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Post by Gassy on Mar 2, 2022 8:45:55 GMT
I'm pretty sure the Tories are not the only party who have accepted donations from people linked to Russia. Its discrimination to tarnish every Russian as having links to Putin and being corrupt. It's like hearing an irish accent and assuming they are a terrorist and must have links to the IRA. Based on that, is it then fair to sanction them? How is it fair to sanction Russians for being Russian, but it’s discriminatory to assume that Russians who invested huge sums of money into the Tory party, are associated with Russian politics? |
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Post by francegas on Mar 2, 2022 8:59:52 GMT
I'm pretty sure the Tories are not the only party who have accepted donations from people linked to Russia. Its discrimination to tarnish every Russian as having links to Putin and being corrupt. It's like hearing an irish accent and assuming they are a terrorist and must have links to the IRA. Based on that, is it then fair to sanction them? How is it fair to sanction Russians for being Russian, but it’s discriminatory to assume that Russians who invested huge sums of money into the Tory party, are associated with Russian politics? Because at a time like this sanctions are taken against the country which unfortunately will have a knock on effect from your road sweeper to brain surgeon. You can't pick and choose. So you believe in guilty by association. |
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Post by Gassy on Mar 2, 2022 9:15:21 GMT
Based on that, is it then fair to sanction them? How is it fair to sanction Russians for being Russian, but it’s discriminatory to assume that Russians who invested huge sums of money into the Tory party, are associated with Russian politics? Because at a time like this sanctions are taken against the country which unfortunately will have a knock on effect from your road sweeper to brain surgeon. You can't pick and choose. So you believe in guilty by association. Oh I agree! But at a time like this where Russia has been proven to invest and interfere with western politics, it’s not a fair assumption that Russians who invest in politics, have ties to Russian politics? Not sure the logic of discrimination checks out there FG |
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Post by francegas on Mar 2, 2022 9:16:45 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Mar 2, 2022 9:30:14 GMT
I'm pretty sure the Tories are not the only party who have accepted donations from people linked to Russia. Its discrimination to tarnish every Russian as having links to Putin and being corrupt. It's like hearing an irish accent and assuming they are a terrorist and must have links to the IRA. Stick up a list for all the opposition MPs who’ve taken Russian money . It’ll be nothing like the scale of Tory MPs as you well know. Why ? Because the Russians want influence and that comes with power…. A Tory gov . Keep up old chap 🙄 |
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Post by francegas on Mar 2, 2022 9:46:28 GMT
I'm pretty sure the Tories are not the only party who have accepted donations from people linked to Russia. Its discrimination to tarnish every Russian as having links to Putin and being corrupt. It's like hearing an irish accent and assuming they are a terrorist and must have links to the IRA. Stick up a list for all the opposition MPs who’ve taken Russian money . It’ll be nothing like the scale of Tory MPs as you well know. Why ? Because the Russians want influence and that comes with power…. A Tory gov . Keep up old chap 🙄 So it's wrong for the Tories to accept monies linked to Russia but perfectly OK for Labour. Doesn't matter what the scale is it's still hypocrisy. Then again Labour have a history of that. Wonder if Gordon Brown will return the money he took for a 4hr speech. Oooo corruption within the labour part who would believe it !! www.spectator.co.uk/article/gordon-brown-s-russian-riches |
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Post by yattongas on Mar 2, 2022 10:20:03 GMT
Stick up a list for all the opposition MPs who’ve taken Russian money . It’ll be nothing like the scale of Tory MPs as you well know. Why ? Because the Russians want influence and that comes with power…. A Tory gov . Keep up old chap 🙄 So it's wrong for the Tories to accept monies linked to Russia but perfectly OK for Labour. Doesn't matter what the scale is it's still hypocrisy. Then again Labour have a history of that. Wonder if Gordon Brown will return the money he took for a 4hr speech. Oooo corruption within the labour part who would believe it !! www.spectator.co.uk/article/gordon-brown-s-russian-richesOooh look 👀 francegas resorts to whataboutery again 🙄 |
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Post by francegas on Mar 2, 2022 13:02:19 GMT
So it's wrong for the Tories to accept monies linked to Russia but perfectly OK for Labour. Doesn't matter what the scale is it's still hypocrisy. Then again Labour have a history of that. Wonder if Gordon Brown will return the money he took for a 4hr speech. Oooo corruption within the labour part who would believe it !! www.spectator.co.uk/article/gordon-brown-s-russian-richesOooh look 👀 francegas resorts to whataboutery again 🙄 Nothing to do with Whataboutery what's good for one is surely good for the other. But typical Labour criticise what the tories do but brush under the carpet their same actions and just claim Whataboutery!! Do you believe that the Tories should return funds from Russian linked donations? If your answer is yes do you then believe Labour should follow suit and do the same. Simple question. |
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Post by yattongas on Mar 2, 2022 13:22:12 GMT
Oooh look 👀 francegas resorts to whataboutery again 🙄 Nothing to do with Whataboutery what's good for one is surely good for the other. But typical Labour criticise what the tories do but brush under the carpet their same actions and just claim Whataboutery!! Do you believe that the Tories should return funds from Russian linked donations? If your answer is yes do you then believe Labour should follow suit and do the same. Simple question. Yep 👍 |
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Post by oldie on Mar 2, 2022 13:39:22 GMT
Nothing to do with Whataboutery what's good for one is surely good for the other. But typical Labour criticise what the tories do but brush under the carpet their same actions and just claim Whataboutery!! Do you believe that the Tories should return funds from Russian linked donations? If your answer is yes do you then believe Labour should follow suit and do the same. Simple question. Yep đź‘Ť Seconded |
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Post by yattongas on Mar 2, 2022 13:49:47 GMT
Margaret Hodge just said that ÂŁ3.6 million of Russian money has gone into the Tory party.
