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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2021 18:53:52 GMT
I think we all need to learn to stop being offended so easily. I'm sure it must get boring when nobody bites. They'll hopefully then sod off to Facebook instead.
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Post by Goose on Sept 15, 2021 20:35:54 GMT
I think we all need to learn to stop being offended so easily. I'm sure it must get boring when nobody bites. They'll hopefully then sod off to Facebook instead. I disagree, it shouldn't be a case of we say what we want and if someone gets upset then it's their fault. We don't know what anyone is going through in their lives outside of this forum and whilst I'm not saying we can't say boo to a goose, we just need to all be a bit more considerate with our comments. We can disagree and debate without the need to get personal |
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Post by LJG on Sept 15, 2021 20:44:40 GMT
I think we all need to learn to stop being offended so easily. I'm sure it must get boring when nobody bites. They'll hopefully then sod off to Facebook instead. I disagree, it shouldn't be a case of we say what we want and if someone gets upset then it's their fault. We don't know what anyone is going through in their lives outside of this forum and whilst I'm not saying we can't say boo to a goose, we just need to all be a bit more considerate with our comments. We can disagree and debate without the need to get personal Some take the disagreement and debate personally despite it not being personal. It is truly bizarre. |
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Post by oldie on Sept 15, 2021 21:50:28 GMT
I disagree, it shouldn't be a case of we say what we want and if someone gets upset then it's their fault. We don't know what anyone is going through in their lives outside of this forum and whilst I'm not saying we can't say boo to a goose, we just need to all be a bit more considerate with our comments. We can disagree and debate without the need to get personal Some take the disagreement and debate personally despite it not being personal. It is truly bizarre. It's pathetic. Are we amongst adults here? |
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Post by aghast on Sept 15, 2021 22:35:26 GMT
I do think this resignations thing is being a bit overplayed.
The old OF, Gas Guzzler and this one have always had lots of posters deciding to down tools. Often, but not always, returning after a while with the original or a new name.
You just have to look at something like the early days of the Fruit Market thread to see how many people have left in the last few years.
It is easy to get wound up by responses perceived to be hostile, and I know I used to, but a break of a few weeks normally calmed me down without quitting.
Nowadays I just post bland rubbish and try not to insult anyone.
Edit: I did insult Steve K recently and I'm sorry Steve. We're only human and try our best but sometimes fail.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Sept 15, 2021 22:36:32 GMT
Some people seem to pick and choose what offends them. I’m all for a bit of banter and ribbing, but because I think it’s ok, it doesn’t mean that everybody else does, so I try and be a bit more measured now
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Sept 15, 2021 22:40:04 GMT
I do think this resignations thing is being a bit overplayed. The old OF, Gas Guzzler and this one have always had lots of posters deciding to down tools. Often, but not always, returning after a while with the original or a new name. You just have to look at something like the early days of the Fruit Market thread to see how many people have left in the last few years. It is easy to get wound up by responses perceived to be hostile, and I know I used to, but a break of a few weeks normally calmed me down without quitting. Nowadays I just post bland rubbish and try not to insult anyone. I deleted my account because I didn’t want it to be too easy for me to get involved again - one click of the mouse, and you’re back in. I wanted it to be like not having chocolate in the fridge when you’re dieting - remove the temptation. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2021 22:43:15 GMT
Some take the disagreement and debate personally despite it not being personal. It is truly bizarre. It's pathetic. Are we amongst adults here? I would certainly hope we are amongst adults or at least people who can sensibly debate differing views sensibly and reasonably without resorting to unnecessary criticism and what could be perceived nasty comments… We have had differing views and we have in the main been able to discuss these ok. However, what may seem small or minor and not personal to us may not be the same to someone else and that has been the crux of the problem - just because something we write or say wouldn’t be something we’d personally take offence to, it doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone else and so all I can say is that before we do write or say something, maybe we should all take a moment and think how could or would someone else take it? I’m not directing this at you but at everyone on here as it is how the reader or recipient perceives it determines whether it’s personal or acceptable or not. We can’t know or judge everyone by what our own personal view or standards are on things like this. As someone has pointed out, we don’t know what people are going through, their experiences, their levels of acceptability etc… As a rule of thumb I do firmly believe in debate the post, not the person approach and in the main that should let us all be able to challenge reasonably. I try to understand why or what’s behind someone’s differing view to mine before I then post or respond….. hopefully that then allows constructive and respectful discussion |
