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Post by Russgas on Jun 9, 2014 20:23:08 GMT
Bloody hell that miserable git Oldie is here as well . Here you go Oldie, You can use this pic for your Avatar.  ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Post by Hugo Admin on Jun 9, 2014 20:39:52 GMT
I don't believe it
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Post by dazza on Jun 9, 2014 20:49:18 GMT
I wonder how old oldie is?
In my head he's about 95
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2014 20:55:42 GMT
Look, I may not agree with some of the posts right across this forum from one, some or all posters but they deserve the right to voice their opinion without ridicule.
Speak easy Gasheads.
Whatever your view.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2014 21:05:08 GMT
Yeh come on Russgas,you could at least post a photo of ol' victor where he doesn't look so happy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2014 21:47:32 GMT
Look, I may not agree with some of the posts right across this forum from one, some or all posters but they deserve the right to voice their opinion without ridicule. Speak easy Gasheads. Whatever your view. Its standard fare Hugo It does make me laugh, an inability to debate a point ends up with threatened censorship and then personal insults. Ah well, Chat amongst yourselves, |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2014 22:42:52 GMT
It makes you laugh? Rather ironic as you seem to have undergone a sense of humour bypass if you regard a bit of gentle ribbing,started by yattongas who is one of your own anyway,as an insult.
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Post by Big Dave on Jun 9, 2014 23:51:24 GMT
I think the responses here are defensive and missing the point. The question of the absolute number of forums is hardly relevant in normal circumstances.
But, in this time of the club being at its lowest ebb, at a time when there has been wholesale criticism of the BoD (although the degree varies) this was an opportunity for the fans to present their case in a united front. Here the issue of forums comes into play as those that would resist change and seek to divert criticism as they will, as they always have done, claim that the majority of fans do not agree or support any proposition put forward.
To the responses...
You miss the point entirely I am afraid
I've been trying to not reply to this for hours now, but I just can't stop myself any more...what point am I missing? Without wishing to put words into your mouth, it must be that the BoD will only listen to a united fanbase? Well, the OF had 10,000 members, which is 4000 more than the average home attendance. They shut it down and dismissed it out-of-hand, either not knowing or not caring about how many Bristol Rovers fans used it daily, weekly or monthly, from those who are 5 minutes down the road to those who are on the other side of the world...and that matters to me as I hope soon to leave my home 20 minutes from my beloved Rovers and be following them from Australia instead.... As far as I can tell, your 'proposition' is that the fans speak as one. This is 2014 though, and the fans have many, many avenues to speak through. The number of forums is insignificant....add in Facebook, Twitter, and the old-fashioned ones like the local pubs and even different areas of the ground and you have tens (or probably hundreds) of groups of fans who have a different opinion on what is wrong with the club. For example, a bloke 5 yards to the right of me always blames the linesman in front of us when we lose/are caught offside/the opposition steal a few yards on a throw-in, and congratulates him when we're leading/catch them offside/one of our players trips himself up and yet we win a free-kick...do I agree with him? No, he's an idiot that knows nothing about the game of football. Do I respect his view, yes, because he pays his money to watch his team, has probably done so for longer than me, and also is a fellow Rovers fan. Back to my original question. What point have I missed? One forum, two forums, ten forums...if it's a good or a bad idea from a fan, you can post it on one or ten forums and the BoD and/or management team will agree or ignore regardless...if it's a good or bad idea from the BoD and/or management team, one or ten forums can praise or slate it and it won't matter as it will still have happened...so what point did I miss? |
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Post by Hugo Admin on Jun 10, 2014 0:07:06 GMT
You didn't miss the point mate. You nailed it.
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Post by RD on Jun 10, 2014 5:57:21 GMT
Look, I may not agree with some of the posts right across this forum from one, some or all posters but they deserve the right to voice their opinion without ridicule. Speak easy Gasheads. Whatever your view. Its standard fare Hugo It does make me laugh, an inability to debate a point ends up with threatened censorship and then personal insults. Ah well, Chat amongst yourselves, What debate though? All I can see is that some users from the IF have joined this forum with the sole intention of having a pop about us not all being "under one roof". As I say, the IF had the perfect opportunity to do so when it decided their old forum as a platform was naff and that they needed to move to a new platform. But rather than move here, they set up a new forum which was almost identical to this one! There's nothing that different about this forum so there was no real reason it couldn't have happened; especially as nothing was migrated from the old IF - it was a brand new board, under a new domain name where users had to re-sign up. That's not to say that I think the IF should have done so as frankly I couldn't possibly care less. But for all those bleating on about having just the one forum - the opportunity WAS there and it wasn't taken - ergo there is no argument to be had. |
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Post by blackthorngas on Jun 10, 2014 6:09:41 GMT
Please can we stop this thread now. It's getting boring. It's obvious that certain posters are determined to keep going over the same points again and again.It's like a competition to see who can get the last word. At the end of the day,if you have a problem with this forum go to one that can accommodate your needs.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2014 6:35:03 GMT
Please can we stop this thread now. It's getting boring. It's obvious that certain posters are determined to keep going over the same points again and again.It's like a competition to see who can get the last word. At the end of the day,if you have a problem with this forum go to one that can accommodate your needs. Correct, The point has been made.. |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jun 10, 2014 10:41:46 GMT
If you want to post on Gaschat, go ahead.
