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Post by pirate on Mar 7, 2021 11:00:42 GMT
Oh, my bad.... We all make mistakes, apart from Topper of course.
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Post by yattongas on Mar 7, 2021 11:11:49 GMT
Oh, my bad.... I’m confused now ..... do shots on target count as goals or not ? I always thought they did 🤷♂️
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Post by pirate on Mar 7, 2021 11:14:50 GMT
Oh, my bad.... I’m confused now ..... do shots on target count as goals or not ? I always thought they did 🤷♂️ They do.
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Post by Rod1883 on Mar 7, 2021 11:23:48 GMT
Oh, my bad.... I’m confused now ..... do shots on target count as goals or not ? I always thought they did 🤷♂️ Only if they go in....
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Post by Rod1883 on Mar 7, 2021 11:25:51 GMT
Apologies if posted before, but the BBC report sums up our ineffective and naïve team...
Hull City moved top of League One with a professional victory at home against struggling Bristol Rovers.
The visitors - now in the relegation zone - never laid a glove on in-form City, who eased to a third win on the bounce with two goals from Gavin Whyte. Rovers left-back Cian Harries was culpable for Whyte's opening goal after 32 minutes when he tried to see out the ball for a goal-kick on the right touchline. Mallik Wilks refused to give up the cause and craftily gained possession before crossing centrally towards Whyte. The on-loan Cardiff winger's volley was hardly pleasing on the eye but it was precise enough to find the bottom right-hand corner. The well-organised Tigers bossed the game thereafter and claimed a deserved second on the hour when three Rovers players were unnecessarily lured towards Wilks from a long ball. George Honeyman cashed in on the defensive mix-up and selflessly teed up Whyte to stab home from just outside the six-yard box.
I said it yesterday - JB needs to reverse his decision on Ledley and get some experience in there
Edit - I thought it was Leahy that was at fault for the first goal, but otherwise the report sums us up
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Post by alanrg on Mar 7, 2021 11:33:17 GMT
Noticed we have scored 30 goals this season the same as Northampton the worst in the division I just don’t c us staying up I hope I am wrong
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Post by landrover on Mar 7, 2021 11:51:54 GMT
Interestingly, and not defending what has gone before, 1.38 ppg would have us in a far more comfortable position than we are now - 14 points more comfortable. It is ridiculous that people still blame Garner for our position in the league. Changing the manager, unless you are rock bottom or in free fall which we were neither only causes issues. The players would have been drilled for 3 months to play a certain way and do certain things, you change it and this then turns it all on its head with a different voice and methods, to do it a third time just causes mayhem. These guys are professional footballers not robots! Rovers with Garner this season in the league: Played 11 W 3 D 3 L5 Points 12 PPG 1.09 Rovers without Garner this season in the league: Played 21 W 5 D 3 L13 Points 18 PPG 0.85 Add to the fact Garners results include 5 games against the top 5 it is night and day as to the performance, results, points gained etc. Sacking Garner has potentially relegated us. No matter what you think of him last season, his interviews etc etc that cannot be denied. You clearly think Garner was the answer and yet you quote an average points per game as 1.09! This would equate to 50 points over a season. More often than not this is relegation form although all seasons are different. As you always want the last word, why are you so content with this amount?
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Mar 7, 2021 11:59:02 GMT
Noticed we have scored 30 goals this season the same as Northampton the worst in the division I just don’t c us staying up I hope I am wrong Can’t score and giving away at least one sloppy goal in most games... Not a recipe for success!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 12:22:06 GMT
I hope Big Jock is back for Tuesday's game.
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Post by alanrg on Mar 7, 2021 12:28:29 GMT
Only 1 goal scored in the last 7 away matches that must be some sort of record absolutely pathetic
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Post by brfc on Mar 7, 2021 12:41:40 GMT
I saw in the paper today that Millwall after Macca i hope not.
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Post by carlts2020 on Mar 7, 2021 12:52:23 GMT
It is ridiculous that people still blame Garner for our position in the league. Changing the manager, unless you are rock bottom or in free fall which we were neither only causes issues. The players would have been drilled for 3 months to play a certain way and do certain things, you change it and this then turns it all on its head with a different voice and methods, to do it a third time just causes mayhem. These guys are professional footballers not robots! Rovers with Garner this season in the league: Played 11 W 3 D 3 L5 Points 12 PPG 1.09 Rovers without Garner this season in the league: Played 21 W 5 D 3 L13 Points 18 PPG 0.85 Add to the fact Garners results include 5 games against the top 5 it is night and day as to the performance, results, points gained etc. Sacking Garner has potentially relegated us. No matter what you think of him last season, his interviews etc etc that cannot be denied. You clearly think Garner was the answer and yet you quote an average points per game as 1.09! This would equate to 50 points over a season. More often than not this is relegation form although all seasons are different. As you always want the last word, why are you so content with this amount? Thanks Alan Drove. 1. 50 points will keep you up this year. 2. If you read my post properly you will see we had 1.09 despite nearly half the games we played being against the top 5. This is an unbelievably difficult set of fixtures for the first 11 games. 3. We were unbeaten against the teams around us below 10th. 4. The next league games Garner would have faced were Swindon and Wigan. On current form at that time we would have expected 4-6 points. We got 1 point. 5. These aren’t stats of a seasoned manager like Tisdale or Barton. These were garners 14th to 25th league games managed ever in his career. So to sum up considering we had a young manager and young players with a ridiculously difficult start we were not in danger of relegation and very likely to improve as the fixtures levelled out. Nearly double the amount of games later and we have less wins, less draws and less points per game.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 7, 2021 13:23:10 GMT
On current form? We had just got 1 point in the last 4 games. On that basis we’d have lost anyway.