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Post by gregsy on Sept 15, 2021 22:58:18 GMT
I do think this resignations thing is being a bit overplayed. The old OF, Gas Guzzler and this one have always had lots of posters deciding to down tools. Often, but not always, returning after a while with the original or a new name. You just have to look at something like the early days of the Fruit Market thread to see how many people have left in the last few years. It is easy to get wound up by responses perceived to be hostile, and I know I used to, but a break of a few weeks normally calmed me down without quitting. Nowadays I just post bland rubbish and try not to insult anyone. I deleted my account because I didn’t want it to be too easy for me to get involved again - one click of the mouse, and you’re back in. I wanted it to be like not having chocolate in the fridge when you’re dieting - remove the temptation. It is like an addiction as you say Tilly.... Very well worded may I add.... This place has become a bit depressing lately, but we'll turn it around..... One day.... |
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Post by oldie on Sept 16, 2021 3:27:19 GMT
It's pathetic. Are we amongst adults here? I would certainly hope we are amongst adults or at least people who can sensibly debate differing views sensibly and reasonably without resorting to unnecessary criticism and what could be perceived nasty comments… We have had differing views and we have in the main been able to discuss these ok. However, what may seem small or minor and not personal to us may not be the same to someone else and that has been the crux of the problem - just because something we write or say wouldn’t be something we’d personally take offence to, it doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone else and so all I can say is that before we do write or say something, maybe we should all take a moment and think how could or would someone else take it? I’m not directing this at you but at everyone on here as it is how the reader or recipient perceives it determines whether it’s personal or acceptable or not. We can’t know or judge everyone by what our own personal view or standards are on things like this. As someone has pointed out, we don’t know what people are going through, their experiences, their levels of acceptability etc… As a rule of thumb I do firmly believe in debate the post, not the person approach and in the main that should let us all be able to challenge reasonably. I try to understand why or what’s behind someone’s differing view to mine before I then post or respond….. hopefully that then allows constructive and respectful discussion So you would agree that calling someone a prick and then to tell them to swallow a bottle of aspirin tablets is not really appropriate? |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 16, 2021 4:13:50 GMT
I do think this resignations thing is being a bit overplayed. The old OF, Gas Guzzler and this one have always had lots of posters deciding to down tools. Often, but not always, returning after a while with the original or a new name. You just have to look at something like the early days of the Fruit Market thread to see how many people have left in the last few years. It is easy to get wound up by responses perceived to be hostile, and I know I used to, but a break of a few weeks normally calmed me down without quitting. Nowadays I just post bland rubbish and try not to insult anyone. I deleted my account because I didn’t want it to be too easy for me to get involved again - one click of the mouse, and you’re back in. I wanted it to be like not having chocolate in the fridge when you’re dieting - remove the temptation. Have some chicken feet in there instead... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 6:31:51 GMT
I would certainly hope we are amongst adults or at least people who can sensibly debate differing views sensibly and reasonably without resorting to unnecessary criticism and what could be perceived nasty comments… We have had differing views and we have in the main been able to discuss these ok. However, what may seem small or minor and not personal to us may not be the same to someone else and that has been the crux of the problem - just because something we write or say wouldn’t be something we’d personally take offence to, it doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone else and so all I can say is that before we do write or say something, maybe we should all take a moment and think how could or would someone else take it? I’m not directing this at you but at everyone on here as it is how the reader or recipient perceives it determines whether it’s personal or acceptable or not. We can’t know or judge everyone by what our own personal view or standards are on things like this. As someone has pointed out, we don’t know what people are going through, their experiences, their levels of acceptability etc… As a rule of thumb I do firmly believe in debate the post, not the person approach and in the main that should let us all be able to challenge reasonably. I try to understand why or what’s behind someone’s differing view to mine before I then post or respond….. hopefully that then allows constructive and respectful discussion So you would agree that calling someone a prick and then to tell them to swallow a bottle of aspirin tablets is not really appropriate? So would you agree that telling my good friend to take some aspirins and calling him dyslexic etc etc is appropriate? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 6:57:23 GMT