If you want to post on gasheads.org, go ahead.
If you want to post on both, go ahead.
Where's the issue?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2014 11:52:42 GMT
If you want to post on Gaschat, go ahead. If you want to post on gasheads.org, go ahead. If you want to post on both, go ahead. Where's the issue? That was never the issue. There was a question on how best fans get their views listened to and the relationship to that ambition with multiple forums |
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Post by Big Dave on Jun 10, 2014 12:05:11 GMT
If you want to post on Gaschat, go ahead. If you want to post on gasheads.org, go ahead. If you want to post on both, go ahead. Where's the issue? That was never the issue. There was a question on how best fans get their views listened to and the relationship to that ambition with multiple forums Very confused now...what is your actual point? The board (allegedly read but) don't pay attention to any or all fan's views on any or all forums...how do you suggest we get them to listen? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2014 12:08:16 GMT
Well Big Dave answered that.
They didn't listen to dissent on the OS hence the IF.
They didn't listen to 10000 largly pro board fans on the OS.
They don't care about us.
I hope they listen to the new fans group being run tonight.
It is a debate worth having but its essentially a non issue because no one is listening!!
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Post by Big Dave on Jun 10, 2014 12:21:02 GMT
It is a debate worth having but its essentially a non issue because no one is listening!! Pardon? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2014 12:32:32 GMT
I think its worth talking about the merits or othewise of a united forum.
My personal view is that it would make no difference.
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Post by RD on Jun 10, 2014 12:39:49 GMT
I think its worth talking about the merits or othewise of a united forum. My personal view is that it would make no difference. Agreed, I don't see it making any difference whatsoever. The board ignored 10,000 of us on the OF and 600+ on the IF, so will 10,600 of us in one place make any difference? Of course not. What seperate forums do offer however are a different "vibe" - which allows people the choice between finding somewhere that suits them best. Personally I think this can only be a good thing. If however the argument is that we should have one central repository for ideas then that might not be such a bad idea; but that doesn't need to be a generalised forum (like this and the IF). Instead it just needs to be a central site where users can post about improving Bristol Rovers and that alone. If that's the argument then I'm all for that. However, Gaschat and the IF/gasheads.org would still need to exist so that others can talk about other Rovers related news. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2014 12:59:24 GMT
I think its worth talking about the merits or othewise of a united forum. My personal view is that it would make no difference. Agreed, I don't see it making any difference whatsoever. The board ignored 10,000 of us on the OF and 600+ on the IF, so will 10,600 of us in one place make any difference? Of course not. What seperate forums do offer however are a different "vibe" - which allows people the choice between finding somewhere that suits them best. Personally I think this can only be a good thing. If however the argument is that we should have one central repository for ideas then that might not be such a bad idea; but that doesn't need to be a generalised forum (like this and the IF). Instead it just needs to be a central site where users can post about improving Bristol Rovers and that alone. If that's the argument then I'm all for that. However, Gaschat and the IF/gasheads.org would still need to exist so that others can talk about other Rovers related news. Good We got there in the end. I agree with Hugo almost entirely, I also agree that it may well make no difference at all, but what I do believe is it has never been tried. The board have always hidden behind the façade of the SC as the only "official" supporters voice, then justified their position when citing the differences in opinion between the old OF and the AF/IF. On the latter I think it was Bradshaw who coined the phrase "50 Internet Warriors" I agree with Rovers Drive about each to their own in terms of "Vibe", and his last paragraph sums up the need well, in my opinion.
These are tough times and more of the same will not do, especially as I believe there is a strong possibility that Sainsbury's have invoked an opt out clause on buying the mem. If that becomes fact the new stadium is dead, we are £5M in debt and playing in the conference.....if so it will only be us fans that can keep this club afloat.
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