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Post by scottleroc on Mar 22, 2021 18:02:44 GMT
It was pretty brutal assessment but I can’t disagree with anything said. I think there is clearly something JB is seeing at training and it must be attitude related to be called out in such fashion. Like others I can’t see any way back for Ehmer but I think we have him a very good contract so will be difficult to shift on.
I agree that we’ve had a couple of ‘nice’ managers and that certainly hasn’t resulted in a fighting spirit so let’s see how this lands with the squad. They might agree with JB now!
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Post by bluebiro on Mar 22, 2021 18:03:59 GMT
TIME TO MAN-UP I’m with JB on his man-management style. It’s time to man up and get on with the job, No time for frail egos. All this pussy footing around and fannying around has got us nowhere in the last year. Let’s see a bit of courage and tenacity in our team. There are 30 points to play for so let’s get behind the players who are up for it. Let’s slaughter Swindon and get safe ASAP!! Here’s a thought. I think Ollie Clarke would have really flourished under JB to be honest. Clearly Garner wasn’t the right manager for him. UTG. Yeah Barton would have liked Craig, Olly, Sinclair etc the type of players that although have limited technical ability always put in a shift and will get you over the line. Coughlan was the same and DC before him. Unfortunately the man most responsible for our demise is a kid, a coach , not a manager , never should have got the job and never should have kept it as long as he did. and now one is coaching u23 at a premier league club while wonder kid is sat at home wondering if the phone is working
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 22, 2021 18:08:50 GMT
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Post by carlts2020 on Mar 22, 2021 18:09:29 GMT
Yeah Barton would have liked Craig, Olly, Sinclair etc the type of players that although have limited technical ability always put in a shift and will get you over the line. Coughlan was the same and DC before him. Unfortunately the man most responsible for our demise is a kid, a coach , not a manager , never should have got the job and never should have kept it as long as he did. and now one is coaching u23 at a premier league club while wonder kid is sat at home wondering if the phone is working I bet bother are better jobs than what you are doing you loser.
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Post by carlts2020 on Mar 22, 2021 18:10:46 GMT
It was pretty brutal assessment but I can’t disagree with anything said. I think there is clearly something JB is seeing at training and it must be attitude related to be called out in such fashion. Like others I can’t see any way back for Ehmer but I think we have him a very good contract so will be difficult to shift on. I agree that we’ve had a couple of ‘nice’ managers and that certainly hasn’t resulted in a fighting spirit so let’s see how this lands with the squad. They might agree with JB now! It’s disgusting and disgraceful to pull someone to pieces like that in the media. It is unprofessional and totally embarrassing. Any conversations of this sort should be kept in house and private.
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Post by landrover on Mar 22, 2021 18:18:45 GMT
and now one is coaching u23 at a premier league club while wonder kid is sat at home wondering if the phone is working I bet bother are better jobs than what you are doing you loser. Thank you Carlts for confirming you’re closer to Garner than you let on.
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Post by carlts2020 on Mar 22, 2021 18:31:18 GMT
I bet bother are better jobs than what you are doing you loser. Thank you Carlts for confirming you’re closer to Garner than you let on. Thank you land rover for proving that you are so obsessed with garner you can’t post anything remotely worthy of reading.
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Post by landrover on Mar 22, 2021 18:35:29 GMT
Thank you Carlts for confirming you’re closer to Garner than you let on. Thank you land rover for proving that you are so obsessed with garner you can’t post anything remotely worthy of reading. it’s nothing Carlts. Please say a thank you to Ben for making me feel a font of knowledge these last two years.
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Post by carlts2020 on Mar 22, 2021 18:38:14 GMT
Thank you land rover for proving that you are so obsessed with garner you can’t post anything remotely worthy of reading. it’s nothing Carlts. Please say a thank you to Ben for making me feel a font of knowledge these last two years. Ben says thank you for making sure the shelves are always stacked at Co-Op
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Post by axegas on Mar 22, 2021 18:40:19 GMT
Thank you Carlts for confirming you’re closer to Garner than you let on. Thank you land rover for proving that you are so obsessed with garner you can’t post anything remotely worthy of reading. Dude, there aren’t many of your 400 odd posts that haven’t been defending Garner. I don’t think you’re in any position to accuse others about being obsessed.
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Post by carlts2020 on Mar 22, 2021 18:42:26 GMT
Thank you land rover for proving that you are so obsessed with garner you can’t post anything remotely worthy of reading. Dude, there aren’t many of your 400 odd posts that haven’t been defending Garner. I don’t think you’re in any position to accuse others about being obsessed. Dude, I can say what I like. It’s a forum. I am open about my praise for garner, I back it up with facts and stats. Disagreeing with me is absolutely fine, I enjoy it. Replying with nonsense and wise cracks is for idiots and I will always call it out.
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Post by landrover on Mar 22, 2021 18:42:49 GMT
it’s nothing Carlts. Please say a thank you to Ben for making me feel a font of knowledge these last two years. Ben says thank you for making sure the shelves are always stacked at Co-Op funnily enough my next shift starts soon. Tell Ben to call in. I promise to put a good word in for him to the boss.
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Post by axegas on Mar 22, 2021 18:53:55 GMT
Dude, there aren’t many of your 400 odd posts that haven’t been defending Garner. I don’t think you’re in any position to accuse others about being obsessed. Dude, I can say what I like. It’s a forum. I am open about my praise for garner, I back it up with facts and stats. Disagreeing with me is absolutely fine, I enjoy it. Replying with nonsense and wise cracks is for idiots and I will always call it out. Sure go ahead say what you like don’t let me stop you, but if you resort to trying to belittle people who disagree with you, prepare to get called out about it. If your stats so comprehensively defend Garner, you don’t need to call people who think otherwise obsessed or question their intelligence, do you?