An eye for an eye will make us all blind.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 7:02:14 GMT
I would certainly hope we are amongst adults or at least people who can sensibly debate differing views sensibly and reasonably without resorting to unnecessary criticism and what could be perceived nasty comments… We have had differing views and we have in the main been able to discuss these ok. However, what may seem small or minor and not personal to us may not be the same to someone else and that has been the crux of the problem - just because something we write or say wouldn’t be something we’d personally take offence to, it doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone else and so all I can say is that before we do write or say something, maybe we should all take a moment and think how could or would someone else take it? I’m not directing this at you but at everyone on here as it is how the reader or recipient perceives it determines whether it’s personal or acceptable or not. We can’t know or judge everyone by what our own personal view or standards are on things like this. As someone has pointed out, we don’t know what people are going through, their experiences, their levels of acceptability etc… As a rule of thumb I do firmly believe in debate the post, not the person approach and in the main that should let us all be able to challenge reasonably. I try to understand why or what’s behind someone’s differing view to mine before I then post or respond….. hopefully that then allows constructive and respectful discussion So you would agree that calling someone a prick and then to tell them to swallow a bottle of aspirin tablets is not really appropriate? Yes I would say that that was not appropriate. Likewise I think things said to GHB was inappropriate and unnecessary as well…. I don’t want this to be a tit for tat taking sides debate but in my opinion things that were said from both parties was inappropriate and uncalled for…. 2 wrongs do not make a right…. |
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Post by oldie on Sept 16, 2021 7:03:30 GMT
So you would agree that calling someone a prick and then to tell them to swallow a bottle of aspirin tablets is not really appropriate? So would you agree that telling my good friend to take some aspirins and calling him dyslexic etc etc is appropriate? I was responding directly, suggesting taking an Aspirin, as in one, would make him feel better. Certainly not suggesting he should harm himself. Btw, that he is your good friend is hardly relevant. Plus, out of the blue, he decided to call me a prick on Saturday, during a series of interactions during the game, when a bit of humour and water taking was injected to lighten another turgid performance by the team. I really don't understand the anger that erupts over all this. I didn't feel any anger when he jumped off a topic and called me a prick, I laughed. I didn't get angry when he, childlike with a heavy dose of petulance, told me to swallow the whole bottle (of aspirin). I laughed, wondered (genuinely) how old he was. I wished the mods had not deleted his post, so it would remain for all to see, to judge the character. I certainly never complained, they did this once before when they locked a thread when he chose, troll like, to read all my posts on a topic during a defined period and listed the adjectives I had used. I thought it strange behaviour then, but I never complained. So it appears that your good friend has deleted his account because the mods saw fit to moderate his contribution (s), not because of anything I said. Which is all a bit strange for a fully mature adult. On calling him dyslexic. I don't recall directing that at him personally, but if you quote me where I did so the context can be seen, and if it was OTT and inappropriate then I will of course respond. But, even then (if I was out of order) why get upset about it? Unless he is, then of course it is entirely wrong to raise that disability (I use the term guardedly) in conversation. But all in all, it's all a bit daft isn't it? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 7:04:37 GMT
So you would agree that calling someone a prick and then to tell them to swallow a bottle of aspirin tablets is not really appropriate? So would you agree that telling my good friend to take some aspirins and calling him dyslexic etc etc is appropriate? As I said to Oldie, that wasn’t appropriate either in my opinion (which doesn’t really count as it’s how GHB took it that matters)…. |
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Post by oldie on Sept 16, 2021 7:10:08 GMT
So would you agree that telling my good friend to take some aspirins and calling him dyslexic etc etc is appropriate? As I said to Oldie, that wasn’t appropriate either in my opinion (which doesn’t really count as it’s how GHB took it that matters)…. Yes of course, which goes back to my final question, why on earth do people get so irate and upset about posts on a football forum? I genuinely do not understand it. |
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Post by scdave on Sept 16, 2021 7:10:39 GMT
I often come on here to find out what is going on season tickets etc.
