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Post by Big Dave on Jun 10, 2014 13:33:36 GMT
Agreed, I don't see it making any difference whatsoever. The board ignored 10,000 of us on the OF and 600+ on the IF, so will 10,600 of us in one place make any difference? Of course not. What seperate forums do offer however are a different "vibe" - which allows people the choice between finding somewhere that suits them best. Personally I think this can only be a good thing. If however the argument is that we should have one central repository for ideas then that might not be such a bad idea; but that doesn't need to be a generalised forum (like this and the IF). Instead it just needs to be a central site where users can post about improving Bristol Rovers and that alone. If that's the argument then I'm all for that. However, Gaschat and the IF/gasheads.org would still need to exist so that others can talk about other Rovers related news. Good We got there in the end. I agree with Hugo almost entirely, I also agree that it may well make no difference at all, but what I do believe is it has never been tried. The board have always hidden behind the façade of the SC as the only "official" supporters voice, then justified their position when citing the differences in opinion between the old OF and the AF/IF. On the latter I think it was Bradshaw who coined the phrase "50 Internet Warriors" I agree with Rovers Drive about each to their own in terms of "Vibe", and his last paragraph sums up the need well, in my opinion.
These are tough times and more of the same will not do, especially as I believe there is a strong possibility that Sainsbury's have invoked an opt out clause on buying the mem. If that becomes fact the new stadium is dead, we are £5M in debt and playing in the conference.....if so it will only be us fans that can keep this club afloat.
Where did we get to? All the recent evidence suggests that if there was one 'united Rovers forum' then it would simply mean it was easier for the board to read and then ignore the views that were posted on it...? I agree more of the same will not do, but I really hope you turn your attention towards the club and it's shortcomings. The biggest problem with multiple forums is that it means us idiots who still support and finance the club at home games have more places to vent our frustration. The least of the problems is that four-five groups of 30-50 people on 4-5 different forums have noticed the same problem either on or off the pitch... [[Citation required]] on the Sainsbury's opt-out clause, and yes the fans are the biggest asset the club has...so why try and constrain/constrict them/us? |
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Post by lincsblue on Jun 10, 2014 22:27:20 GMT
Hey folks, I just found you all via a mention in a post on the independent forum. I agree with the OP by the way - it's a shame to have two such similar boards, but it is how it is. Great to see so many of the OF on here. Can't wait for the World Cup to come along and hope it's going to mend my broken football heart! - or at least take my mind off the Gas for a month. I'm about to move to Leeds, by the way. Where's going to be local in the Conference? Hyde United are probably going to be the closest.
Grimsby and Lincoln will be worth the road trip.....I'm 90 minutes from Leeds, so you should make Grimsby in 75 minutes
Hyde were demoted so Halifax will be closest
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jun 11, 2014 9:33:16 GMT
Agreed, I don't see it making any difference whatsoever. The board ignored 10,000 of us on the OF and 600+ on the IF, so will 10,600 of us in one place make any difference? Of course not. What seperate forums do offer however are a different "vibe" - which allows people the choice between finding somewhere that suits them best. Personally I think this can only be a good thing. If however the argument is that we should have one central repository for ideas then that might not be such a bad idea; but that doesn't need to be a generalised forum (like this and the IF). Instead it just needs to be a central site where users can post about improving Bristol Rovers and that alone. If that's the argument then I'm all for that. However, Gaschat and the IF/gasheads.org would still need to exist so that others can talk about other Rovers related news. Good We got there in the end. I agree with Hugo almost entirely, I also agree that it may well make no difference at all, but what I do believe is it has never been tried. The board have always hidden behind the façade of the SC as the only "official" supporters voice, then justified their position when citing the differences in opinion between the old OF and the AF/IF. On the latter I think it was Bradshaw who coined the phrase "50 Internet Warriors" I agree with Rovers Drive about each to their own in terms of "Vibe", and his last paragraph sums up the need well, in my opinion.