Anyone for tennis 🎾?
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 2, 2022 14:34:11 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Mar 2, 2022 15:17:27 GMT
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 2, 2022 18:52:53 GMT
Roman Abramovich confirms he is looking to sell Chelsea.
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Post by yattongas on Mar 2, 2022 18:58:58 GMT
Roman Abramovich confirms he is looking to sell Chelsea. Great ain’t it ? Allowed to sell his football club and London mansion before it’s sanctioned ! 🙄 |
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Post by Gastafari on Mar 2, 2022 19:00:37 GMT
Roman Abramovich confirms he is looking to sell Chelsea. Been inevitable for the last week. He will set up a charitable foundation where all net proceeds from the sale will be donated for the benefit of all victims of the war in Ukraine. This includes providing critical funds towards the urgent and immediate needs of victims, as well as supporting the long-term work of recovery. Hopefully this will put to bed all the nonsense spouted about him lately! |
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 2, 2022 19:15:17 GMT
Roman Abramovich confirms he is looking to sell Chelsea. Been inevitable for the last week. He will set up a charitable foundation where all net proceeds from the sale will be donated for the benefit of all victims of the war in Ukraine. This includes providing critical funds towards the urgent and immediate needs of victims, as well as supporting the long-term work of recovery. Hopefully this will put to bed all the nonsense spouted about him lately! Why? He has still not condemned what his mate Putin has done and no doubt Russians as well as possibly Ukranians will benefit from this charitable trust. Whatever, it will be a drop in the ocean as to what will be required to rebuild what was known as Ukraine. Perhaps now somebody at Chelsea will have the balls to condemn what has happened. |
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Post by yattongas on Mar 2, 2022 19:21:05 GMT
Roman Abramovich confirms he is looking to sell Chelsea. Been inevitable for the last week. He will set up a charitable foundation where all net proceeds from the sale will be donated for the benefit of all victims of the war in Ukraine. This includes providing critical funds towards the urgent and immediate needs of victims, as well as supporting the long-term work of recovery. Hopefully this will put to bed all the nonsense spouted about him lately! My god do you have an awful take on every subject? First Trump now one of Putin’s Oligarchs. 🙄 |
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Post by Gastafari on Mar 2, 2022 19:21:35 GMT
Been inevitable for the last week. He will set up a charitable foundation where all net proceeds from the sale will be donated for the benefit of all victims of the war in Ukraine. This includes providing critical funds towards the urgent and immediate needs of victims, as well as supporting the long-term work of recovery. Hopefully this will put to bed all the nonsense spouted about him lately! Why? He has still not condemned what his mate Putin has done and no doubt Russians as well as possibly Ukranians will benefit from this charitable trust. Whatever, it will be a drop in the ocean as to what will be required to rebuild what was known as Ukraine. Perhaps now somebody at Chelsea will have the balls to condemn what has happened. What difference does it make? People keep forgetting that Abramovich is from Ukranian descent, he's also Jewish just like the Ukranian president. Just because Abramovich may have had past associations with Putin, doesn't mean he's his mate. Unless of course you want to make everybody guilty by association from now on? People also seem to forget the poisonings in Salisbury, or the many journalists that have been killed too, as I've said previously maybe Abramovich just wants to stay alive! |
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Post by Gastafari on Mar 2, 2022 19:23:06 GMT
Been inevitable for the last week. He will set up a charitable foundation where all net proceeds from the sale will be donated for the benefit of all victims of the war in Ukraine. This includes providing critical funds towards the urgent and immediate needs of victims, as well as supporting the long-term work of recovery. Hopefully this will put to bed all the nonsense spouted about him lately! My god do you have an awful take on every subject? First Trump now one of Putin’s Oligarchs. 🙄 What are you doing for Ukraine Yatton? Instead of being the biggest pr*ck on Gaschat? |
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