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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 6, 2022 16:31:19 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Apr 6, 2022 18:20:31 GMT
The French need to have a word with themselves. 48% might vote for the Putin apologist Le Pen 🙄
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 6, 2022 18:35:41 GMT
The French need to have a word with themselves. 48% might vote for the Putin apologist Le Pen 🙄 48/52? Where have I seen that before? 😳 |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 6, 2022 21:55:31 GMT
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Post by aghast on Apr 6, 2022 22:15:04 GMT
Quite a turnaround if this map is anywhere near accurate. Sorry if anyone else has mentioned this before because I haven't read the whole thread, but I've thought that this whole war might be a means to an end. Namely control of Eastern Ukraine and the sizeable Russian-sympathising population there, and more importantly a direct Russian territorial link to Crimea. The war might be an tactic to 'withdraw' and settle for much less than control of the whole country, which perhaps Putin never really wanted anyway. Just the bits he needed. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 6, 2022 22:37:28 GMT
Quite a turnaround if this map is anywhere near accurate. Sorry if anyone else has mentioned this before because I haven't read the whole thread, but I've thought that this whole war might be a means to an end. Namely control of Eastern Ukraine and the sizeable Russian-sympathising population there, and more importantly a direct Russian territorial link to Crimea. The war might be an tactic to 'withdraw' and settle for much less than control of the whole country, which perhaps Putin never really wanted anyway. Just the bits he needed. That was my initial thought before this started, however the way the assault went in it was pretty clear they were going for a decapitation of the government with the view to installing a puppet regime. I've lost the link but one of the major analysts (forget if it was RUSI, IISS or another) had detailed their thoughts based on leaked plans back in January, it had Russia taking the east and the whole coast, leaving a very much reduced and landlocked Ukraine. I suspect the way events have transpired have caused a significant rethink with Plan B (more accurately Plan D or even more) what you and I suggested, that is a corridor through to Crimea. There is a major Russian national day coming up on 9th May, it wouldn't surprise me to see that as a deadline to declare victory, even just in domestic PR terms. Maybe even as soon as Mariupol falls. It seems that they are pulling forces from the far east and the Caucuses, recruiting Syrian and African mercenaries, recalling the Wagner Group and fast tracking officer cadets to replace losses. |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 7, 2022 13:59:53 GMT
Seen this now from a few different sources …..
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Post by yattongas on Apr 7, 2022 21:47:45 GMT
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Post by baggins on Apr 12, 2022 12:43:04 GMT
Maybe I heard it wrong during a Coffee this morning but Russia threatening Chemical warfare?
We can't let that happen surely.
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Post by trevorgas on Apr 12, 2022 13:22:44 GMT
Maybe I heard it wrong during a Coffee this morning but Russia threatening Chemical warfare? We can't let that happen surely. Investigation into possible use in Mauripol. |
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Post by baggins on Apr 12, 2022 15:21:45 GMT
Maybe I heard it wrong during a Coffee this morning but Russia threatening Chemical warfare? We can't let that happen surely. Investigation into possible use in Mauripol. That's got to be worthy of a huge response surely? |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 12, 2022 15:32:49 GMT
Investigation into possible use in Mauripol. That's got to be worthy of a huge response surely? It is but we ( nato etc) won’t do anything . Our red lines are not really our red lines. |
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Post by baggins on Apr 12, 2022 15:39:33 GMT
That's got to be worthy of a huge response surely? It is but we ( nato etc) won’t do anything . Our red lines are not really our red lines. If he's using chemical weapons then sorry, but NATO needs to flatten Russia. Send everything in, launch everything and destroy it. |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 12, 2022 15:49:59 GMT
It is but we ( nato etc) won’t do anything . Our red lines are not really our red lines. If he's using chemical weapons then sorry, but NATO needs to flatten Russia. Send everything in, launch everything and destroy it. Won’t happen . |
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 12, 2022 16:00:25 GMT
It is but we ( nato etc) won’t do anything . Our red lines are not really our red lines. If he's using chemical weapons then sorry, but NATO needs to flatten Russia. Send everything in, launch everything and destroy it. I understand your frustration, I really do, but it's not going to happen. Not a Nato member, We blinked over Syria when it was just us, the US and France, let alone convincing all members to take part, We don't have the numbers or command and control ability unless the US takes part. Russia has thousands of nuclear weapons. However, if he crosses into Poland or the Baltics then all bets are off. That's the red line. |
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Post by francegas on Apr 12, 2022 17:34:41 GMT
It is but we ( nato etc) won’t do anything . Our red lines are not really our red lines. If he's using chemical weapons then sorry, but NATO needs to flatten Russia. Send everything in, launch everything and destroy it. You can't say that Bags. I was ridiculed when I suggested such a thing. |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 12, 2022 17:59:04 GMT
If he's using chemical weapons then sorry, but NATO needs to flatten Russia. Send everything in, launch everything and destroy it. You can't say that Bags. I was ridiculed when I suggested such a thing. But you were joking , at least that’s what you said. Also that was before he used (allegedly) chemical weapons . |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 12, 2022 19:08:33 GMT
It is but we ( nato etc) won’t do anything . Our red lines are not really our red lines. If he's using chemical weapons then sorry, but NATO needs to flatten Russia. Send everything in, launch everything and destroy it. We don't need to flatten Russia just push them back over the Ukrainian border, I can't honestly see it would take that much effort as the Russian military is so tin pot. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 12, 2022 19:19:52 GMT
Nice to see our intelligence services are causing concern, Russia getting its excuses in early I see. Wonder what'll be found.
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Post by trevorgas on Apr 12, 2022 19:24:01 GMT
Investigation into possible use in Mauripol. That's got to be worthy of a huge response surely? Has to be proven first,then we will wring our hands, prevaricate and equivocate!! |
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