Unless someone who knows Tom G gets a personal reply and spreads the word, the everyday fan is often left in the dark.
I have had to bite my tongue when I read stuff about the SC. Personally I am proud of what was achieved during my 15+ years on the committee.( I have not been on the committee for about 6 years now so don't know the current situation though).
Reading some of the absolute guesswork that has appeared on here about the SC post Mem, could not be farther from the truth. The ragass rovers thread didn't come close.
I often thought I should write a book, but genuinely, I don't think many people would believe what happened. It wouldn't appear in a auto biography, more a work of fiction!
I have definitely seen we are losing the family club and Twerton spirit feel. Maybe I am getting older and the world is changing, but in adversity is generally when Rovers (and the fans) are at their best.
UTG
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Post by oldie on Sept 16, 2021 7:16:06 GMT
I often come on here to find out what is going on season tickets etc. Unless someone who knows Tom G gets a personal reply and spreads the word, the everyday fan is often left in the dark. I have had to bite my tongue when I read stuff about the SC. Personally I am proud of what was achieved during my 15+ years on the committee.( I have not been on the committee for about 6 years now so don't know the current situation though). Reading some of the absolute guesswork that has appeared on here about the SC post Mem, could not be farther from the truth. The ragass rovers thread didn't come close. I often thought I should write a book, but genuinely, I don't think many people would believe what happened. It wouldn't appear in a auto biography, more a work of fiction! I have definitely seen we are losing the family club and Twerton spirit feel. Maybe I am getting older and the world is changing, but in adversity is generally when Rovers (and the fans) are at their best. UTG This is a different topic. I have to say though that my brief interactions with the SC Committee 2002-2004, left me with an entirely negative view. But that was a long time ago... absolutely no idea what goes on now. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 7:20:23 GMT
So would you agree that telling my good friend to take some aspirins and calling him dyslexic etc etc is appropriate? I was responding directly, suggesting taking an Aspirin, as in one, would make him feel better. Certainly not suggesting he should harm himself. Btw, that he is your good friend is hardly relevant. Plus, out of the blue, he decided to call me a prick on Saturday, during a series of interactions during the game, when a bit of humour and P?!s taking was injected to lighten another turgid performance by the team. I really don't understand the anger that erupts over all this. I didn't feel any anger when he jumped off a topic and called me a prick, I laughed. I didn't get angry when he, childlike with a heavy dose of petulance, told me to swallow the whole bottle (of aspirin). I laughed, wondered (genuinely) how old he was. I wished the mods had not deleted his post, so it would remain for all to see, to judge the character. I certainly never complained, they did this once before when they locked a thread when he chose, troll like, to read all my posts on a topic during a defined period and listed the adjectives I had used. I thought it strange behaviour then, but I never complained. So it appears that your good friend has deleted his account because the mods saw fit to moderate his contribution (s), not because of anything I said. Which is all a bit strange for a fully mature adult. On calling him dyslexic. I don't recall directing that at him personally, but if you quote me where I did so the context can be seen, and if it was OTT and inappropriate then I will of course respond. But, even then (if I was out of order) why get upset about it? Unless he is, then of course it is entirely wrong to raise that disability (I use the term guardedly) in conversation. But all in all, it's all a bit daft isn't it? No need for your long winded explanation. I would suggest, "all a bit strange for a mature adult", applies to yourself. As for looking back for things you have said, I would suggest you do that also. No need for anymore of your explanations of your innocence as far as I am concerned and for many more on here no doubt. |
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