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Post by Gassy on Mar 16, 2021 21:58:40 GMT
Do you think Day was attempting to prevent a goalscoring opportunity, or trying to make the header? Because your first line suggests he meant to foul him... I'd need to see it again, but the ball looked like it had gone miles away from him - something referees also take into account usually. Personally I don't feel sorry for Day in the slightest, he's just simply not good enough. I feel sorry for us for having to pay his wages to make mistakes week in week out and come the end of the season he can go back to Cardiff or sign wherever without an issues, whilst we're potentially in L2. Day knew he was caught in no mans land and needed to at least make an attempt to put the attacker off, he also paused for a slight second and went in for the header late. I don’t think its anything cynical and to be honest I can’t blame him for attempting to challenge, just it was always going to be a foul in that scenario if he fails to make contact on the ball and takes out the player instead. There wasn’t too much wrong with his performance, it’s always frustrating when your keeper concedes 3 out of a total 4 shots on target but the first 2 are good strikes and the third is a bit flukey. He blows hot and cold as a player, one week he makes some decent stops and the next he is caught lacking. I would like to see the incidence again, from what I saw I thought it was a yellow but can see it why he gave a red in the moment. Problem for me with Day is that he doesn’t blow hot and cold, it’s like cold cold cold cold hot, cold cold cold hot. He is far too inconsistent for this level |
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Post by Gastafari on Mar 16, 2021 22:02:21 GMT
I'm not defending Day. All I'm saying is, that if that was Alfie Kilgour or Jack Baldwin making the same challenge, basically a 50/50 ball in the air, I don't think they would of been sent off. Might not have even been a foul but when it’s a keeper and he’s way out of his area and the forward gets to it first it’s hard to argue against a foul. And as he was the last man ( I think - I haven’t watched it back ) it’s probably a fair red card too. It’s a real sh**ter because I think Day has been decent for us overal , he made three very good saves in the game tonight and I think he’s a much better keeper so far for Rovers than JVS has been. If it’s JVS for three games now then I’m worried. That's pretty much my point. When it's a Goalkeeper making it, the punishment seems to be a lot more harsh. It's as if the Refs have this rule that because it's a Keeper it must be a Red. On the flip side, they seem to give Keepers Free Kicks for absolutely nothing when they attempt to come for Crosses or Corners as well. It just seems bizarre to me, how Keepers somehow have different rules to everybody else. I also think it's debatable whether it's denying a Goalscoring opportunity, it was about 30 yards out, its not as if it's a couple of yards from the Goal line. Keepers bring down the Attacker in the box and it's usually only a Yellow these days. Yet a challenge way outside the box is deemed a Red? Again, I find it strange. |
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Post by Windmill Hill Gas on Mar 16, 2021 22:03:03 GMT
Don't know the ins and outs but he only signed 2 players. I'm sure he would have signed more if given the choice. From the BP and notes I’ve heard anecdotally he put all his eggs in one basket and got no chickens. Which would be fine if we had a few Rory Gaffneys and Matt Harolds. Basically if we had a ginger striker we'd be fine |
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Post by Gassy on Mar 16, 2021 22:03:39 GMT
Do you think Day was attempting to prevent a goalscoring opportunity, or trying to make the header? Because your first line suggests he meant to foul him... I'd need to see it again, but the ball looked like it had gone miles away from him - something referees also take into account usually. Personally I don't feel sorry for Day in the slightest, he's just simply not good enough. I feel sorry for us for having to pay his wages to make mistakes week in week out and come the end of the season he can go back to Cardiff or sign wherever without an issues, whilst we're potentially in L2. Day knew he was caught in no mans land and needed to at least make an attempt to put the attacker off, he also paused for a slight second and went in for the header late. I don’t think its anything cynical and to be honest I can’t blame him for attempting to challenge, just it was always going to be a foul in that scenario if he fails to make contact on the ball and takes out the player instead. There wasn’t too much wrong with his performance, it’s always frustrating when your keeper concedes 3 out of a total 4 shots on target but the first 2 are good strikes and the third is a bit flukey. He blows hot and cold as a player, one week he makes some decent stops and the next he is caught lacking. Oh just to add to this as well - ultimately it makes no difference at all to the game. As soon as we start losing the game is done anyway. We were also gifted a point from the referee against Wimbledon after the stonewall penalty. Perhaps this could be a blessing in disguise, I’d rsther see JVS that Day in goal |
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Post by justin blue on Mar 16, 2021 22:07:22 GMT
Problem is we could all see we were going to concede hence Barton brought on Little and changed the formation, but for some reason whenever he does that we then concede a goal whilst the players are getting their heads around the changes. I just don't get what manager's see in Little as he always seems a yard or two off the pace to me. I think Little is a total waste of time , gets in the side - performs badly - gets injured - out for a while - repeat. Bit harsh the guy was only on the pitch for five minutes. |
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Post by alanrg on Mar 16, 2021 22:07:41 GMT
Regarding red cards professional foul one match ban violent conduct 3 match ban
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Post by garythegas on Mar 16, 2021 22:07:56 GMT
Just when I thought it could,nt get any worse a previous poster has suggested Day will be suspended for the next 3 games,JVS in goal is not going to help our already very fragile defence. I really have given up any hope of staying up this season its just one step forward followed by two back at the moment,we just can,t push on after we do get a positive result.
