GMT
After 4 games and just 3 points Barton has to make changes, but are those on the side lines any better, I'm not sure they are, so instead of healing the wound he could be making it bigger. Never seen a Rovers team with so little pace in the side, it says an awful lot about the 2020 recruitment programme.
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Post by yattongas on Mar 7, 2021 10:28:37 GMT
Big Big week coming up for us,I reckon anything less than 4 points from these 2 home matches and we are doomed,6 points and we give ourselves a fighting chance of staying up.If we are not fired up for the Accrington game on tuesday we may as well throw in the towel now.I have a feeling that JB will change it a bit for Stanley,lets hope so. Dont think he has any choice but to change personnel, we make 1/2 mistakes a game and it always costs us a goal.I hate watching as its like a horror film you know there's something nasty about to happen and it inevitably does. A quick look at sofa score statistics, Hull 2 shots on target = 2 goals Burton 5 shots on target = 2 goals Wigan 3 shots on target = 2 goals Gillingham 3 shots on target = 2 goals
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 7, 2021 10:31:14 GMT
Interestingly, and not defending what has gone before, 1.38 ppg would have us in a far more comfortable position than we are now - 14 points more comfortable. It is ridiculous that people still blame Garner for our position in the league. Changing the manager, unless you are rock bottom or in free fall which we were neither only causes issues. The players would have been drilled for 3 months to play a certain way and do certain things, you change it and this then turns it all on its head with a different voice and methods, to do it a third time just causes mayhem. These guys are professional footballers not robots! Rovers with Garner this season in the league: Played 11 W 3 D 3 L5 Points 12 PPG 1.09 Rovers without Garner this season in the league: Played 21 W 5 D 3 L13 Points 18 PPG 0.85 Add to the fact Garners results include 5 games against the top 5 it is night and day as to the performance, results, points gained etc. Sacking Garner has potentially relegated us. No matter what you think of him last season, his interviews etc etc that cannot be denied. Any poster not personally connected in some way to Garner can see employing the utterly useless clown has led to our potential relegation, if Garner, Tisdale and Barton can get this group of players to cut out the stupid mistakes/score goals then the issue is clearly down to the players we signed last summer plus players like Craig we let go. Garner signed 3 LB's but mistake prone Leahy was still, until yesterday, the best of them. Harries being a complete waste of a contract.
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Post by gregsy on Mar 7, 2021 10:32:11 GMT
Dont think he has any choice but to change personnel, we make 1/2 mistakes a game and it always costs us a goal.I hate watching as its like a horror film you know there's something nasty about to happen and it inevitably does. A quick look at sofa score statistics, Hull 2 shots on target = 2 goals Burton 5 shots on target = 2 goals Wigan 3 shots on target = 2 goals Gillingham 3 shots on target = 2 goals You do realise that goals aren't counted as shots on target in match stats.... They're counted as goals....
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 7, 2021 10:38:06 GMT
After 4 games and just 3 points Barton has to make changes, but are those on the side lines any better, I'm not sure they are, so instead of healing the wound he could be making it bigger. Never seen a Rovers team with so little pace in the side, it says an awful lot about the 2020 recruitment programme. But that wasn't apparently down to Garner!
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Post by yattongas on Mar 7, 2021 10:39:27 GMT
A quick look at sofa score statistics, Hull 2 shots on target = 2 goals Burton 5 shots on target = 2 goals Wigan 3 shots on target = 2 goals Gillingham 3 shots on target = 2 goals You do realise that goals aren't counted as shots on target in match stats.... They're counted as goals.... No ! Lol 😂
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 7, 2021 10:41:31 GMT
"It is ridiculous that people still blame Garner for our position in the league"
Yayyy! A rehash of the WUM debate!
As the vast majority of the unbalanced squad are signed/played under/contact extended by BG, it's his fault we are where we are and he's put us back years from where we were when he took over.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 7, 2021 10:46:38 GMT
A quick look at sofa score statistics, Hull 2 shots on target = 2 goals Burton 5 shots on target = 2 goals Wigan 3 shots on target = 2 goals Gillingham 3 shots on target = 2 goals You do realise that goals aren't counted as shots on target in match stats.... They're counted as goals.... Nonsense, I've never seen a team have 0 shots and 2 goals? Unless they had 2 pens.
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Post by pirate on Mar 7, 2021 10:48:53 GMT
A quick look at sofa score statistics, Hull 2 shots on target = 2 goals Burton 5 shots on target = 2 goals Wigan 3 shots on target = 2 goals Gillingham 3 shots on target = 2 goals You do realise that goals aren't counted as shots on target in match stats.... They're counted as goals.... Goals ARE counted as shots on target.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 10:53:01 GMT
You do realise that goals aren't counted as shots on target in match stats.... They're counted as goals.... Nonsense, I've never seen a team have 0 shots and 2 goals? Unless they had 2 pens. 2 own goals don’t count as shots on target
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Post by Rod1883 on Mar 7, 2021 10:53:07 GMT
You do realise that goals aren't counted as shots on target in match stats.... They're counted as goals.... Goals ARE counted as shots on target. ...unless it's an own goal.....
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Post by gregsy on Mar 7, 2021 10:57:34 GMT
Oh, my bad....
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