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Post by socrates on Mar 22, 2021 19:02:21 GMT
I saw more from Ehmer in the right back role than I’ve seen from Williams so far. Whilst he’s never struck me as captain material and he’s made a few mistakes recently, Ehmer’s never been a particularly bad player for us IMO. Not the player we thought we were getting but an about average L1 defender nevertheless. Just worry that this public dressing down of players by Barton is going to cause discontent in the changing room. Criticising is fine but singling out and humiliating doesn’t sit well with me. He’s slow , poor positioning , can’t direct a header to a Rovers shirt even unchallenged , and can’t pass the ball. Other than that he hasn’t been bad.
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Post by axegas on Mar 22, 2021 19:06:32 GMT
I saw more from Ehmer in the right back role than I’ve seen from Williams so far. Whilst he’s never struck me as captain material and he’s made a few mistakes recently, Ehmer’s never been a particularly bad player for us IMO. Not the player we thought we were getting but an about average L1 defender nevertheless. Just worry that this public dressing down of players by Barton is going to cause discontent in the changing room. Criticising is fine but singling out and humiliating doesn’t sit well with me. He’s slow , poor positioning , can’t direct a header to a Rovers shirt even unchallenged , and can’t pass the ball. Other than that he hasn’t been bad. Like I said he’s an average L1 centre back, if he was pacy and had brilliant positioning, he wouldn’t be with us, let’s be real. Think he’s a little bit better than what you give him credit for though. Honestly think he’s about level with Kilgour/Baldwin, though they both come with their flaws too. Need a big clear out in the CB department over the summer.
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Post by carlts2020 on Mar 22, 2021 19:07:55 GMT
Dude, I can say what I like. It’s a forum. I am open about my praise for garner, I back it up with facts and stats. Disagreeing with me is absolutely fine, I enjoy it. Replying with nonsense and wise cracks is for idiots and I will always call it out. Sure go ahead say what you like don’t let me stop you, but if you resort to trying to belittle people who disagree with you, prepare to get called out about it. If your stats so comprehensively defend Garner, you don’t need to call people who think otherwise obsessed or question their intelligence, do you? I think you’ll find it’s only ever in response. Treat people as they treat you. I’ll talk all day with someone with a fair, decent opinion that I don’t agree with and sometimes even change my mind. People responding with rude, offensive, bullying nonsense get zero respect.
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Post by socrates on Mar 22, 2021 19:18:59 GMT
He’s slow , poor positioning , can’t direct a header to a Rovers shirt even unchallenged , and can’t pass the ball. Other than that he hasn’t been bad. Like I said he’s an average L1 centre back, if he was pacy and had brilliant positioning, he wouldn’t be with us, let’s be real. Think he’s a little bit better than what you give him credit for though. Honestly think he’s about level with Kilgour/Baldwin, though they both come with their flaws too. Need a big clear out in the CB department over the summer. I think Kilgour has the potential to become a championship centre back if he’s paired with an experienced partner over the next couple of years. The rest I don’t rate as anything better than league 2 standard at best. I thought Davies was quality but unfortunately injuries have massively effected his time with us. Keep Kilgour and try and get the rest out ASAP and bring in an experienced leader to play alongside Alfie and a couple of quick defenders that turn quicker than the oil Tanker that Ehmer is.
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Post by carlts2020 on Mar 22, 2021 19:19:28 GMT
Quote by Axegas, July 2020:
“Fabulous signing, not often do Rovers sign one of the statistically highest rated players in their position in the division. We’re going to have a really solid defence next year with Jaakkola, Ehmer, Baldwin, Kilgour, Hare all back there, all that’s needed now are some attackers to give us some edge up front and we’re in for a good season.”
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Post by axegas on Mar 22, 2021 19:29:53 GMT
Quote by Axegas, July 2020: “Fabulous signing, not often do Rovers sign one of the statistically highest rated players in their position in the division. We’re going to have a really solid defence next year with Jaakkola, Ehmer, Baldwin, Kilgour, Hare all back there, all that’s needed now are some attackers to give us some edge up front and we’re in for a good season.” Aww bless, you scrawled through hundreds of my posts to dig up some dirt to catch me out. If over the course of 8,000 posts I’d called everything right, I’d be a freak of nature. I was wrong, just like everyone is on here from time to time. But damn that Ben Garner for making us think we had signed some decent players and were going to have a good season, hey?
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Post by carlts2020 on Mar 22, 2021 19:40:40 GMT
Dude, I can say what I like. It’s a forum. I am open about my praise for garner, I back it up with facts and stats. Disagreeing with me is absolutely fine, I enjoy it. Replying with nonsense and wise cracks is for idiots and I will always call it out. Sure go ahead say what you like don’t let me stop you, but if you resort to trying to belittle people who disagree with you, prepare to get called out about it. If your stats so comprehensively defend Garner, you don’t need to call people who think otherwise obsessed or question their intelligence, do you? Like i said. Engage with me fairly and politely and you get the same response. Slag people off, make stupid comments or belittle people and you get the same back. Coughlan, Garner, Ehmer, Ayunga, Westbrooke, Mesure, Grant etc etc etc I can go on, all have families, children and are trying their best for our club. These bitchy attacks of anyone need calling out and responding to.
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