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Post by alanrg on Mar 16, 2021 22:11:44 GMT
Joe Day suspended for 1 match
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 16, 2021 22:12:56 GMT
Just when I thought it could,nt get any worse a previous poster has suggested Day will be suspended for the next 3 games,JVS in goal is not going to help our already very fragile defence. I really have given up any hope of staying up this season its just one step forward followed by two back at the moment,we just can,t push on after we do get a positive result. Pretty sure it was a red card for a professional foul, so just a 1 match ban, unless JB suggested otherwise in his post match interview? |
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Post by Gassy on Mar 16, 2021 22:13:10 GMT
Just when I thought it could,nt get any worse a previous poster has suggested Day will be suspended for the next 3 games,JVS in goal is not going to help our already very fragile defence. I really have given up any hope of staying up this season its just one step forward followed by two back at the moment,we just can,t push on after we do get a positive result. Can’t agree with that at all. When JVS came in we saw 3-0 win, 2-0 loss and a 2-1 win. Since Day it’s been LLLLDLLDLWLLWLLWDL |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 16, 2021 22:14:14 GMT
Day knew he was caught in no mans land and needed to at least make an attempt to put the attacker off, he also paused for a slight second and went in for the header late. I don’t think its anything cynical and to be honest I can’t blame him for attempting to challenge, just it was always going to be a foul in that scenario if he fails to make contact on the ball and takes out the player instead. There wasn’t too much wrong with his performance, it’s always frustrating when your keeper concedes 3 out of a total 4 shots on target but the first 2 are good strikes and the third is a bit flukey. He blows hot and cold as a player, one week he makes some decent stops and the next he is caught lacking. Oh just to add to this as well - ultimately it makes no difference at all to the game. As soon as we start losing the game is done anyway. We were also gifted a point from the referee against Wimbledon after the stonewall penalty. Perhaps this could be a blessing in disguise, I’d rsther see JVS that Day in goal You must be one of the few who'd sooner see JVS in goal! |
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Post by Blackbeard on Mar 16, 2021 22:18:49 GMT
I would give my w@nking arm right now to have Tony Craig on the pitch
I could cheerfully throttle BG for cutting him loose
No way on this planet would he have let that precious three points drop
Barton must wonder what the actual F##k he has to do to lock a simple win down
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Post by Gassy on Mar 16, 2021 22:19:35 GMT
Oh just to add to this as well - ultimately it makes no difference at all to the game. As soon as we start losing the game is done anyway. We were also gifted a point from the referee against Wimbledon after the stonewall penalty. Perhaps this could be a blessing in disguise, I’d rsther see JVS that Day in goal You must be one of the few who'd sooner see JVS in goal! Maybe, but I reckon he gets an unfair amount of stick. He had great games against Plymouth and Blackpool and was unfairly dropped for a keeper who’s performed even worse. |
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Post by justin blue on Mar 16, 2021 22:21:10 GMT
Losing after leading by two goals is not dissapointing, it's bad game management. We should be able to close out a game from that position.