These are tough times and more of the same will not do, especially as I believe there is a strong possibility that Sainsbury's have invoked an opt out clause on buying the mem. If that becomes fact the new stadium is dead, we are £5M in debt and playing in the conference.....if so it will only be us fans that can keep this club afloat.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 11:21:36 GMT
Good We got there in the end. I agree with Hugo almost entirely, I also agree that it may well make no difference at all, but what I do believe is it has never been tried. The board have always hidden behind the façade of the SC as the only "official" supporters voice, then justified their position when citing the differences in opinion between the old OF and the AF/IF. On the latter I think it was Bradshaw who coined the phrase "50 Internet Warriors" I agree with Rovers Drive about each to their own in terms of "Vibe", and his last paragraph sums up the need well, in my opinion.
These are tough times and more of the same will not do, especially as I believe there is a strong possibility that Sainsbury's have invoked an opt out clause on buying the mem. If that becomes fact the new stadium is dead, we are £5M in debt and playing in the conference.....if so it will only be us fans that can keep this club afloat.
Any substance to your Sainsburys comment or just an assumption? There is always a possibility that I am wrong, but it wont be long before we find out |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jun 11, 2014 15:31:18 GMT
Any substance to your Sainsburys comment or just an assumption? There is always a possibility that I am wrong, but it wont be long before we find out That doesn't answer my question. Are you literally making it up or have you heard something? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 16:59:21 GMT
Any substance to your Sainsburys comment or just an assumption? There is always a possibility that I am wrong, but it wont be long before we find out If sainsburys are using an opt out clause,what reason would there be for not going public?They wouldn't give two shits about any grief coming our way would they? |
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Post by Russgas on Jun 11, 2014 16:59:48 GMT
There is always a possibility that I am wrong, but it wont be long before we find out That doesn't answer my question. Are you literally making it up or have you heard something? I can't see how Sainsbury's Can have an opt out clause. They have signed a legally binding contract with BRFC. If they want to pull out they would have to offer us some serious compensation. Don't forget that planning permission has been granted on the mem for a supermarket to be built ,if Sainsburys were to pull out what is to stop Morrissons or Waitrose moving in and starting a bidding war .Would Sainsbury's let their rivals do this ?... .I think not. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 17:09:11 GMT
That doesn't answer my question. Are you literally making it up or have you heard something? I can't see how Sainsbury's Can have an opt out clause. They have signed a legally binding contract with BRFC. If they want to pull out they would have to offer us some serious compensation. Don't forget that planning permission has been granted on the mem for a supermarket to be built ,if Sainsburys were to pull out what is to stop Morrissons or Waitrose moving in and starting a bidding war .Would Sainsbury's let their rivals do this ?... .I think not. Russ Have you seen a copy of the clause in the contract that makes it legally binding? No? Anyway as I said I could be wrong, but I believe this to be true, at this point in time. Any doubts I have had dissipate with every day of abject silence or bland generalisations that omit from the club. Anyone remember the Cheltenham fiasco? Anyway its my opinion as of this moment, and I could of course be completely wrong.... |
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Post by aghast on Jun 11, 2014 20:24:44 GMT
As the OP on this thread, I thought I'd offer a few comments.
I didn't mean to stir up any trouble, annoy anyone or suggest that one forum was better than another. I just expressed a view, and let others comment on it. I'm not going to say anything else about how I feel about having two main forums, except to observe that the views on here and the IF suggest that many are happy at the moment to be where they are.
That's fine wth me. I just wanted to know what others thought, and now I know, from both forums.
Just like many others, I read both, and value both. To be honest I don't look much at the other two (not606? and another where toteend posts) because I can't keep up with all of them, so these two are fine.
Mind you, reading matchday threads is going to be a nightmare, especially when we score. Or if.
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Post by peterparker on Jun 12, 2014 7:07:57 GMT
I can't see how Sainsbury's Can have an opt out clause. They have signed a legally binding contract with BRFC. If they want to pull out they would have to offer us some serious compensation. Don't forget that planning permission has been granted on the mem for a supermarket to be built ,if Sainsburys were to pull out what is to stop Morrissons or Waitrose moving in and starting a bidding war .Would Sainsbury's let their rivals do this ?... .I think not. Russ Have you seen a copy of the clause in the contract that makes it legally binding? No? Anyway as I said I could be wrong, but I believe this to be true, at this point in time. Any doubts I have had dissipate with every day of abject silence or bland generalisations that omit from the club. Anyone remember the Cheltenham fiasco? Anyway its my opinion as of this moment, and I could of course be completely wrong.... It's not inconceivable that there is a pull out cause where Sainsburys pay us a fraction of what they would have paid for the whole site |
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