Apparently having an entire summer to build a squad to how he wants and only getting 50 points is acceptable.
How many more statistics will you continue to bend? Funny how you seem to also pipe up more often after a loss.
Appointing Garner in the first place was the worst decision I have ever seen this football club make.
He is the worst manager of the club since the 1980s with a 20% win ration. That is a fact.
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Post by bluebiro on Mar 7, 2021 13:40:47 GMT
It is ridiculous that people still blame Garner for our position in the league. Changing the manager, unless you are rock bottom or in free fall which we were neither only causes issues. The players would have been drilled for 3 months to play a certain way and do certain things, you change it and this then turns it all on its head with a different voice and methods, to do it a third time just causes mayhem. These guys are professional footballers not robots! Rovers with Garner this season in the league: Played 11 W 3 D 3 L5 Points 12 PPG 1.09 Rovers without Garner this season in the league: Played 21 W 5 D 3 L13 Points 18 PPG 0.85 Add to the fact Garners results include 5 games against the top 5 it is night and day as to the performance, results, points gained etc. Sacking Garner has potentially relegated us. No matter what you think of him last season, his interviews etc etc that cannot be denied. You clearly think Garner was the answer and yet you quote an average points per game as 1.09! This would equate to 50 points over a season. More often than not this is relegation form although all seasons are different. As you always want the last word, why are you so content with this amount? with those stats. No wonder garner keeps turning down all these managerial jobs he is favourite for and is waiting for the call from the big 4.why did we let this genius slip through
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Post by landrover on Mar 7, 2021 13:44:44 GMT
You clearly think Garner was the answer and yet you quote an average points per game as 1.09! This would equate to 50 points over a season. More often than not this is relegation form although all seasons are different. As you always want the last word, why are you so content with this amount? Thanks Alan Drove. 1. 50 points will keep you up this year. 2. If you read my post properly you will see we had 1.09 despite nearly half the games we played being against the top 5. This is an unbelievably difficult set of fixtures for the first 11 games. 3. We were unbeaten against the teams around us below 10th. 4. The next league games Garner would have faced were Swindon and Wigan. On current form at that time we would have expected 4-6 points. We got 1 point. 5. These aren’t stats of a seasoned manager like Tisdale or Barton. These were garners 14th to 25th league games managed ever in his career. So to sum up considering we had a young manager and young players with a ridiculously difficult start we were not in danger of relegation and very likely to improve as the fixtures levelled out. Nearly double the amount of games later and we have less wins, less draws and less points per game. Who is Alan Drove? You don’t know that 50 points will be enough. It sometimes isn’t. You quote how we had harder matches even though it’s averaged or don’t you understand what averages mean. Why would we expect 4-6 points, based on what? He wasn’t that young as Mourinho and Wenger were managing top teams at 35. He was the one that signed young players yet you use it as an excuse. The bottom line is that he had the authority of a limp lettuce and is still the worst appointment I can recall. We went backwards, don’t kid yourself.
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Post by bluebiro on Mar 7, 2021 13:49:09 GMT
You clearly think Garner was the answer and yet you quote an average points per game as 1.09! This would equate to 50 points over a season. More often than not this is relegation form although all seasons are different. As you always want the last word, why are you so content with this amount? Thanks Alan Drove. 1. 50 points will keep you up this year. 2. If you read my post properly you will see we had 1.09 despite nearly half the games we played being against the top 5. This is an unbelievably difficult set of fixtures for the first 11 games. 3. We were unbeaten against the teams around us below 10th. 4. The next league games Garner would have faced were Swindon and Wigan. On current form at that time we would have expected 4-6 points. We got 1 point. 5. These aren’t stats of a seasoned manager like Tisdale or Barton. These were garners 14th to 25th league games managed ever in his career. So to sum up considering we had a young manager and young players with a ridiculously difficult start we were not in danger of relegation and very likely to improve as the fixtures levelled out. Nearly double the amount of games later and we have less wins, less draws and less points per game. chuck stats all you want but having that clown in charge has pushed this club back at least 5 years if relegation happens.