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Post by alanrg on Mar 16, 2021 22:21:43 GMT
Don’t rate either Day or JVS god do we ever miss Anssi
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 16, 2021 22:26:35 GMT
If I’d not watched the game and just saw the score with both sides having had four shots on target I’d have thought we’d given it a good go - especially since it’s one of the leagues worst teams going away to a side pushing for promotion with the best attacking options in the division. But having watched us deservedly go two up but go on to lose is very dispiriting. The ref was generally poor, gave them the benefit of the doubt on most 50/50 decisions but on the big decisions he was right. He gave us the penalty in the first half and he was spot on with Days red card. Two players attacking a 50/50 ball, they were bound to collide and whoever got the ball first was going to win the free kick. Unfortunately, Day was second and the ref had no choice but to send him off as the striker would have been through on goal with nobody to beat. Hopefully just a one match ban? He’s made some important and brave saves recently and is far better and far more experienced than JVS. Beaten by two quality strikes and let down by his defence for the third. If he was poorly positioned for the free kick then every keeper in professional football around the world is wrong too. I don’t think we sat back second half. Both in regard to league position and quality of players Charlton would be expected to dominate. We gave them a right scare first half and they were always going to up their game, it was more their doing than ours that we ended up so deep and penned in second half. Just a shame we couldn’t hold out for a point and the usual stupid defensive mistake, this time by Kilgour, has cost us. Still hopeful of staying up though. UTG. That’s pretty much how I saw it. I do think that if we’d had a bit more experience and a bit more fight we’d have come away with at least a point though ? We’re a soft team that is nervous without the ball and the only fighter we’ve got is a young kid on loan from Chelsea who’s been brilliant in his application and determination whether he’s having a good game or not. That just goes to show how Badly we’re lacking leadership in the core of our team. |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 16, 2021 22:27:21 GMT
If I’d not watched the game and just saw the score with both sides having had four shots on target I’d have thought we’d given it a good go - especially since it’s one of the leagues worst teams going away to a side pushing for promotion with the best attacking options in the division. But having watched us deservedly go two up but go on to lose is very dispiriting. The ref was generally poor, gave them the benefit of the doubt on most 50/50 decisions but on the big decisions he was right. He gave us the penalty in the first half and he was spot on with Days red card. Two players attacking a 50/50 ball, they were bound to collide and whoever got the ball first was going to win the free kick. Unfortunately, Day was second and the ref had no choice but to send him off as the striker would have been through on goal with nobody to beat. Hopefully just a one match ban? He’s made some important and brave saves recently and is far better and far more experienced than JVS. Beaten by two quality strikes and let down by his defence for the third. If he was poorly positioned for the free kick then every keeper in professional football around the world is wrong too. I don’t think we sat back second half. Both in regard to league position and quality of players Charlton would be expected to dominate. We gave them a right scare first half and they were always going to up their game, it was more their doing than ours that we ended up so deep and penned in second half. Just a shame we couldn’t hold out for a point and the usual stupid defensive mistake, this time by Kilgour, has cost us. Still hopeful of staying up though. UTG. That’s pretty much how I saw it. I do think that if we’d had a bit more experience and a bit more fight we’d have come away with at least a point though ? We’re a soft team that is nervous without the ball and the only fighter we’ve got is a young kid on loan from Chelsea who’s been brilliant in his application and determination whether he’s having a good game or not. That just goes to show how Badly we’re lacking leadership in the core of our team. Oh to have tony Craig back !!! Utg |
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Post by barumgas on Mar 16, 2021 22:28:38 GMT
Let's put some positives on this: 1. We scored and looked threatening 2. Wigan and Wimbledon drew 3. Fleetwood beating Ipswich and Swindon play them on sat 4. The others in the zone also have tough games 5. WE STILL AREN'T IN THE ZONE 😊 Whilst we are on positives, we are defending corners better now |
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Post by justin blue on Mar 16, 2021 22:29:12 GMT
Losing after leading by two goals is not dissapointing, it's bad game management. We should be able to close out a game from that position.
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Post by kampucheagas on Mar 16, 2021 22:35:58 GMT
Just when I thought it could,nt get any worse a previous poster has suggested Day will be suspended for the next 3 games,JVS in goal is not going to help our already very fragile defence. I really have given up any hope of staying up this season its just one step forward followed by two back at the moment,we just can,t push on after we do get a positive result. Can’t agree with that at all. When JVS came in we saw 3-0 win, 2-0 loss and a 2-1 win. Since Day it’s been LLLLDLLDLWLLWLLWDL Christ that really does remind me how many miserable Saturday and Tuesdays I’ve had over the last 3 months. The only miracle is how we are still above the dotted line. I was thinking earlier, could this seasons strikeforce be the lowest total goals between them ever? How many have they got? 15? Maybe less. |
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