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Post by carlts2020 on Mar 7, 2021 14:03:39 GMT
On current form? We had just got 1 point in the last 4 games. On that basis we’d have lost anyway. Apparently having an entire summer to build a squad to how he wants and only getting 50 points is acceptable. How many more statistics will you continue to bend? Funny how you seem to also pipe up more often after a loss. Appointing Garner in the first place was the worst decision I have ever seen this football club make. He is the worst manager of the club since the 1980s with a 20% win ration. That is a fact. Of course it is if the remit is to lower the age significantly, get rid of older high earning players and build a squad of young players with resale value the 50 points plus in the first season after that rebuild is absolutely acceptable. A young manager and young players will only improve from there. I “pipe up” whenever I like. Win or lose. I find it therapeutic schooling the foolish.
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Post by carlts2020 on Mar 7, 2021 14:04:40 GMT
Thanks Alan Drove. 1. 50 points will keep you up this year. 2. If you read my post properly you will see we had 1.09 despite nearly half the games we played being against the top 5. This is an unbelievably difficult set of fixtures for the first 11 games. 3. We were unbeaten against the teams around us below 10th. 4. The next league games Garner would have faced were Swindon and Wigan. On current form at that time we would have expected 4-6 points. We got 1 point. 5. These aren’t stats of a seasoned manager like Tisdale or Barton. These were garners 14th to 25th league games managed ever in his career. So to sum up considering we had a young manager and young players with a ridiculously difficult start we were not in danger of relegation and very likely to improve as the fixtures levelled out. Nearly double the amount of games later and we have less wins, less draws and less points per game. chuck stats all you want but having that clown in charge has pushed this club back at least 5 years if relegation happens. That clown has a championship play off winners medal as a first team coach and a UEFA pro license. What have you done?
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Post by carlts2020 on Mar 7, 2021 14:06:42 GMT
Thanks Alan Drove. 1. 50 points will keep you up this year. 2. If you read my post properly you will see we had 1.09 despite nearly half the games we played being against the top 5. This is an unbelievably difficult set of fixtures for the first 11 games. 3. We were unbeaten against the teams around us below 10th. 4. The next league games Garner would have faced were Swindon and Wigan. On current form at that time we would have expected 4-6 points. We got 1 point. 5. These aren’t stats of a seasoned manager like Tisdale or Barton. These were garners 14th to 25th league games managed ever in his career. So to sum up considering we had a young manager and young players with a ridiculously difficult start we were not in danger of relegation and very likely to improve as the fixtures levelled out. Nearly double the amount of games later and we have less wins, less draws and less points per game. Who is Alan Drove? You don’t know that 50 points will be enough. It sometimes isn’t. You quote how we had harder matches even though it’s averaged or don’t you understand what averages mean. Why would we expect 4-6 points, based on what? He wasn’t that young as Mourinho and Wenger were managing top teams at 35. He was the one that signed young players yet you use it as an excuse. The bottom line is that he had the authority of a limp lettuce and is still the worst appointment I can recall. We went backwards, don’t kid yourself. If you knew what average meant you would understand that the average is skewed by playing more of the higher teams than lower. It’s absolute basics. He wasn’t that young? He was 39 for gods sake. The only thing that has gone backwards is our results and points total since Garner was sacked. That is absolute 100% fact. Same players, same squad, same league, same year.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 7, 2021 14:13:09 GMT
On current form? We had just got 1 point in the last 4 games. On that basis we’d have lost anyway. Apparently having an entire summer to build a squad to how he wants and only getting 50 points is acceptable. How many more statistics will you continue to bend? Funny how you seem to also pipe up more often after a loss. Appointing Garner in the first place was the worst decision I have ever seen this football club make. He is the worst manager of the club since the 1980s with a 20% win ration. That is a fact. Of course it is if the remit is to lower the age significantly, get rid of older high earning players and build a squad of young players with resale value the 50 points plus in the first season after that rebuild is absolutely acceptable. A young manager and young players will only improve from there. I “pipe up” whenever I like. Win or lose. I find it therapeutic schooling the foolish. It’s a bit delusional to think you’re schooling everyone. You’re the only person who thinks so, so I’d like to point out that’s it’s the other way around. If 50 points (which can get you relegated) is enough then why was Garner sacked? You can sign young players all you want, but if you assemble an unbalanced squad and can’t manage them - then no matter how much you age, you won’t suddenly become a good manager. Many players and managers show potential and either don’t make it or get worse, you are aware? To just assume that they’ll get better because they age is not only naive but stupid. The funny thing is with Garner is that if he could actually show he knew how to manage a team in the first season then he’d probably have been given more time. But because he came in as the worst manager in our history, he was always fighting an uphill battle. What did you think of his tenure during the 19/20 season?
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